Would you have let her in to use your phone?
By pandaeyes
@pandaeyes (2065)
February 26, 2010 6:48am CST
I just answered the door to a woman who told me she was knocking on her friends door around the corner and they were not answering.
She said she wanted to phone them and showed me her mobile phone which she said was run out of credit.
Could she come in and ring them on my phone.
I said I didn't really want to let her in because I didn't know her.She tried to show me her old bus ticket with a picture of her on it as proof!
I said no but If she gave me their phone number, I would telephone them for her.
She wouldn't give it to me!
She said they would be 'funny about it'.
I said I could easily explain that their friend was worried and her phone wasn't working .
She still wouldn't write down the number.
Well in the end i said sorry I couldn't help her then!
What do you think?
Was she a con woman trying to gain access to either phone details, things in the house or seeing how gullible we were or was she genuine?
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52 responses
@mzz663 (2772)
• United States
27 Feb 10
I think she wanted more than to make a phone call.
If she was worried about her friend, she could have let you dialed the number from your phone.
I had a visitor at 4am one morning with an odd story, the guy wanted me to let him in, he ran out of gas (but he pulled in my driveway and shut off his headlights) he dropped his wife off at work(shifts started at the factory at 7am & 11pm) he was from another town and he was lost (but he had said his mom lived just down the street and she wasn't home) **apparently she went to get her hair done at 4am??**
When I told him he couldn't come in and he couldn't use my phone, that I could make a call for him or call the police to help, he yelled a few vulgarities and left.
Later I was told that there were people knocking on doors, doing what he done and there would be two of them, one would get in the house while the other distracted you and rob you (amongst other things)
Do I let someone in my house that I don't know? NO WAY!
I'm guessing if this woman was knocking on her friends' door and they weren't answering, there was a reason they wouldn't answer the door....
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@pandaeyes (2065)
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27 Feb 10
I think so too.Maybe if she was being truthful,her 'friends' were not wanting to answer the door because they were avoiding her.
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@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
26 Feb 10
Well... There are possibilities, that can be taken into consideration.
How was her appearance? How did she talk (her manners etc.)? Did she tell you who her friend was, whose door she had been knocking...? That information can be helpful in judging this stranger. Picture IDs don't always mean everything. A fake ID can be easily created. I wonder, why wouldn't she give you the number of her friend. There was no harm in it. Her friend is your neighbour and wouldn't object your call nor 'would feel funny'. You did the right thing in denying her the help that she wanted by entering your house.
Still she could have been an innocent woman who really wouldn't want others to know her friend's number... That is a rare possibility! She might come back for some other help and if she does, then I advise you to be cautious...
@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
26 Feb 10
I guess, you did the right thing... It is always good to act upon what the minds says about this... And if you didn't feel that her appearance, manners etc were not appropriate, then you certainly did the best thing.. The example that you've mentioned here about your sis smoking, confirms that this stranger didn't have nice intentions.. I think, you should inform your neighbours about it. The next time, it wouldn't be this girl to make an attempt, it would be someone else... That's how these people work, as far as know... Be cautious!
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@pandaeyes (2065)
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26 Feb 10
Her friend does not live in our road but in the next street,she said they had just moved there which was a bit fishy I thought because even if I lived in their road, I wouldn't recognize the name (she didn't give a name or number of the house).
She sounded very like my sister when she was about 14 trying to deny that she had been smoking when it was obvious that she had, I mean she sounded cagey and not altogether convincing.
She had tried one other house in the whole street (about 30 homes in that road) before coming to ours.
The person there didn't let her use their phone else she wouldn't have been asking me to use mine.
I'll probably never know if she was genuine but I shall keep my ears open in case anyone says they had the same person knocking on their door.
@pandaeyes (2065)
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26 Feb 10
I think that most people will not let her in .
There is so much on TV about people tricking others with false stories that most people are on their guard at once.
Luckily my elderly neighbour who might have let her in ,is away .
@jezzmay (1845)
• United States
28 Feb 10
I do not feel you did the wrong thing, I think
you where right. If you were home by your self
you where right in what you did. I would not
have let her in either. I do not have to worry
about it, I have a dog and she would watched a
stranger like a hawk.
@pandaeyes (2065)
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28 Feb 10
When we owned a dog,I always took her to the door with me.
