Child stabbed at school - How can this happen?

@RawBill1 (8531)
Gold Coast, Australia
February 15, 2010 1:25am CST
Today at a Catholic school an hour away from me in Brisbane, Australia, a 12 year old boy was stabbed in a fight with another boy. He later died in hospital. What is society coming to when this thing can happen in a schools grounds? I hear about things like this happening in the USA, but when it happens so close to home, it really hits home. The poor kid had only just started his first year at the school too. A Facebook group has already been set up in the boy's honour and already has 2000 members who have joined. Incredible! A lot of people are obviously touched by this horrible incident. What can we do to prevent these things from happening? I have kids that I send off to school each day and as this boy's parents would have expected, I expect to get my kids home alive each day. You never even think of anything happening like this until it does! Local newspaper report here: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/boy-dies-after-school-stabbing-20100215-o06b.html
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• United States
16 Feb 10
Yea this does hit home even here in the US when it happens it scares me. I am afraid that I will probably one day go to home schooling my kids because there is just too many kids who don't like other kids and cause problems. When I was in school there had not been shootings yet. Kids just beat the heck out of kids. I came home with bloody noses several times because kids didn't like me because of my last name. I mean come on why would you beat up someone because of their last name well it happens.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
16 Feb 10
LOL, lots of people in the USA think that kangaroos are in everyone's backyards here! You cannot really keep them as pets! You hardly ever see them here. I live on the outskirts of a city, so when I drive into the country around dusk or early morning as the sun is rising, I may see some by the side of the roads in fields or bush. You never see them in the middle of the day. We actually see more wallabies than kangaroos, they look the same but are smaller. The only kangaroos that we see if we do see any are Grey Kangaroos, the big red ones live more in the inland desert areas. I have never seen any of them in the wild. The food here is pretty similar to any other western culture. It is getting very Americanised with the junk food chain stores unfortunately. We are a very multi cultural society so there have been a lot of food influences from all over the world, nothing really unique to Australia. I did eat Kangaroo and Emu years ago when I was still a meat eater, but you do not see them on menus very regularly.
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@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
16 Feb 10
Thanks for sharing your story. Wow, that is pretty crazy getting beaten up just because of your surname! In my day, people just had fist fights too, I even had a couple. One was my fault, but the other was just one of my friends getting angry over nothing at all. Miscommunication or something. I can remember people bringing knives to school, but there were never any incidents or threats with them. I just think kids thought they were cool. Most of the trouble that I witnessed at school though was just mental bullying, which has also escalated in recent times here. Perhaps it is not any worse, but we are just more aware of these problems now. We have thought of home schooling our kids a few times. We have friends that do it and we also happen to live in an area which is the largest home schooling community in Australia. I do not think we are cut out for it, but if things start to look bad in the local schools, then we will do it. Luckily at the moment our kids are at a really good school that has a great reputation for it's students behaviour.
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• United States
16 Feb 10
Yeah our daughter is only in kindergarten as of right now so it isn't something that is needed right this second. But if things keep up and then I will probably makes some changes with either school or something. I notice you are from Australia so I have to ask do you see a lot of kangaroos? Do you have one as a pet? What is some of the different foods eaten over there?
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
16 Feb 10
It is a terrible shame and very scary for us parents. The schools in my area have very strict rules as to what the children can bring to school. There are even some schools that have metal detectors at the doors they walk through. They have to have clear back packs and in highschool they are not even allowed. There have been some pretty tragic incidents. It's nuts that it has come to this and people are at a lose as to what to do.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
16 Feb 10
Well..for my daughter I bought an oversized woman shoulder bag. Like a big purse. The boys, well, I'm not sure what they do. I know they can take backpacks to school but not to classes. They have to leave them in the locker. Last year they weren't allowed to have them at all. I guess the boys' parents had something to say about that. I would have.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
17 Feb 10
Yeah, that is just crazy as any attacks would more likely occur outside of the classroom anyway!
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
16 Feb 10
That is really sad that it has come to that over there. I can see it heading this way here too unfortunately. No back packs allowed in high school at all? How do they carry everything then? Thanks for your views Jen, you are right, it is nuts and it is just part of how I see all parts of society around the world going.
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
15 Feb 10
Its a very sad news. I would not dream that as a parent my son would en up that horrible way. My hear and mins is with the boy's parents. As a teacher this shocking news really strikes me as it deals with my place of work even if thre is great distance. It saddens me that a place to learn has become a murder scene.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
16 Feb 10
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I can imagine that as a teacher you would be affected by these types of incidents when you hear of them happening more often. I just hope for your sake that this type of thing does not happen at your school ever!
@cream97 (29086)
• United States
15 Feb 10
Hi, RawBill1. This is very sad news to hear about. I am a parent of an 8, 4 and a 2 year-old. I could never imagine going through something like this. It is very sad how violence is becoming so much stronger in schools. I was just talking to my cousin about this and I was saying that children are no longer safe in schools anymore... I told her that kids are supposed to be going to school to learn and they never come back home because they are either brutally attacked or killed. Only God can help us on this. It is so sad. When I hear bad news like this it makes me even more afraid for my kids. We don't know what is all out there for them. We can't protect them all of the time. And we love them so much. My heart goes out to the little boy's parents. I just wonder how could the other boy manage to get a knife into the school. Don't all schools supposed to have metal detectors??? Something needs to be done about this. Too many of our babies are dying over violence! All killings, need to stop in this world!
