Doctors, can you trust them?
By nykel88
@nykel88 (999)
Philippines
February 27, 2010 7:22am CST
I was visiting a friend in the hospital for the past few days. He was admitted due to high grade intermittent fever that is what he said. I asked him how many days were you here in the hospital? He replied, 4 days already.. I exclaimed: That long?! What did the medical team do and especially the Doctors.. (They try to find the cause of my illness.. they did find a way to level my temperature to normal levels).
Okay..
Then they found the right medicine for you right? You already looked fine and ready to go home.. (Yes, apparently I'm really fine now. I don't even have the IVF attach with me but the doctor said you should stay for awhile for any observations of re-occurring fever.)
Really? They would not release you yet? That is sad. I think they just want you to stay here because I really think you are contributing money here and payment service to the doctors here in the hospital..
I mean he looked fine and he can move and do anything, he has no IV attach to him, and they wanted him to stay for awhile.. are they making money out of him? If they are I'm sorry to know the reality.
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@dreamnishu (1247)
• China
27 Feb 10
No i don't think so that they are not allow him to don't go home only because he contribute money. May be they wanna re check. May be he has no fever right now but in his body this fever virus available. So again he have a fever. That's why they said doctor will re observe him and find out is he perfectly ok or not. So we should trust them.
@tereza_chaul (4)
• Brazil
27 Feb 10
Six months ago I had an accident in Germany. I had just arrived at the airport searching for the train station and I've fallen on the rails. As a result: two broken ribs and a colapsed lung.
as I am a scuba diver, my main concerns at that time were if I would ever dive again. Then, Ive asked the doctor. At first he told me: "Dont worry, within a month".
When I left the hospital another dctor told me I should wait at least three months.
Back to my country (Brasil) one month after the accident I've looked for a doctor to follow my case. He said " You look great! I m going to issue a license. You can dive tomorrow".
Well, diving after a pneumothorax is quite serious , I needed more than a license, so I decided to see another doctor.
Well, here I am. Six months without diving. I wonder if I'm waiting in vain or if something really serious could have happend to me If I had follow the other doc's advices. The whole thing is that one of them is totaly wrong.
@magtibaygom (4858)
• Philippines
27 Feb 10
Yes, it's true, they are making money... but it's the normal procedure. Some illness needs to be observed well for days before we can make a conclusion. For example, with Dengue fever, a patient needs to be observed for days, before we can conclude he or she really has a Dengue. :)
@Tiaridakdyl (114)
• United States
4 Jan 11
It also has to be considered that if your friend went home and had a relapse, everyone would be furious at the doctor for not keeping him longer! One job I don't ever want to do is be a doctor - too much worry about being perfectly right about every single thing at all times. And any mistake may ruin your patient financially or even cost his or her life.
@dilipmiester (932)
• India
27 Feb 10
ya surely . in most of then times we can and we should trust the doctors . those are the people who save our lives and their is nothing wrong in trusting them . i think their are only a very few doctors who bring bad names to many and i think most of the doctors in our country are true in their service and we will definitely trust them . . .
@jetteh22 (15)
• United States
27 Feb 10
Hmm.. This a touchy discussion, to say the least. I am currently working for an Answering Service and we answer for all kinds of doctors (family practice, hospitalists, concierge, cardiologists, etc) and I can honestly say, from my experiences, that most doctors really ARE very rude and only care about themselves.
At the same time, I don't think most doctors would make you stay in the hospital. They aren't getting paid on commission - they're on salary. It's not a "the longer they stay the more you make" type of deal with doctors.
I recently had a friend go into the hospital because she wasn't feeling good and they found out she had Pneumonia. Instead of just giving her the meds and sending her on her way they wanted her to stay for a day or so just in case it sprang back up. Lo and behold it's a good thing she stayed. They found out that both of her kidneys were failing and in the process of trying to save them they also found out she had 3 blockages in her heart - very very bad in case of stroke/heart attack. She had open heart surgery to save her heart but her kidneys aren't saveable.
