moving and economy

I don't see the economy getting any better but I'm glad I've found someone else who feels the same way we do. My husband has lou gehrig's disease and I had two heart attacks last May. We moved back to Oklahoma in my mama's house --she passed away last Jan. but it's in a town setting and we are thinking we need to be canning and putting up food and water and all kinds of things to get us by if things get worse. I think you and your husband have the same ideas we do and if you have kids I also think we'd doing them a favor as well. My son doesn't think things will get all that bad but he's young and I' m worried about him and his family. I have enough land that I inherited from my grandparents for several families to live. We might not live in style but we'd be alive. The generator is a good idea too. We just had to buy one cuz of the ice storm that hit us two weeks ago and didn't have power for six days. I'm out of work as well but I'm also 61 and have applied for Social Security Disability which they have turned me down once and I've appealed. I f it werent' for my husband's VA retirement we wouldn't have anything. I hope you stay in touch and we can share ideas on canning and basic survival. Thanks for replying and keep in touch.

I'm interested, what country do you live in?? That definition of life is good and shows the same thoughts we are planning. We have been spoiled over our life times with too much. YOu make me feel very luxurious in my way of life compared to your life style. It's sad to think that a farmer has no real value and yet they don't eat too much? Now I need to know where you are from. I hope you are not offended as I'm quite interested in your discussion. Still tho you have a computer do you not? Is that not a luxury? Do let me know.

You are from the Philippines. Do you live in the States? and, no, I do not feel awkward asking. I am interested in the ways people do live tho. We in America do quite nicley compared to others. What kind of work do you do to keep you out of trouble ! Glad you have computer too.

Oh I'm from the Philippines. I was just sharing a different view on the downturn of the economy, so I'm not insulted, and I also don't want you to feel awkward because of this. Yes having a computer is a luxury here. Our minimum daily wage is about $8 for * hours of work. And a lot of families here don't earn that much so if you don't have a stable job you're in for a lot of heartache. But our people are know for resilience so we find ways to cope. Our professionals try to work abroad and they sometimes get underemployed (I've heard of doctors mopping floors in hospitals elsewhere).

quita yup you sell both places get out on the land you might be more satisfied I would be. Am just glad Phil got a job for now even if it is with temp service that helps him and his mom when they move out of here!.

Bryan is a worry wort but I think he's right on this economy thing . I want a garden too and it would still be best for both of us for us to sell here and go over there and be out in the country and not crammed up like we are. Not so sure about unemployment but I can't find a job !

Unemployment is over 10 percent here in Idaho as well. I know I have not been able to find a job either, but I do look. I am in college so that has been helping me out a little. My husband and I own a home and with the bad economy it will be a while before I can start remodeling the house. I will start planting things this Spring. At least by planting things one can make money by selling vegetables and fruit.

KNowing how to plow is no big deal. Surely there is someone around to teach you the basic principles. A roto tiller is great. I'd talk to that brother in law and ask him to help you and then help himself as well. You could all work together and that is the idea here to keep us all in good health and be able to make it on our own. I do think the economy is going to plummet and we'd all best be ready and look for ways of surviving. Take care Kathy and do talk to that brother in law. quita 88

You don't know my brother-in-law like I do. I don't mean to be talking about him in a bad way all the time but he's always in such a hurry! He always says he doesn't have time, anyway. He's a business man and he has a lot of appointments to keep. I doubt he would take the time to help me or teach me how to garden. He doesn't have any patience whatsoever, either. I don't know if he knows anything about gardening, anyway. You would think he would because he was raised on a farm. He was glad to get away from farming because as I'm sure you know, it is hard work. I wouldn't mind the hard work, myself. He's pretty well known here in town and most people who know him would tell you how he is. Kathy.

I am sorry you are so burnt out. I understand cuz I am a nurse and know the feeling of wishing you could just back off for a little while and still you need to money. Always do what is best for you and hubby. Hang in there kiddo, things could get worse.

I am just trying to get through this semester then I will be able to take a break (I hope). I know my husband and I need the money so I may end up having to go back to school sooner than I plan. I wish you could take a break as well. I wish you the best.

It's a matter of planning and looking ahead. Whether the economy gets bad or not what do we have to lose??

I think we will do it and no we are not getting any younger! We do not intend to build a house tho. A mobile will do us. As to the eco-tourists :) I'll let ya know when we have veggies but it takes years for fruit. Good thought tho. thanks

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Thank you for caring. We are moving slowly but we have the plans and it might be next week that we get started on all this but we will. We can go to the land and start a garden and do some work and I'm hoping to get a small mobile there in a couple of weeks. Food is the main priority and we have made plans to do some freezing and canning. Thanks for your interest as the economy is in terrible shape and we all have take care of ourselves.

YOu have some really good ideas and thanks ! I have enough land but my husband has lou gehrigs disease and the best I can do is what I can do---- But right now kinda think this litttle patch will have to do for a garden. Thanks for the great ideas!