Why don't women press child support more often?
By mslena75
@mslena75 (561)
United States
February 23, 2010 5:55am CST
I have a lot of friends who are single parents...some through no fault of their own, and others because the relationship went sour. I see a trend that many of them either won't press for child support at all or they do not press it to the extent available to them by law. I don't understand this at all! Many of them have the old "I don't need him" kind of attitude. I feel like a man needs to be held responsible for a child he helped create. And let's face it ladies...most of you really do *need* the help, you are just letting foolish pride get in the way and cut off your nose to spite your face. If I were in the same predicament, it wouldn't matter to me how well off I was on my own, I'd still ask for it. What do you think?
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@junmae (1586)
• Philippines
24 Feb 10
I also have some friends who doesnt push the father of there child for child support. They said that they want the guy off there lives and they dont want there child to see there father because they are not worth it and irresponsible. I am pregnant but not yet married with my boyfriend, our relationship is smooth sailing and he promised me to get married once he got a job. I dont expect those thing to happen because I know that guy suddenly changes his mind. When the time comes that he will leave me and my baby, I also wont push him to support the child because I dont want him to be a part of our life anymore. I believe that I can raise the child on my own without his support.
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@mslena75 (561)
• United States
25 Feb 10
If you automatically assume your boyfriend will leave you, why have a baby with him? I don't understand the mentality that you don't ask for support, only to cut him out of the child's life. Whether you like it or not, that is your child's father. If he is such a lowlife, don't lay down with him in the first place. Yes, things happen. Yes, people change. I still think no matter what, the kid suffers. They should have a chance to know the dad, they will figure out in their own time if dad is worthless or not.
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
5 Mar 10
Paying child support and spending time with the kids are two different things altogether. My ex-husband did actually spend time with the kids and they are pretty close to this day. Now my youngest daughter's dad was paying child support diligently and yet never hardly saw her even tho he lives right across town. I made a deal with him that I'd drop all his child support obligations in exchange for him spending time with her and being available for her while I worked as we work opposite shifts. He did well until the deal was finalized in the courts. Now it is amazing if he sees her once every other month or so.
@kaylachan (71610)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
24 Feb 10
While I agree that the father should be held responsible for the child they helped create, not all cases is it wise to be pressing for child support. I think weather or not the mother receives child support is dependant on several factors. Her, and her child's safty being the most important. A woman who may have just gotten out of an abusive relationship should not risk having contact with her partner. And, in some situations it could make things worse.
I don't feel the law should get involved in people's personal affairs based on the choices they made. It just tends to complicate things. The law then determines what is best when it is up to those who created the child to make those decisions. Only, if the mother and child in physical danger should the law get involved. Otherwise woman should be left to the raising of their children.
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@mslena75 (561)
• United States
25 Feb 10
I'm speaking in general terms. Obviously, if the mother is being abused that adds an entirely different dimension to the story. I do think that a PARENT should be held legally financially responsible for their child. Children are NOT cheap to raise and care for. If you don't want to take care of one, take precautions so you aren't put in the predicament. Men usually leave the women with the bulk or all of the responsibility and that is crap.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
23 Feb 10
Its one thing to get the child support ordered. A whole different issue enforcing it. I am going through our County Child Support Enforcement, I paid for this service and they are useless. He tells them that he is not working. I have shown them that he drives a company vehicle, uses a company phone, that he talks to them on, I have told them where and when and they just respond with, he says he isnt working. I had to give up my house, he is getting a new one. Something is wrong with this picture.
@mslena75 (561)
• United States
23 Feb 10
Now you are exactly right and that is the part that really burns me. I don't see why they bother to enact laws that they aren't going to enforce. I cannot believe you provided them with all of that proof and still didn't garnish him! One thing I wonder...when you do the worksheets, do they ask that you provide either paystubs or filed income taxes? That is crap. I see too many guys do this. I do know though in some states, if the father owns real estate, you can get a lien put on their house if they are in arrears for child support. I know of at least one person who has actually done this. Perhaps you should look into that. I'm all about playing dirty when it comes to stuff like that. Your court should be ashamed. Wow.