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
16 Feb 10
When I think back to my childhood growing up, I remember the freedom that I had to roam the streets of the town and get up to all sorts of innocent mischief. I wish that my kids could do that these days but they cannot. Not where I live now anyway as it is too populated. Perhaps in a small country town, this type of school yard innocence of my youth may still be found, but it would not be quite the same as when I was young. The stabbing happened out in the school grounds. Most schools here are surrounded by sporting fields and big open areas of garden and you can walk freely in amongst the school classrooms even when the school is closed. There is no way to stop things like this happening on school grounds with security and metal detectors and it would be ridiculously expensive to put them in on every classroom. As far as I am aware, there are no such things as metal detectors in schools here!
• India
16 Feb 10
This is really horrible. I think kids have become more exposed to violence in movies, televisions and media. Both school and parents have to take some measures in stopping such incidents.
• United States
15 Feb 10
That is just horrible. I am a teacher and just cannot imagine something like that happening. However, I have caught students with knives before. They are not intending to use them to do something bad. They just have them in their backpacks. I am afraid that schools are going to have to go to metal detectors or other security devices.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
15 Feb 10
Thanks for your comments, it is great to get some feedback here from a teacher. The students that you caught may not have been intending anything bad at the time,but if they continued to carry them and some argument happened later, would they have threatened another student with them then? Maybe not, but you cannot take these chances. Did you inform the parents of these children?
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
16 Feb 10
Yeah, just because they have never done anything wrong in the past does not mean that they will not offend in the future. All of the mass murderers and serial killers had to start somewhere and were once also innocent school children.
• United States
15 Feb 10
That is exactly what I was thinking. They were taken to the principal and they were given some sort of punishment. I do not think the first offense was that harsh. But yes, the parents were notified. And most of these students were good kids who would never hurt anyone. But you cannot allow special privileges just because they are "good kids."
@ersmommy1 (12588)
• United States
15 Feb 10
It is a terrible and sad thing. And yes, here in the US it happens all to often. I will have to look for the group on Facebook.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
15 Feb 10
It is sad that it happens in the USA. I have seen documentaries showing the security measures that are in place in some of them. Passing through those metal detectors cannot be a good thing for their learning experience as it must feel like visiting a jail for the day! Thanks for your comments. The Facebook group has been removed as it had been vandalised with all sorts of comments, but a new one has been set up now that has moderators. It has over 3800 members at this time already. The other one had over that amount too. This is amazing seeing as the boy was alive 24 hours ago!
@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
15 Feb 10
yeah its sad, and yes its sad it happen way too much here in the usa. but i think its start with the parnets and teaching them that things like this isnt the proper way in handling things at all. but its sad that a young person lost thier live as well the person who did it too. the kids these days are way too smart for thier own good, and they are so different when i was a kid, and even when my kids was younger as well.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
15 Feb 10
I know it does happen way too much in the USA and unfortunately Australia is following the USA in all of it's bad habits. Times have changed so much since I was a kid at school. Their innocence seems to disappear at a lot younger age now. The scary thing for me is that my kids are only a few years younger than the kids in this incident. A lot of the blame has to rest on the parents, not just the parents of the boy who did this, but all parents these days who are too busy to spend quality time teaching their kids how to be loving and caring people. Thanks for sharing.
@megamatt (14291)
• United States
15 Feb 10
Has society really fallen so far that I just shrug my shoulders and think, yeah, I can see something like this happening? Unfortunately, I think this is far from the case. There are just too many events in the news like this these days. This is a horrific incident and just one of the many that have happened. This is not the first time that something like this will happen. Nor will it be the last time. It is really difficult to prevent something like this. However, I will say this. People are looking for things to blame a lot more than looking for solution. It is very easy to blame television, movies, and video games, because that is the easy solution. However, I think that's completely wrong. There are countless people who are exposed to violence. Only a fraction of a percentage will do something like this. I am even a bit weary to blame the parents for this but they are partially responsible for the actions of their children in cases like this. I do not think there is no easy or simple solution. It could be a mental problem. It could be an anger problem. It could be poor parenting. It could be any number of things. I hope that situations like this become a thing of the past but I know better.
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
16 Feb 10
Unfortunately you are right when you say that this is not the last time that this will happen. I agree that we should not be pointing the blame at TV, video games and the like. They may have some input into it, as do the parents, but even they are being sucked into the trap. We need to look at the big picture of how the world is going and see that it is the big corporations and governments that are teaching society to be greedy and take, take, take all the time. Over generations of this happening globally, we have got it in our heads that if we want something, then we shall get it and this can result in violence. We see it with the USA invading other countries over their greed for oil, so of course this state of mind will rub off on young minds. You are right, there is no simple solution as these issues are the result of a couple of hundred years of civilisation moving in the wrong direction and it may take another hundred or two hundred years to turn it around. We need to start living more in tune with nature and that will right the world.