Once a young girl knocked and tried to get me to subscribe to a gambling syndicate.
She seemed far too young to be doing that sort of thing and our dog snarled at her really viciously even though she was usually friends to all the world.
@pandaeyes (2065)
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1 Mar 10
We had one for a good long time but with traveling to and from the kids universities it would very difficult.
I would like a small dog in the future. Ours was an Alsatian and she was always full of bounce and woof but friendly as anything.
@sanuanu (11235)
• India
2 Mar 10
If I was the person in place you and had I not read your post, I would have let her use my phone without asking a question but after reading your post, I think I would have also asked the same question.
The funny part is that if I am using a landline phone, then there is no point hiding the phone number from me because I can note the date and time and can find the number once my bill would arrive, isn't it?
So, if she was hiding the number, it was wrong!
@pandaeyes (2065)
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2 Mar 10
There have been a few scams where the person will register a phone to a premium number and then anyone who rings it, is charged for the privilege. Just like when you telephone to vote on TV talent shows.
The phone company has no way of knowing it isn't you using your phone so you must pay the bill anyway.
It doesn't matter whether you have the number or not after the call is finished.
My husband thought that ,that is most likely to have been the reason she would not tell me the number as it would not be an ordinary phone number but noticeably different..
@faridmadeabillion (1127)
• Bangladesh
21 Mar 10
Hey friend,
You're so lucky to have escaped from her tricks to con you. We must be careful about strangers who tries to impress people with their sly talks. I also would have never let her use my phone as it could be more dangerous for me. Who could tell that she didn't want to contact someone (may be her crime accomplice) to inform her position to help her carry out her evil design. You did the right thing. May be I would have called 911.
Have a nice day.
@faridmadeabillion (1127)
• Bangladesh
22 Mar 10
Hey friend,
My God! If the police are so indifferent about the people's complain, who else are we going to trust for help? In this there no way out except we establish our own security body with our local people.
Have a nice day.
@pandaeyes (2065)
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22 Mar 10
Yeah she was a fishy character.
I don't think calling the police round here would have helped at all.
Our local police are so lethargic.
Usually i like the police but out lot are ridiculous.
Once I had an intruder in my garden and when I rang them they told me to go and ask him what he wanted.
Another time my neighbours burglar alarm went off and when I rang them they told me that as I had the front door key, I should go and check if it was a burglar or not.
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@tayd88 (205)
• Malaysia
26 Feb 10
hi pandaeyes,
for sure i wouldn't let her in for i think she's not being honest.It's like she's hiding something which that's why she don't wanna give you her friend's phone number.Sometimes people will use any tricks to gain entry to our home either for some bad reasons or motive.Perhaps she's got some accomplice waiting just outside your doorstep.
Do act cautiously when meeting with strangers no matter if it's a she or he.
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@pandaeyes (2065)
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26 Feb 10
I did feel guilty really to say no but as you say,she was acting a bit oddly.
She seemed to know a youth who passed her as she went to try another house.
@pandaeyes (2065)
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26 Feb 10
thanks tayd88 ,I do think it was the right decision and I'm sure my husband will think it was.
@patgalca (18391)
• Orangeville, Ontario
27 Feb 10
We have a set of 3 cordless phones in our house. I would have just brought the phone to the door for her to use, without letting her in. She does sound a little fishing what with not wanting to give you the number and all. You should have asked who it was saying you know all the people around there. If she wouldn't give you THEIR name then you'd know she was up to no good.
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@patgalca (18391)
• Orangeville, Ontario
27 Feb 10
I had a guy come to my door claiming to be from such-and-such company, had an ID around his neck. He said he was here to inspect my hot water heater for free and if there was a problem we would book a time for service maintenance. I said, "I don't know who you are or the company you claim to be from so I'm not letting you in my house." He understood and left. After I closed the door I realized my hot water heater is a rental from my gas company. They would be the ONLY people to inspect and maintain my hot water heater. The guy COULD have been legit, but not for MY hot water heater.
@pandaeyes (2065)
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27 Feb 10
She had covered her bases by saying they had just moved in.
I am suspicious of a person who is so ready with her 'forms of ID' and her answers to everything even though they don't seem logical, manner.