Turns out that whatever was wrong with her kidneys caused the pneumonia. The heart was just a coincidence but because they asked her to stay for observation for a day or so they probably saved her life (she's got to be on dialysis for the rest of her life because she can't get a kidney transplant with a heart problem - they won't even put her on donor list, but still). A lot of times it's because there may be an underlying cause, I guess.
They are making money out of him but I doubt that's the main reason they are keeping him there. Better safe than sorry, right?
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@nykel88 (999)
• Philippines
27 Feb 10
That sound so sad because she had that kind of disease and very good for ruling out the diseases in her body. In your situation of your friend it was a misdiagnosed disease. My friend got his diagnosis for a high grade intermittent fever (still its non-specific) but he looks fine, I don't know I'm not a doctor.. but it really sounded he is just making money out of him..
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@KiraNoFutago (107)
• United States
27 Feb 10
Not necessarily. There are plenty of things they could be watching for. Some illnesses fade and return, and sometimes they weaken you where you feel okay until you try to extert yourself too much. Generally, when they keep you for observation they have something specific they are watching for. You may be making them money, but they have other patients for this and usually having a free bed would do them a greater service than detaining you for no reason. Your friend should just trust his doctor and wait it out. So long as everything remains normal, he'll be out of there in no time.
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@nykel88 (999)
• Philippines
27 Feb 10
Yeah but, He told the doctor let him out just today but the clearance was still for tomorrow. Discharge payment in the hospital for 1 day here is due 12:00nn if it goes beyond that would make another charge to that room. The doctor didn't yet give the signature for the clearance. I don't know I kinda don't trust his doctor though, but I'm not saying all doctors do this..
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@KiraNoFutago (107)
• United States
27 Feb 10
In a matter of personal distrust, I find the easiest way to figure out is to ask questions. Ask exactly what they are watching for, and ask for more details if the respose is vague. Knowing a little about medical conditions/symptoms or having someone in the room who does can go a long way in telling a fraud from genuine care. If the level of distrust is that high, however, I really suggest your friend just go to a different doctor from here on out.
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@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
27 Feb 10
Not always, because a doctor can give a person a mis-diagnosis. This has happened to me several times before, and two times it almost cost me my life. Then, I began watching a show on Discovery Health called "Mystery Diagnosis", and I was shocked and amazed as to how often and how many times a doctors can mis-diagnose a condition or a disease. It happens more often than people think.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
27 Feb 10
The doctor’s opinion on your friend’s case might have some merit…he may not be having an IVF any more but since he was suffering from intermittent fever I think it would do him good to stay under observation maybe for a week. However, that said, I don’t trust doctors… I avoid them like plague. Even for a simple fever they will make a patient undergo several tests that will leave a big hole in the pocket…added to that are several unnecessary and expensive medicines…most doctors are paid by medical companies to prescribe their products and hospitals are no exception.
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@Dumpertaker (1187)
•
28 Feb 10
I do not trust doctors, and not done so for a very long time.
I had open heart surgery at the age of 18, but it could have been done sooner as I had a heart condition since birth...yet it was on my medical records "mother not informed as not to stress her" what the heck would have happened if it killed me??
Add to that the fact that most doctors I've been to see never seem to listen, is there any point to trust any medical service?
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@bubunyellow (32)
• India
27 Feb 10
ohh yaa dear friend.this may be your or your friend's case.just few days ago there is a news flashed in news paper that a doctor while making the treatment of his patient ,that pirate stolen the necklace of his patient.I don't understand what is happening to these special people.Though i agree that all the doctors are not of same catagory but some of them are now day to day becoming more greedy in nature.
