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@allknowing (136566)
India
February 28, 2010 7:40am CST
We all know there are FAQs and guidelines but why should we be penalised if we help newbies with their problems. No matter how many times one reads the guidelines there are bound to be issues which need clarification which the seniors here can help out. myLot Admn are you listening? May be until they reach say 200 points they should be allowed to seek help from fellow myLotters.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
28 Feb 10
I realise what you are talking about but I want to point out that it is absolutely NOT only new users who post those topics.
Many ask questions through PMs and those are not penalised at all.
I often respond on those discussions and then report them immediately because I can completely understand why they should be removed. Many users respond offereing the wrong advice in the responses, they are repeated topics and as all the answers can be found in the FAQs there is no need to post to find out.
The problem is not about penalising those who help but making sure that everyone, new and old users, USES THE FAQs.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
28 Feb 10
They are certainly not something that you can skip through quickly. You have to stop and consider what many of them mean and read between the lines too. Many Lotters possibly find it difficult to understand what is written there, let alone what is not and what has to be grasped by logical thinking. Unless they are simplified or broken up and may have sub topics, I think it is always going to be difficult for some to be able to understand them.
Of course, if you don't even go and open the link then it is an impossible task
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Feb 10
hi diana maybe mylot admins could have some sort of questionaire for newcomers to check that they have read all the information, maybe even for all of us as new stuff is added. something to help all of us really understand the guidelines better, I do think the guidelines could be made a lot clearer and use more simplified language.a lot of problems I think come from having to rethink our English into the first language that foreign users use then translate it back again.I hope I made that sentence clear as I realize its clumsily worded, but I think people who do not speak English are having the most problems here in understanding the TOS and all the other information.
@allknowing (136566)
• India
1 Mar 10
Guidelines could be simpler as not all can understand them. You are right even veterans sometimes need help. But helping out should not be considered a violation and that is my contention here.
@sulsisels (1685)
• United States
28 Feb 10
hi allknowing..Idon't get it..Who is penalizing you for helping new people? This is all new to me..just curious..
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
28 Feb 10
When a user, any user and not just new users, posts a discussion which asks a question which is already covered in the FAQs, it is later deleted and all the responses are deleted along with it.
I believe this is the problem that is brought up in this topic.
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@allknowing (136566)
• India
1 Mar 10
It was happening all the time but now that I receive notifications I come to know about it!
@homeshoppers (6166)
• Philippines
28 Feb 10
i understand your concern but since admin dont allowed us to help newbies then its newbies responsibility to read TOS and guidelines or we can just PM them instead to be more private than in post. Besides admin will give them warning if they do made mistakes so lets just ignore it and lets continue posting. happy mylotting
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@common_man (1799)
• India
28 Feb 10
i am a new member, just joined 4-5 days back i have read guide lines, but yes, at times some doubts remains, and its always better if seniors can clarify it ot the new comers.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
1 Mar 10
Welcome to mylot, common man. If you have any questions you should contact administration as it says to do in the guidelines or PM one of your friends who has been here for a while. In doing it that way rather than posting a discussion then you might be more apt to get accurate answers or at least not 50 of the same answers to one question.
@avani26 (1518)
• India
28 Feb 10
I do fully agree with you. Infact I had rejoined mylot after around 2 years but lots of things have changed so I need help but I am actually not ready to post any discussion and get it clarified. I really hope the admin takes a note of this.
If not 200 we should be allowed to seek help atleast till we reach 100.
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@megalancer (134)
• Philippines
28 Feb 10
It isn't really a problem unless if you've tried it yourself. If you tried it before, maybe clarifying it here will remove the penalty. Who knows, a new rule might be added from it.
@allknowing (136566)
• India
1 Mar 10
Despite reading guidelines the one with experience can say the same thing in a better way and so I feel there should be some freedom. The one who responds gets her/his response deleted. Let's see what happens.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
1 Mar 10
The guidelines are actually pretty clear really. It also states in the guidelines that if you have any questions at all to pm the mylot administration which actually makes a lot more sense then to post a public discussion where the user might get varying answers and be further confused. Most of the ones that are asking for help simply have not bothered to read the guidelines so it is like instructing them to read the instructions. There are so many of those types of discussions and they are repeat discussions as well.
@Buchi_bulla (8298)
• India
28 Feb 10
If mylot does not want seniors help newbies, then they must have a reason for that. Each one may tell new things and finally the exact point would change to somethingelse. Let the mylot new member approach Mylot administration only to clarify his doubts.
@allknowing (136566)
• India
1 Mar 10
Seniors need not make their own rules but atleast they can point out to guidelines pointwise.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
1 Mar 10
Seniors do direct newbies to the faqs and guidelines constantly. In fact if you look thru the discussions it is done so much that many seniors have grown tired of it. It would be really cool if the newbies would read thru them first and then ask if they still have any questions
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Feb 10
allknowing why is it so bloody hard for anyone to read the guideline, theTOS the quesions and answers? I mean sure we older ones can keep right on day after day after day anwering the questions they the newbies ask and get our responses deleted with the newbies posts, and yet I have seen the same newbie ask the same questions after having his previous post deleted, doesnt anyone ever learn after having got the answers? Nobody spoon fed me the information, I read it for my self. For one thing some of us older ones here do really need the money we earn, maybe thats shocking to some, I love mylotting, and the money is frosting on mylot cake, but still I do need that money. if I answer twenty questions all almost identical from 20 newbies, thats 20 deletions and 20 bits of money I have lost. okay yes I like to help but there becomes a limit to anyone's patience.If need be make the quidelines, the rules, the TOS , the Qand A's easier to read for the newbies, use grade school language if necessary and have some sort of link for them to go directly to mylot admins if they do not understand the grade school language, thus relieving us older ones of having to give up hard earned money.another idea as so many posters here tell me the guidelines are boring, make them fun, something grade school easy to understand fun so they will enjoy reading the guidelines. the word bored comes up as an excuse for just about anything here in mylot, and I am wondering if there is anyone left here who is not bored, bored, bored with everything. give me a break. I like life,so do not find many things boring..But yes I do get bored hearing people say constantly mylot this or that is boring.
@allknowing (136566)
• India
1 Mar 10
I too have learnt a lot here on my own but despite being good at understanding what the guidelines/FAQs are all about I did get help from veterans. I have not heard anyone saying that guidelines are boring but some find them difficult or whatever. My contention is that those who respond should not be penalised!
@chrystaltears (3392)
• United States
1 Mar 10
Well, I din't know seniors weren't allowed to help new mylotters. I just thought they were sick and tired of it from their answers. I don't remember reading that you can't help us. I don't believe everything is covered in the guidelines. I know for a fact that I asked a question today on mylot.com that is not covered in the guidelines or faq.
@Sandra1952 (6047)
• Spain
28 Feb 10
Hello, Allknowing. You raise a valid point there. I thought things would get better with the 'welcome' email from MyLot, but it's not. The problem with the 200 post thing is that we still have spammers here, and if they can get away with it for 200 posts, they've achieved their object.
I always go in to help newbies - we were all newbies once - but I try to keep the posts short, so that if I get deleted, it's no big deal. Perhaps the best thing is to just post a link to the guidelines and FAQs? I think it's worth helping people, because we do get some real diamonds come through the rough, don't we?
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
28 Feb 10
Hi Sandra.
I respond too but I have no problem with deletions and it is absolutely not confined to new users (how long is anyone 'new' here anyway?). I would not want to be accused by anyone of earning here just by joining those topics.
It did seem last week that there were fewer queries being posted but now it is back to how it was before again