It sounded too planned out.
Hubby said it was right not to let her in, he sounded suspicious even as I described it to him .
@fluffysue (1482)
• United States
27 Feb 10
No, I would never let a stranger in the house, maybe in some sort of extreme emergency, but this woman simply being worried about her friend does not qualify. If she was that worried, she would have had no problem giving you the number, I think her supposed friend would have understood. You never know what could happen if you let her in. She might have a weapon, she might even be working with someone else who could force his/her way in once she is in the house. Or she could simply be scoping out people to possibly rob later. I really think it's better to be safe than sorry.
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@fluffysue (1482)
• United States
1 Mar 10
I like to check, too, though it's difficult to do so where I live, without the person seeing me. Usually I don't even answer the door, unless I can see that it is someone I know, or am expecting (such as package delivery, repair person, etc.). I've always been like this for some reason. Some people think it is being paranoid, I say it's being careful, and it's kept me alive this long!
@pandaeyes (2065)
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28 Feb 10
Strangely she went to another house after ours in which the women live alone and I imagine they did not answer the door.
I am often alone in my house as my husband works over 40 miles away and commutes every day.
Quite a few of the houses in our road are occupied by widows or elderly people and it was at a time of day when younger people are at work and their kids are in school.
Her knock was urgent and insistent , like the knock the postman makes when he knows you are upstairs and may not hear a soft knock.
I usually peep out of the upstairs window and answer it if I think it is worth the bother but it was so like his knock, that I automatically answered it.
@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
26 Feb 10
yea i dont blame you at all. i wouldnt have let her in my house either. but i do have cordless phones so i might have got one and went outside with her well she called the person.
it also depend if i knew the friend she was trying to reach, i know pretty much all the people who lives by me
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@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
26 Feb 10
i have let strangers use my cell before. but i keep close to them just in case. but it does depend how they acting as well
@pandaeyes (2065)
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26 Feb 10
She said this person had just moved in.
We have mobile phones but so did she.
Her phone was run out but I don't know if she meant credit or battery power.
I think I would have been risking it to hand her my mobile phone ,it has all my details on and my families numbers and after all,she wouldn't even give me the number to phone even though she knows I live here but know nothing about her.
Her friends were apparently in the next road but why come to our road to knock on doors?
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
27 Feb 10
Hi pandaeyes! I think that you did the right thing! And I also
think that was very quick thinking on your part! I am not sure
I would have been as smart or quick thinking as you! I might
have brought the cordless phone to the woman and let her use
it! And that might not have been a good idea, now that I am
thinking about your reaction! In fact, you have taught me a
lesson! I sometimes am gullible and want to help someone in
need! My boyfriend always yells at me for opening up the door
before asking "who is it"? Thank you Pandaeyes for opening
up my "eyes"!
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@pandaeyes (2065)
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28 Feb 10
LOL Thanks Opal26.
It makes me think of the phrase, once bitten twice shy.
I have had a few nasty encounters in the past (at school) and I think it makes me a harder ,more cautious person .
I have had money demanded of me on my way home from school too(when I was about 13)and managed to remove myself from the situation by talking my way out of it ,while inside, my heart was going like a jack hammer but my head was saying 'all around ,people are witnesses and you can talk loud and clear so they hear it all'.
@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
27 Feb 10
Some time ago a man asked my husband if he could use his phone, and hy husband let him do it. The man was honest, he talked to his friend for a moment and returned the phone to my husband. Later my husband started to get worried about the situation, and he was wondering if the man had used his phone for something illegal and he thought that he might get in trouble for it. He also realized that the man might have stolen his phone, and he decided that he wasn't going to let a stranger use his phone again.
I feel the same way about my phone. I would be very careful if a stranger asked to come inside and use my phone. It is possible that (s)he was honest and simply needed to talk to someone like the person who borrowed my husband's phone, but it is also possible that the person just wanted to gain access to the house. There have been incidents where strangers have asked to use the phone or the toilet just to get inside the house and steal money etc.
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@fluffysue (1482)
• United States
27 Feb 10
I don't like lending my phone to strangers, either (cell phone...no one gets in the house to use my home phone). I recently lent a phone to someone on a train, only because I knew he couldn't go anywhere as it would be 10-15 minute to the next stop. But I kept a close eye on him the whole time.
