Should the tea party members become a political party?
@thegreatdebater (7316)
United States
February 20, 2010 9:28pm CST
I was listening to republicans talking about how much damage the tea party members could do in an election if they split up the votes of "like minded" candidates. Do those who support the tea parties really think that republicans are "like minded" in their politics? And, do you think that by forming a party it would actually hurt the movement, or actually change the country like they want?
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@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
21 Feb 10
Well the problem with that is....most tea party people are not a "party" people. They are fed up with the "parties".They want to support INDIVIDUALs They think will do a good job and STOP blindly supporting corrupt "parties".
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
21 Feb 10
I agree with you Lil, but the problem is that republicans feel that they can appease the movement with the people that caused this problem. One of the other issues is that most people don't do the research that we do to see how people voted, or if they actually are living up to what the movement represents. We all know that every politician is honest, and they never become corrupt in Washington. What the group needs are people that will keep this people under check, and that isn't easy.
@PANASSERY (20)
• India
21 Feb 10
I think teapartiers are not permanent political movement as little impact on the real
political fabric of the country.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
21 Feb 10
You know, I wish I knew what the tea partiers really DO stand for. I mean, in the beginning the emphasis seemed to be on taxes, like the original tea party. "Taxed Enough Already" was their slogan, right? I recently heard that the overwhelming majority of those involved with the tea party movement believed their taxes had gone up since President Obama took office although the truth is 95% of us got a tax CUT. I've also heard from the beginning that they were dissatisfied with Washington in general and supported neither party yet there were high-profile members of the GOP leadership speaking at all of their major rallies early on and most of the signs they carried were anti-Obama and anti-liberal. There have been many signs and pictures of the President as Hitler as well as calling him a socialist, fascist and communist. I'm NOT calling everyone or ANYONE involved with the movement racists but you must admit the crowds at the rallies have been almost exclusively white.
I know the "national convention" where Sister Sarah was the keynote speaker and then gave her pre-screened three question interview with notes on her hand has already been denounced by other tea partiers as not being representative of them, which is a relief since their other speakers included a blatant racist and a publisher with ties to the birthers and the truthers.
I love the idea of a truly grassroots movement of "average" Americans. I agree we need to really clean house in Washington as well as in our state capitals, counties, towns and cities. I think we NEED to get the big money out of politics and that means taking away the power lobbyists have over politicians and candidates. I don't know anyone locally who has attended any tea parties and I'm not even sure if there have been any in my area so other than the few of my friends here who have attended some in their area I know nothing other than what I see on the news or read in the newspapers or online.
To answer your questions, I don't know if the majority of those who support the tea parties think the Republicans are "like-minded" but I know the Republicans think they can "absorb" the tea partiers. It's hard to say who would be hurt and who would be helped if they became a political party. I think being involved in a movement like the tea partiers is fine but I think we also need to focus hard on campaign finance reform. A good start is to try to undo what the Supreme Court did with their recent ruling and then get to work on kicking the lobbyists out for good!
Annie
@sleepyredd (201)
• United States
24 Feb 10
I also am just beginning to read on the Tea Party. I think their ideas are good. Now they just need to follow up with them in a positive way to benefit this country and citizens as a whole. And I agree we need to do something about the lobbyist. And former politicians should not be allowed to lobby. They have gained to much power while in office and they will continue on their own agendas. Their pocketbooks. We have got to probably start within our own cities and start moving forward from there. Also I think that Congress itself needs to have term limits. Maybe we should put the vote to the public for their positions? I do not claim to know alot about politics but in the recent changes of our National Debt, the fact that so many countries and or entities holds this debt scares me. I feel like we are slowing losing America and in generations to come there will be major consequences. One of my favorite quotes is from Mark Twain, "No man's life, liberty or property are safe while congress is in session." I think there is alot more truth to that then most realize.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
21 Feb 10
You know, I wish I knew what the tea partiers really DO stand for. I mean, in the beginning the emphasis seemed to be on taxes, like the original tea party. "Taxed Enough Already" was their slogan, right? I recently heard that the overwhelming majority of those involved with the tea party movement believed their taxes had gone up since President Obama took office although the truth is 95% of us got a tax CUT. I've also heard from the beginning that they were dissatisfied with Washington in general and supported neither party yet there were high-profile members of the GOP leadership speaking at all of their major rallies early on and most of the signs they carried were anti-Obama and anti-liberal. There have been many signs and pictures of the President as Hitler as well as calling him a socialist, fascist and communist. I'm NOT calling everyone or ANYONE involved with the movement racists but you must admit the crowds at the rallies have been almost exclusively white.
I know the "national convention" where Sister Sarah was the keynote speaker and then gave her pre-screened three question interview with notes on her hand has already been denounced by other tea partiers as not being representative of them, which is a relief since their other speakers included a blatant racist and a publisher with ties to the birthers and the truthers.
I love the idea of a truly grassroots movement of "average" Americans. I agree we need to really clean house in Washington as well as in our state capitals, counties, towns and cities. I think we NEED to get the big money out of politics and that means taking away the power lobbyists have over politicians and candidates. I don't know anyone locally who has attended any tea parties and I'm not even sure if there have been any in my area so other than the few of my friends here who have attended some in their area I know nothing other than what I see on the news or read in the newspapers or online.
To answer your questions, I don't know if the majority of those who support the tea parties think the Republicans are "like-minded" but I know the Republicans think they can "absorb" the tea partiers. It's hard to say who would be hurt and who would be helped if they became a political party. I think being involved in a movement like the tea partiers is fine but I think we also need to focus hard on campaign finance reform. A good start is to try to undo what the Supreme Court did with their recent ruling and then get to work on kicking the lobbyists out for good!
Annie
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
21 Feb 10
I think the official platform of the republican party is "like-minded" with the tea parties. So is the reform party's platform. The problem is, what politicians are doing does not match the platform they claim to stand on. Political party's seem doomed to corruption which is why I think the tea parties would do best to endorse the specific candidates that match their values rather than any one party.
I've always said that political parties are like "Voting for Dummies". They teach people to blindly vote for people they know nothing about beyond the letter next to their name.
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@usmjam (1)
• United States
6 Apr 10
Forming a registered group would subject said group to pressures to conform, compromise and capitulate. Said group would then be following established party to "consolidate their voting power", and nothing would change substantially. The resistance to the two-party scam would simply be absorbed into the establishment collective.
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
21 Feb 10
I think that the platform of the Republican party is closer to Tea Party ideals than is that of the Democratic Party. However, not every Republican candidate is going to be the candidate who best represents their views. A case in point would be Scozzafava in NY23 this year. Conservative voters abandoned her in favor of the independent candidate, Hoffman. Following the principles that the Tea Party stands for might, in some cases, mean going for a fiscally responsible, moderate Democrat. I don't think the Tea Party consists of people of just one party, they are people who have a particular vision of America and the type of government they want. The Republicans are desperately trying to woo them, and that's a good thing if it makes the Republican party go back to its original platform of smaller government and more personal responsibility and liberty.
The Tea Party is not ready to form its own party at this time, in my opinion. But they may be one day. What they need to watch out for is letting another group hijack them, because the larger the organization, the more likely it is to corrupt those pure ideals in the name of "politics".