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@str8_up_cutie83 (217)
• United States
23 Feb 10
I have to two kids and they both have the same father. My daughter is on child support and my son is not. The whole process of getting child was a huge inconvenience I constantly had to take time off work to go to court, fill out papers and send them back in the mail. Then by the time is given months have passed. Here in Florida they count child support as apart of the your income even if he is not paying. The child support enforcement agency is very difficult to deal with. ME having an order for my daughter got me kicked out of my income restricted apart, even though I am not receiving it. So for I see why alot of women don't want to waste their time and energy to go after support. Sometimes its easier to cut your losses. I come to think that I need to do it all by myself if one a check comes in the mail that is a bonus but I won't depend on it.
@mslena75 (561)
• United States
23 Feb 10
Wow!!! How is it fair that they count child support as income even if you don't receive it!? How can they do that? How nice to be bumped up a tax bracket and don't even have the take-home to show for it? Someone needs to complain and get that law changed. Wow. I must say I am appalled.
@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
23 Feb 10
I would expect that only reasons not to press for child support is if the man is too poor to afford it, lost his job, or if he is a dangerous criminal whether in jail or not, and you know that if you asked for child support, he would be able to get to the children and either harm them or turn them into criminals like him.
That is the only reason. Pride is not a good reason. Making more money then him is not a good reason. The mother can ask for him to set up a trust fund for the children that you could not touch and that is for their education, or whatever.
@imajerseygirl (433)
• United States
23 Feb 10
I have 2 children by a deadbeat, and I have an order for child support. Never once got a dime til I gave them the information of where he worked, the telephone number and this after being in court and him telling them that he was working!! I had to do all this work. I found the rest of the information thanks to a little birdie and the internet. I think it is insane! 7 years later he has only paid about $1000. The only time my kids get money from him is around income tax season. What about the rest of the year? In my mind to be honest, the effort and the time spent chasing him to pay it, I could be working to supply it for them. And I know that is the wrong way to look at it, but it is the truth, I have come to the point were trying to get it is just a waste of time cause it doesn't get me anywhere except in and out of court where he doesn't show up.
@mslena75 (561)
• United States
23 Feb 10
Wow...you should have asked the court people for THEIR checks since you did all the work for them!! That is beyond insanity. I could understand being discouraged when it appears from the posts I see here that the system just doesn't work. The sad thing is that the kid suffers...moms have to work extra hard alone to keep things together. The more the mom works, the less time the kids gets with the parent that actually cares. Makes me sad. Deadbeats suck!
@imajerseygirl (433)
• United States
23 Feb 10
It is sad trust me, but just like a lawyer I consulted about the whole thing is he said if you don't do the work they won't do it either cause they have so many cases to deal with. You have to find the info on your own and hand deliver it to them. I am lucky I am married to a man that loves them like his own, and just so I can spend time with them I only work nights and sleep a couple of hours (so yes I am sleep deprived) but I would much rather be sleep deprived instead of constantly going back and fourth to court and to lawyers and to offices, and sticking them with sitters so I could get it done. My kids are happy and that is all that counts to me, you can't miss it if you never had it. Right?
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
5 Mar 10
Hi mslena,
It can be really frustrating trying to raise kids without child support and even more so if the child support is ordered but never paid. Many of these men work under the table and their income can't be proven. If the court does award say 100.00 per week and the woman goes to get help with housing or other things then that income is included in her income even if she doesn't get it regularly. Housing will take 30% of you child support income for rent as well as 30% of your own income. If you don't get it then you have to make up that 30% out of your own pocket. This extra expense can make it difficult to pay other bills. Sometimes that income can cause some women to not even qualify for any sort of help which can really be difficult if they woman doesn't even get it most of the time or if it is nothing you can count on. My ex got behind thousands. He got away with it because each time we went to court, he'd make a payment of about 200.00 and set up a new payment plan and continue on not paying till the next time .
@mfernandezus (76)
• Philippines
26 Feb 10
how would a guy support his child when he cannot support himself - the reason why he was dumped in the first place.