A couple of months ago, I had someone come up to me at Starbucks and ask to use my phone, which he could see I had plugged into the wall. He had some weird story about how he was from out of state, on his way to see someone, car broke down, etc. But this was nowhere near any interstate, even a bit far from the Parkway exit to really buy this story. I suggested he ask the people working there to let him use the phone or make a call for him, but he didn't like that idea. After I lied to him and said that the phone had no charge and wouldn't work plugged into the wall, he left. (He didn't bother to ask any of the other 10 people in the place to use their phone). I saw that he met up with someone else, and they walked across the parking lot, passed a couple of police cars....if they were in trouble, surely they could've asked the police for help, or directions to a pay phone, or something. Very odd, too, that between the two of them they did not have a working phone. I'm sure it is possible they really did have a legitimate problem, and I felt a bit guilty, as I've been stuck places with a broken-down car myself, but it really is too risky to trust people these days.
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@pandaeyes (2065)
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28 Feb 10
In both those situations trust was automatic and being wary came afterwards.
I think we are probably all like that at first and it just depends how quickly we find ourselves duped to make us think twice the next time.
I had things stolen from me in school because I was too trusting (I mean when I was about 11 years old),even though it was obvious that we were penniless and those doing the stealing thought of it as a funny little adventure and themselves clever for having wangled their reward.
My son when he went to scout camps kept his spending money on him the whole time and at one camp was accused of stealing the other children's money because he was the only one who hadn't reported his ,being taken.
He had to point out that he had kept it on him (even in his pajamas) because he didn't trust one of the other boys and when they searched the other boys things(they searched everyone's belongings) they found all the other money and some that had come from elsewhere too in that other boys possession.
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
26 Feb 10
She may have been genuine, but I wouldn't have let her in either. The bus ticket just proves it's her ticket, not who she is. In her shoes, I would have given you the number and waited outside while you called.
If I was expecting to get hold of someone and couldn't, I'd also be a bit concerned. Did she show any signs of concern or worry at all? If she didn't seem bothered, I'd say that was an indication that she was trying to get into your house. The trouble is these days, so much bad stuff happens that we're all suspicious of strangers. However, I'd always err on the side of caution, especially if I was alone in the house.
@pandaeyes (2065)
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26 Feb 10
She was not overly concerned really.
I know if I had been , I would have asked the householder if they could please just phone for me.
It's awful to think we can't just say yes but I am on my guard with anyone who just knocks at random like that,especially as she tried to peep in the window with her hands cupped round her eyes to see if there was anyone in .
I wonder if she is new to the area and checking out the lie of the land.
We have housing estates in our town where the crime is bad and sometimes people from one estate are transferred to another in the same town to dissipate the trouble.
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@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
26 Feb 10
From what you've said to others, I'd say you were right to be suspicious. As you say, it's awful to think you can't just do what comes naturally and help out, but you have to think of your own security above other considerations these days.
@cerebellum (3863)
• United States
27 Feb 10
These days you just can't tell. She might have been genuine. It is strange that she wouldn't give you their number though. You probably handled it the best way. Or if you had a portable phone or cell phone you could have let her use it. That way she could use the phone without coming in.
@cerebellum (3863)
• United States
1 Mar 10
I didn't know that cell phones could have personal info on them. Mine doesn't, but it is just a straightforward phone. It doesn't do all the things they can do now. I just wanted a phone I don't need all that other stuff. You were right to not let her use your cell in that case. Better safe than sorry, as the saying goes.
@pandaeyes (2065)
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28 Feb 10
I have got a cell phone .
We have 2 of them in the house but I am not lending a stranger my cell phone when it is my emergency contact with all my details on it.
Mine was quite expensive and bought with savings. If she had been a friend,she would have come inside and had a cup of tea as well as use the phone but I had never seen her before.
@RobtheRock (2433)
• United States
26 Feb 10
I agree with you pandaeyes. My question though is, is it so ancient that people no longer write notes and put them on or slide them under the door anymore? Something was very fishy about that woman's request.
