What purpose is there really in having children?

Wow MrKennedy lol/ I have exactly the right view point that uis exactly what will happen, and you and I both know it. As for the last paragraph, we wouldn't miss what we never knew, as for Earths pop vanishing so fast. look at the mess mankind is making of it. Prob. best it does. Thanks for your reply. At least you don't want them to look after you when you are old. Have a Great Night.

Before I had my first child I didn't think of the negatives that would come for the child or the positive. But knowing what I know now I don't think I still would ever say I wouldn't have had none. Children are part of our lifes challanges. Isn't life more boring with no challanges? I feel hurt when they get hurt, I feel happy when they are happy. When my kids get older and have to deal with more heartships I will feel for them but we are here to guide them and help them. It is more of just a preference of your own if you want those challanges or not.

Seems like it is an instinct as said before, and sadly an instinct people just give into. At least you know where I am coming from, Your grandaughter will have heaps of good times too. Its just from my slant I think it is all pointless. But don't get me wrong I have no issues with depression, an a person that lives it to the max. I think its because i have a High IQ I analyse too much. Good topc tho and I am hearing from others, most of the males I know said they only had children because their wives harped on. They would have preferred to stay footloose and fancy free. But there again most also said they would have stayed single lol.

Lelin, your post is a bit confusing to me. You say that if you had known then what you know now you wouldn't have had children but at the same time you mentioned your granddaughter. To have not had kids, she would not exist. I have five grandchildren and I can't imagine thinking that if I had things to do over they wouldn't be here. Of course, she, like everyone else will have to deal with life's little ups and downs but isn't that what makes us stronger, isn't that what molds us into being who we really are?

Thats me, the World is a mess I come from a privileged background in terms of schooling food always there good clothes, I have never seen the point in having Children, so the Dinkys was invented for me. I have never been able to find anyone that can give me a real reason why they are doing it. Most say and this is selfish so I will be looked after in my old age. They obviously do not know the reality of this. I have never had any cravings to have kids. I though well I'm here I'm gonna make the most of it before I kick the bucket, as it were.

Most seniors are languishing in their homes, forlorn and lonely children having left the shores seeking greener pastures. It is folly to think that children are brought into this world so that the elders can be taken care. Children have their share of burden in a world such as the one we are living in just now.

I know, I know, I was in a Youth Club and we mowed lawns for needy in the Community, you had three sorts. Genuinely needy, with no one Ie they had no rellies to help. 2 Those that saw you as a cheap alternative to the lawn guy. Then there was the third Group. I always remember, this old lady living in a cruddy pension flat. We mowed the Lawn and she gave us the usual biccies and Tea, and the cursory chat. I noticed all these pictures of literally piles of kids all over her walls in various states of aging. Turned out she had nine, I asked her Are they Abroad, Oh no she says, They haven't got that kind of money the smallest of their families is also nine, By now I am thinking her relatives are here and we mow the lawns for free. She then tells me that 4 were unemployed and they were too busy with the problems that they had with their kids to bother about her. So much for having kids to look after you when you are old. In our Culture it just isn't so.

Firestorm am hearing you, but everyones parents knows the kids aren't going to have a brilliant end. I mean How many cool ways of dying are there, they are all pretty horrible. I think the last generation, only had kids, because they felt it was the thing to do. Many more question it today. But as for happy and the to look after you when you are old and sick, you are right that is so sick, I cant comprehend it. So many in this country of the lower socio group have kids to ensure a State paid benefit, till the kid is 16, 18 if still at school, it used to be 5 but they got around that by having more children. Sadly the people like you, sane and nice are not the ones having all the kids, seems its the thicker ones that just have two instincts. One to breed and the other to gain pecuniary vantage from the process.

Firestorm if it was mandatory to have children perish the thought, then i think you would be one of the best equipped intelligently that I have come accross, Happy and some of the others are just so behind the times. I didn't know there were still people that thought like that. There is a woman doing a reality T.V Show I saw that on here, she is pushing all the boundaries, and that is for money her name is Michel duggar.

