why are some people so interested in other people's relationships?

Hello, PA. Yes, I've read something similar. Okay it's my daughter so I'm biased, but I have to say that she and her friends are some of the most moral people I've ever met, and there's certainly no suggestion of them coercing anyone else into their lifestyle. If anything, the opposite is true. Everytime my daughter goes out, even though she usually goes to places where gays are in the majority, some fella tries to 'pull' her. The last one was very persistent - he texted and phoned her for about 3 weeks before he finally gave up. In most cases, it's so they can brag to their mates that the lesbian couldn't resist them, but I think the last guy was genuinely keen to have a relationship with my daughter.

Sandra, you make an excellent point! People have no problem trying to convince homosexuals that they should become heterosexual, because it is the accepted "norm". These same people are usually the ones that scream the loudest that homosexuals are trying to "turn" or "corrupt" others. Talk about double-standards.

sounds like your daughter is a decent person with decent friends. persistent men are often good at not taking hints - even if hammered in with a sledgehammer. you could probably scream 'i do not and will never fancy you' at the top of your voice. 5,000 times and they would tell their mates 'she fancies me'.

agreed, i think that is different, generally. disappointment at having grandchildren being less likely it not quite the same as nosying into other's love lives and judging them harshly on that basis.

I think people forget that just because someone is gay or lesbian does NOT mean they necessarily don't want to have children. Things may be different but not AS different as people who care about the person fear. Above all, they should remember - if they care about the PERSON, then the rest of the situation should not matter.

That's true. I was talking with my kids about this last holiday. One of my daughters friends is a gay man and he had terrible reactions from his parents which led him to try to kill himself. I said that his parents probably loved him so much but were disappointed that all their hopes for his future would be spoiled.They just didn't have the right way to express that to him. (Well obviously some have no love for the new 'alien' being). I think it is unfair of parents or other family or friends to pass judgment on their family members life choices like that and I hope my kids both see that My husband and I would not do so. Its true that gay couples can still bring up children, of course they can but it is the idealised scenario in their own families minds that is changed.

sometimes people are not aware when they hate someone, they hate them because they are seeing themselves on that person. And sometimes they know they hate certain person, but they are not aware by becoming curious they started to like them.

definitely if somebody keeps mentioning a person's name at every possible opportunity it means something - probably they admire them, or fancy them, but could also mean they really don't like them or are jealous. whichever it is there are strong emotions there.

That's why he kept his mac on Bunny. To stop the dribble from staining.......

he was just being conscientious. i am sure he felt appalled at the sight of strippers and most certainly was not sitting there perving. the fact that his notes had dribble on them means nothing.

LOL @ "Apparently he had to visit a large numbers of strip clubs in order to complete his research!" I guess he was just trying to be thorough and make sure that he had all the facts in order to make a proper judgment.

Oh yes there is quite a few of those around and guess what? they probably have a few skeletons of their own hiding in their cupboards, yeah wouldn't We like to know!

the kind who spend half their time watching telly and the other half parting their net curtains with their noses? every small town has a few of these, and i feel sorry for them, there is nothing in their own lives so they spend their time spreading what they think is scandal.

extremely well put mr hex

can be. fear of the unknown leads to a lot of problems

there is a fine line between natural curiosity and being a complete busybody. and some go so far over the line it is ridiculous, you feel like finding them a hobby or giving them a pet to keep them occupied and stop nosying about just quite so much.

I haven't found it to be teenagers who are homophobic, more or less it is the generation of my parents and grandparents, and even some from MY generation. I would say the majority I have encountered were born in the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s... the younger generations are a little more used to variation, and wise people teach their kids there are natural variations in people around them and it isn't right to have issues because they are different or live differently.... For instance, when I was a kid I was raised religious. I remember having a certain attitude toward things that were either non religious or NOT my religion. I am no longer religious, so as a parent I teach my daughter that there are many different religions and things people believe, and they are all just different, no ONE is better than another, no ONE is to be elevated above any other, just accept them all as part of life. I think it's a lot better than my view when I was five or six because she is tolerant and accepting instead of boxing up everything like I did.

i'd agree that it is older generations that seem to keep the attitude. however i think with people aged about 20-50 many changed attitudes after leaving school, especially boys. i think homophobia in schools is probably becoming less but it is still there.

i think you are right and insecurity sometimes has a lot to do with attitudes like this sometimes. it is interesting that the most homophobic group of people in this country at least is also the group most uncertain about themselves - teenagers. my brother in fact used to be like this when he was 14, 15. then he grew up.

just guessing but i suspect you have encountered some hassle yourself...one of the easiest ways to manipulate people is to find them a victim, sorry 'enemy'. since most people are straight then telling them homosexuals are demons works pretty well, and i think this might be behind the attitude taken up by two fundamentalist religions.

well most people's relationships have am aspect outside the home - you'll probably visit places with your other half at least sometimes, if you don't actually there might be something wrong.

would you feel the same if it was a man and a woman? i agree that couples can get a bit carried away in public and really anyone over 15 looks bad doing this. holding hands or the odd kiss is fine though.

oh and because of the way society is most gay couples are pretty discreet when out.

completely agree. oh and i deal with unwanted advances in a similar way, i am truthful but try not to hurt feelings. to women i say i am straight, men i tell them i have a boyfriend. much better that saying 'you must be joking if you think i might fancy YOU!'

good perspective. i haven't seen it put like that before but i think you are spot on.

thanks

it often says something about the person doing it

Unabashedly...absolutely NOT so...monochromatically depressing. Worm diets...excellent mineral content...NEVER hungry...as I am an early bird! What happened to the "white's" of your eyes?

annoying pushy people should indeed be pushed back. hey have i told you why you should consider a carrot based diet? it is much more ethical, religious and orange than whatever you currently eat. carrot crunchers are better people than everybody else

Ugh. I think the entity at fault is 'the world' at large. If the world at large didn't have such a stupid closed minded view of anything different, then there would be no worrying about how talking about someone's intimate life would damage them.... In my opinion it shouldn't damage anybody. They aren't the ones with a problem. It's everybody else lol.

I knew the Elvis of the world were good people. Orser should have sued his ex for telling the world about things that are intimate and might have damaged his image as the world goes.

can you explain what you think the difference is andy?

I have had, and still have friends that are gay. They know exactly where I stand, and I know exactly where they stand, yet we get along just fine. That would be a personal level. As a believer in the Bible, it is my duty to support the laws of God. Therefore, politically speaking, I do not support the gay movement. That would be the national level. Further, I believe that when the Bible says God judges nations on their sins, that this means God will judge nations for their sins. So I also don't buy the idea that they are not hurting anyone. When the actions of the public invoke the wrath of God on our nation, their actions hurt everyone, including themselves.

Oddly enough in light of that, it gives an odd slant on their 'disapproval of birth control'.

very hyprocritical and i don't understand why a religion feels the need to control follower's sexlives to this extent

often boredom i agree