The more they are earning the more they are becoming more hunk of money.These people are trying to forget their humanity intensionaly.Only one way to give the lession to these doctors is to cancel their license and to send to jail.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
27 Feb 10
nykel88 we go to do ctors and hospitals because they have all the medical knowledge we do not have, yet we are now constantly berating them for anything they do for us. why, are we damned medical practitioners? no
we are just laypeople. The doctors had a reason to keep your friend there as usually a hospital will dump out people just as soon as they possibly can as they want that bed for some other patient who is waiting. I think the vast majority of doctors do much better than most people now days credit them for. No doctors do not keep patients in the hospital just to make some money, there are always people waiting to be admitted so doctors and the hospitals do not just hold people there for whims.
As for looks you may look fine, and still be really sick, so do not pretend to know medicine and leave it up to your friend's doctor to decide when its safe for him or her to go home. A lot of problems of health do not necessarily show up on the patient's looks but in his or her blood tests.
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@jzumari (101)
• Philippines
28 Feb 10
i think your friend is under observation. intermittent high grade fever is a serious sign of a dreaded disease. some diseases are even asymptomatic, showing only fever as a sign. in this cases, observation is very important as any sudden attack may happen like convulsions, hemorrhage and apnea. but if your friend really feels well, maybe he should consider talking to his doctor so he could be discharged and his bills would not pile up.
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
28 Feb 10
Bad doctors exist, unfortunately; there are bad apples in every profession. But before I walked out of the hospital because I felt fine or thought I was fine, I'd ask a lot of questions, and if I didn't like the answers, I'd ask for a second opinion.
There are plenty of people to fill the bed your friend occupies; most hospitals are overcrowded. So their keeping him there to get his money makes little sense. Someone else's money is the same...it's money.
@aquiles999 (5)
• Mexico
27 Feb 10
well, it can mean either of those things. like some have alredy said, it can be because the illness can re-appear or is just beacuse the doctor want to rebuild his/her house (is just i way of saying).
it all depends of the doctor, let´s just hope in this case it is really because of an illness that have some chances of re-appearing, and no because some greedy tought.
if you want a way to find out, ask a doctor you trust about what he thinks and if he/she tells you there´s no need to stay in the hospital, well... there your answer. XD
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
17 Feb 11
Wow!! Something here does not seem right at all. I would think that they would let them know more than that if they were keeping them in the hospital for observation as to depending what Insurance the person has, a lot of them want their patients usually released before they are really even ready to go home. But in all reality, I think Doctors a lot of times can be sneaky and usually will not investigate the Truth on why something is happening just to keep you coming back just for the $$ as well.
@amirev777 (4117)
• India
10 Feb 11
Hi
I think you have to trust them. We must remember that even they are humans and not Gods. medical profession was considered s a noble profession, but not any longer. The unscrupulous practices carried out by some of the medicine-men, have given the entire faculty a bad name. I think the bad elements need to be purged out.
@fifileigh (3615)
• United States
5 Mar 10
lots of doctors are full of crap. always get a second and third opinions. and get recommendations from people you know who actually know and like and trust that doctor.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
13 May 10
My husband was in the hospital at the end of February/beginning of March. He had a 6 mm kidney stone that was obstructing his urinary tract and he had to have emergency surgery for it. Well, he'd had a previous surgery in January of this year and we thought that they would discharge him after the procedure was done, but they kept him in the hospital for observation for another 24 hours. The reason for this was to make sure that infection didn't set in. It made me really angry, but all in all I really think that the doctors do know what they are doing.
@megamatt (14292)
• United States
2 Jan 11
I'd like to trust doctors but these days, they are more out for the money than anything. It is a sad state of the world. Most people are wrongly accused of not getting medical attention because they are scared. However, I think that it is more that they are more scared of the bill. Not all doctors are like this granted, but they do all sorts of things to draw a few more hundred dollars out of people when needed.
@hellasreh (7)
• Australia
27 Feb 10
its all depends from the ability and powers one doctor has from another
the other thing is does the doctor really care about you or is he just there doing his job going home and getting paid
or is he/she there to help and not worry about the money
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