I think kids is our hope & future because we are going to be old. Kids is our treasure. We have to multiply in order to exist.

lol. We agree to disagree o.k.

I have strong survival instincts, I have instincts to go shopping lol. But I don't have an instinct to have Children, Surely I am not the only one out there. I have friends exactly the same.

I consider it a compliment that you see that I am a religious person. As such I do believe in immortality but it in no way reflects my desire, or lack of it, to have children. Some people truly love children and to have their own is the ultimate goal. Others have children because they believe it is what you do following marriage. The former or course we would expect to be very good and loving parents. The latter would be a toss up. But both have a legitimate reason for having them. All living things are programmed to reproduce. It is what makes the species continue on. Clearly there are some people who should not have had children as they have no clue how to raise them and find them to be something that holds them back from the wonderful life they envisioned. That is sad for the child. Regarding my son's diabetes. This was inherited. The potential of both my children to contract it was there but at the time we had them, only my wives mother had it. No other history that we knew of on either side. So we took the chance. Strangely enough at age 41 my wife contracted it also. The thing I am trying to point out is that there are no guarantees for any of us. But when things go bad we do what we can, and move on. My son contracted at age 8. My first wife, his mother, at 41. My second wife got it at age 42 but failed to take care of herself. She suffered the consequences of that and passed away at age 64. My son is 38 and doing well and his mother is 67 and doing well. I will read what 'Chanelgirls' has to say. I think we all know that, for the most part, men do have all the breaks regarding this issue. What I am trying to tell you is that I am 69 years old and looking back at most of my life I can tell you I would have not done anything differently. I love my children and the thought of not ever having them, at least for me, is unthinkable. However because you feel the way you do, you are very right in your decision. It clearly reflects that you are a very responsible person, not willing to compromise. That is very much the way it should be.

No, I plucked it out of the air, without any justification, perhaps because my life was as easy and perhaps because I saw people that had Children often as broke, wondering where their lives had gone. Don't worry won't be changing the mind ever hahaha One thing I do is make a decision and stick to it. You say one of your kids has diabetes, thats a horrible thing, so really you have simply added fuel to my fire. It doesn't even need to be in your family diabetes is everywhere these days. I simply cannot get why people are so hell bent on having kids. Why don't you have a look at Chanelgirls discussion, she sees things from a diff/ point from me. She sees it as men having all the Breaks. So it has opened a wide discusion sometimes heated, sometimes in agreeance. But one thing I have noticed is that people with kids, seem to need to justify their position more than those that can't be bothered. You are clearly religious so possibly you look at things in a light that you will all go on into immortality, I dunno

My parents were the ultimate, my brothers well one I decided to write off as a selfish tosser, but I had it all. Yet still decided no Point. You are 62 so you are alot older than me. My outlook I believe is based on fact not fiction. Thanks for the reply it didn't surprise me.

Yeah they'd be awful busy lol.

Sensible Person. Lol

Ouch! That was a bit harsh, your opinion but a bit harsh. I don't really understand people that don't want children either but I guess not having different opinions is what makes the world go round.

I'm just curious happy do you take care of your parents?

Happy that is so selfish you had them so they can look after you when you are sick and old lucky old them.. Exactly my point.

thats naughty mady hahahah I think it is the funniest response do we have a button for that we should.

the Indian kids here are changing alot don't you think?, many are not going through with arranged marriages, which is prob. not that great an idea as most Indian Couples did at least try to stick with it. Intersting remarks. Thank you BTW I love the Culture and the food.

Hi thezone, do I sound like I am laughing lol :) You just answered a question, with out answering it. Shrewd.

Congratulations on your baby. Trust me, when you hold that tiny little life in your arms for the first time, you will realize that you have someone that you love more than ever imaginable. You said that you the difficult things in you life made you stronger and that you would never wish your child will not have trials...thumbs up on that statement, I agree 100%.