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@recycledgoth (9894)
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26 Feb 10
I think you did the right thing hun, if you have any doubts then don't do it. Con men have so many little ways to check you out, I would be quite suspicious too
@pandaeyes (2065)
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26 Feb 10
Weirdly she didn't try the next couple of houses but the one on the end by the alley where a group of sisters live together(no man in the house),even though there was a man about 5 houses up,outside mending his car who she could have asked without even having to knock.
@whyaskq (7523)
• Singapore
28 Feb 10
There are three things I can do :-
1) Direct her to the public phone round the corner. She can use coins instead of credit.
2) Give her the cash necessary to make one phone call at the public phone.
3) Bring my phone out of my gate and dial the number on her behalf before passing the handset to her.
Whichever, I would not let her in my house nor dial the number herself. Too bad if she has caller-ID to "track" my phone number. I would take note of the number to make a police report should I start to get harassing calls.
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@pandaeyes (2065)
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28 Feb 10
She certainly seemed very cagey about letting it be known who should would be dialing.
There are some phones in the street on the other side from her friend I think, not the same road but only the same distance in the opposite direction.
I wouldn't hand her coins though because it is a weakening of conviction on my part and she might use it to further gain favours on another occasion especially if she lives nearby.
@palonghorn (5479)
• United States
8 Mar 10
I would have done the same thing as you did. I would not have let her in to my home, no matter the excuse she gave. I would have offered to call her friend, or she could just go back and wait. Sounds to me like it might have been a con.
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@pandaeyes (2065)
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8 Mar 10
Yep she was not a good lady I think.
I haven't seen her since but I am sure I would recognise her if I did.
My mind raced on and I am thinking about her height ,weight and features in case the police need to know but at the end of the day, the situation ended with me saying 'no' and her walking away.
@goodfundadvisor (671)
• India
8 Mar 10
She sure was trying to gain entry to your house. The number was most probably fake. She was out to con you, that's for sure.
It is good that you refused to allow entry. Better safe than sorry.
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@pandaeyes (2065)
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8 Mar 10
Thanks.
Even my trusting neighbour though that this lady sounded fishy.
I think had she managed to come inside, it would have ended up in being a punch up as there is no way I would have let her walk out with anything that was not hers.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
3 Mar 10
The way you describe how she refuses to give her friends number is really a doubtful action.
If i was really in trouble and no credit on my phone,i would surely give you my friends number so you can call them.
What's wrong with giving my friends number if i am really in trouble.
So,i guess,there is something behind this woman...
It's hard to trust a stranger,esp if it is the first time we saw them.
We never knew what trouble they can cause to us.
It is always good to be cautious all the time.
@pandaeyes (2065)
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3 Mar 10
I think we have to distrust everyone at first and then work from there.
I used to say to my children never talk to strangers and it was a golden rule with them.
Once at the bus stop, a man was talking to them and they ignored him. He said your children are very rude not to answer and I said they aren't being naughty, they are following the rule 'never talk to strangers' and he and his wife understood at once.
Really we had meant it to be when they were not with us but they had followed it to the letter.
I learned that one of my relatives was abused by a family friend long ago. His parents absolutely trusted that person and so didn't think anything of leaving the child in his care.
So sad that there are such nasty people around ,it makes me wary of everyone .
@hagirl (1295)
• United States
2 Mar 10
Well I have a cordless phone and would have took the phone to her..... I think you did the right thing.... It sounds she was really wanting to come into your house.... She may not have done anything to you but wanted to scope out your house to come back and steal your belongings.... That is usually the way theft works most of the time.... It is usually someone that has been in your house before atleast one time.
@pandaeyes (2065)
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2 Mar 10
I saw my neighbour yesterday and she said luckily she was out on that day.
She said she never ever lets anyone inside anyway.
Last Autumn we had a pest control man to kill a wasp nest in the roof.
I came with him and watched him from the top of the ladder.
He didn't have any protective clothing or even gloves.
He said it was cold so any wasps would be quite slow to react and he knew the nest was small. He sprayed something and said that would do it.
I thought he spent a lot of time looking at our things in the roof(I didn't say so) but he said he was just checking if there was another nest.
Anyway about a week later, my husband went in the roof to check the water tank and came down quite quickly.
He said,'there is a wasps nest up there I could fit my leg in'.
So how did this pest control man not see it with his trained eye when he spent such a long time looking?
There are so many dishonest people, it is difficult to know who to trust.