Engineering

@p1kef1sh (45681)
February 12, 2010 5:11pm CST
If you use the search facility on myLot and look up the word 'Engineer" you will discover many discussions placed by Engineers and would be engineers. Nearly all from India and her neighbouring nations. But hard as I try I struggled to find a single one from the west. If we don't produce people able to manufacture things then how will we every compete? Our friends on the East have stolen a march on us and we are already look slow and lumbering. The Dinosaurs didn't evolve. "Pop Idol/X Factor" don't make nations rich, manufacturing does. Are you an engineer? Do your children want to be engineers? Does it matter?
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Feb 10
My Dad's an engineer. I was never good enough with the math, and too lazy to really work at it. Dearra is the same way, Cary and Naomi are stronger at it. Maybe one of them will have an interest. And yes, it's a concern. The US has been behind other countries in math and science for a while now.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
12 Feb 10
My Dad is too. The UK is like the States. Each year more and more technical university departments are shut down and replaced by "Media Studies". We ought to be worrying.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Feb 10
yep
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@BarBaraPrz (47676)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
12 Feb 10
What about all those "domestic engineers" aka "mom"? Now I'm wondering how many people searched "engineer". I didn't. Honest.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
12 Feb 10
I knew that someone would mention that! But Mom's don't manufacture generally. Apart from babies of course. Did you sleep well? LOL.
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@BarBaraPrz (47676)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
12 Feb 10
Yes, I did this afternoon for my nap. This morning I woke myself up moaning...
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
12 Feb 10
Did you fall out of bed.....
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 10
hi pike yes in all the discussions from Indians I noticed so many were all engineers,here in the states its one humongous price for young people to go through engineering college so thats why a lot drop out and go into less expensive trades. My son was once into engineering and could not afford the cost of four years at the U. so turned to computer programming. but if we want to keep up as a country we need to get more young people into engineering. girls and boys both.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
13 Feb 10
I believe that areas like Engineering require a radical approach to funding Hatley. How about if they gave grants rather than loans. That would be a start.
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@edxcast (1168)
• Ecuador
13 Feb 10
Hello p1kef Im studying Industrial engineering, so count one more frome the west world. In my country the most popular major is business administration(and i must say most of the people who doesnt know what to study, study ba), though i think there still a good number of people studying engineering. I think this happen because engineering isnt an easy major, it requires more hard work than others that we could say are easier.
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
13 Feb 10
I am pleased to see that you are studying engineering. People will always take the easy option but that doesn't mean that the hard way isn't worth doing. Good luck with your studies.
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@quickstar (268)
• India
13 Feb 10
hi I am a electronics engineer from india. whatever you mentioned is correct.i know manufacturing is back bone of any country's economic development.but every field adds to complete prosperity of any country. western countries too have a huge requirement of engineers, but mostly is fulfilled by hiring engineers from east. one thing is sure neither engineers nor pop idols will do it alone.there has to be complete mix up all fields. everything has it's own importance.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
13 Feb 10
Everything does have its own importance. But when the economy spends more than it earns then we have a problem of gargantuan proportions. That's where the west is now and it's very scary.
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• India
13 Feb 10
you are a far sighter. one thing i don't like of western countries is their ease to give credits. in our country it is more of debit than of credit. you should also note one point , that is population. you can compare the population of india with any western country. more the population more is manpower
@ReginaT (11)
• United States
16 Jul 11
I just graduated with a degree in Renewable Energy Engineering, a very new field. I had an internship during my last year of school with my professor, who owns a company that does a lot of work with biomass to energy. I don't have children, so I can't answer that one!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
16 Jul 11
Congratulations on the award of your degree. My father is quite well known in the field of renewable energy/Intermediate Technology writing books on the subject 30 years ago. He also started the first MSc course in renewable energy. His Wiki entry is here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Dunn_(UK_Engineer) They have peat burning power stations in Ireland (and I am sure elsewhere) and on a small scale i have seen some intetesting things related to methane energy conversion. Especially in developing nations. We need engineers. I hope that you have a long and successful career.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
16 Jul 11
My father is the UK Engineer entry when you hit the link.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
20 Feb 10
There are many of them in the health industry as well, doctors, I mean. I had an Indian pen friend from when I was 13. He was a few years older and left school to attend university to become an engineer. We lost touch when I left Australia to go and live in Singapore. I would so like to catch up with him. This was over 40 years ago...can you imagine how many engineers and doctors India has produced since then?? It surprises me (and I don't understand) how a country so rich in brain talent can have such a high level of poverty and the homelessness, ill health and lack of education that goes along with poverty. My nephew is an engineer and works for Boral. I'm not sure what division he works in.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
20 Feb 10
I think that we will see changes in India over the next 20 years or so. They produce over 500,000 engineers a year (!!) although many then leave the subject and go into administration. But increased prosperity there has to bring about a social change.
@arkansos (545)
• India
13 Feb 10
Well, its true India produces a lot of Engineers. Around 500-600k Engineers graduate every year, but only 5-6k of these actually know something. Pick up ten random electronics engineers from random engineering colleges, and ask them to solder a 5k capacitor on a stripboard. Place the capacitor along with certain other components. Add in a cocktail of other components, like resistors, diodes, small relays. the results will be amazing. no more than 7 of them will correctly identify them, which is bad cuz Electronics Engineers grow up reading about these things. no more two of them will correctly solder them. Again its a prerequisite skill for all engineers. So what I am sain is that no more than 10% of India's Engineers learn anything useful. anything they can use to make stuff. So don't worry, your superiority is safe.
@p1kef1sh (45681)
13 Feb 10
There will always be a dumb quota in any business. But I struggle to believe that 90% of India's engineering graduates are useless.
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• India
13 Feb 10
Here you are seriously wrong dude. India has one of the best Engineers in the world and even the USA hires them in highly qualified jobs. I am not saying that the US does not produce engineers but you can't say that only 10% Engineers know something useful. As a matter of fact i am currently doing engineering and am from India so this comment actually hurt me a little.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
12 Feb 10
I don't know about the UK but the US has become a nation of consumers. We drove out manufacturing with sky-high taxes on businesses and in many states you have to be a union member to get a good job. We no longer make anything so there's no source of revenue except taxing the population. We all know what happened to the dinosaurs!
@p1kef1sh (45681)
13 Feb 10
Indeed we do know what happened to the dinosaurs. We now have more people pushing money around rather than earning fresh income for our countries. That is a recipe for disaster. We are seeing it already in the shape of the economic downturn that happened last year. But even when the economy was buoyant it was done on the back of loans and not investment.
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• United States
13 Feb 10
Many many many of my friends are engineers here in the States. I just feel like maybe they don't spend much time on mylot. :-) I know many who want to be engineers as well. I wouldn't get too worried yet. I have actually heard engineering is now one of the most popular things to study in Uni in the States these days.
• Philippines
16 Jul 11
Well, I guess because bulk of the erging industries in asia is within the scope of manufacturing. Mostly, the western forces delegate some of their manpower into the east and do manufacturing operations in the east also. I tried to do the search of discussions with the word "engineer". My results got discussions started around 3 years ago which is really ages. Most recent is 3 months old. Good to know that there are engineer in here too. I myself is an engineer and am very proud of my profession. Maybe the engineers in the other side of the world are too busy calculating stuff or are just earning solidly enough that they don't bother to to participate in myLot site.
• Philippines
16 Jul 11
Sorry! My bad! i used engineers instead of engineer in the search engine that's why I got a different result. Good thing I double checked. And yes I do see a lot of posts coming from engineers in India but I see some posts too from New York.