How does it make you feel when you see the jobs statistics?
By dragon54u
@dragon54u (31634)
United States
March 5, 2010 11:26am CST
I was discouraged but I didn't feel hopelessness until I heard Harry Reid say "Only 36,000 lost their jobs today". ONLY?! 36,000 people who have lost their income, what planet do these politicians live on? To them we are numbers and votes, not human beings. I can't imagine anyone saying it's good news that only a certain number of people lost jobs. I realize what they are saying, that it could be worse, but our job market seems to be bleeding out like a ruptured artery.
I'm not blaming either party, this discussion is about how the job market as it is now makes you feel, not who brought it to this point.
If you're unemployed, how does Mr. Reid's statement make you feel? Do you want to stop looking for a job and give up? If employed, are you scared for your job security? Does this situation cause you a lot of worry or do you think we have reason for optimism?
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Mar 10
Congratulations, P1key!! I'm very glad to hear such good news! What type of job will you have now? No more tour guide?
The fact that our government officials think no more of us than that statement implies is very sad.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Mar 10
What a cushy job!! It sounds interesting and fun, too. I'm so glad you are doing something you like.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
5 Mar 10
It scares the you know what out of me. It is not "only" if you are one of those people now unemployement...now worried about how you are going to make ends meet.
The prospects for them to find a new job is not good either. Not anytime soon. YOu hear everywhere about people honestly looking for work hard for a year..without finding a job. I know there are not any new jobs around here. Even local Walmart is on a hiring freeze.
This is hurting everyone...wether you still have a job or not. All these people out of work are not paying income taxes...both state and federal. Which means fewer dollars coming in to pay for school budgets, state employees, federal employess and services and programs that governments would normally pay for. Which could mean more lay offs, cuts in services and programs that we all use, and a whole lot of other issues. States are going bankrupt.
I am a stay at home mom so I don't worry about my job security.LOL. But I am worried about my hubby's job. We have been trying to save back as much as we can incase he looses his job due to lay offs. That way we will have a little padding to last us a little while. I know my parents are worried right now. Both of my parents companies have been laying off lately.
It is going to take a FLOOD of jobs coming back into this country before we will see any big recovery.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Mar 10
Thank goodness you have some sense and have been saving some money! You would be surprised how many people have nice homes and plasma tvs but no money in the bank for a rainy day.
I'm worried. I stayed home with my children, too, for 20 years-the best years of my life! but I'm divorced now with a small income and need a job to save for my old age. There just aren't any here!
How will we get jobs when so many businesses are going bankrupts? We manufacture practically nothing anymore. I'm worried, too.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Mar 10
Thanks, lilwonders! There are none here and I feel that since I am getting by I should leave what few jobs there are to people with families. I hope it changes soon but I won't hold my breath. All my internet earnings go into savings and I have enough to live on for about 3 months if worse comes to worse. I'm much better off than most people but only because I planned for this and actively made survival my goal. I've done without a lot of things so I could be independent and secure for a few months if the worst happens.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
5 Mar 10
I hope your job hunting goes well. I know there it is hard. There are no jobs here either. Not even part time ones. I had thought about going back to work part time just a couple of days a week to help put some more money into our savings....but as I said before not even walmart is hiring. Keep your chin up and keep trying.
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@GardenGerty (160626)
• United States
6 Mar 10
That is totally ridiculous. 36,000 jobs are 36,000 people. I am fortunate that I can make the choice to only work part time. I am not old enough to retire. The reason we are stable at this time is hubby took social security early. That enables him to manage on a very low paying job, that is designed for people who are retired or who are on disability. I have been working for that freelance person you introduced me to, and I have now gotten one low paying part time job, and will possibly have another one next week. I had held on to my other job, but the stress was killing me. I have no benefits now, though.
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@GardenGerty (160626)
• United States
6 Mar 10
Right now my son lives with me, and he cannot contribute anything. In fact we have put our money out, quite a bit for him.He got himself in a pickle of his own making, but he is still my son. If my health were to suddenly have a downturn, I have a tribal membership and could access Indian Clinics. There is one nearby. I am very microscopically Native American, but the tribe I am a member of does not care. It considers quality to be important. My sister and niece use clinic services for their diabetic supplies. As far as I know, I am not diabetic, and I will take whatever healthy measures I can to stay that way.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
6 Mar 10
God willing, you won't need those benefits. Take good care of yourself--ridding yourself of that stress probably improved your health a lot!
I got to thinking, what if the job loss figures are going down because the jobs able to be lost are nearing the bottom of the barrel? What if soon there won't be any more jobs around? It's scary for me. I have a small income but like you, I'm working like crazy on writing and surveys and such because there are no jobs here. I don't want to live with my children when I'm old but it looks as if I won't have much choice if things don't improve.
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
6 Mar 10
Dragon, his point is that we have gone from huge numbers (500,000 unemployed Americans a month) of unemployed Americans to a fraction of that. It is something that should be praised, and something to be happy about. It is a FACT that the recovery is underway, and that business is getting back on track. The problem is that employers are not hiring people because people aren't spending money because so many of us don't have a job. Do you see the problem here? Productivity is also high, which means that employers are getting more out of their current workers so why don't need to hire more. Also, temp hiring is going through the roof because employers don't have to pay benefits for these works, and they can fire them at any time.
I am not worried one bit about my job because I make my company a lot more than they pay me, and they can't afford to lose me. I have NEVER BEEN UNEMPLOYED because I understand that you have to make your company better by you being there, and make your company need you. The unemployment numbers don't effect me one bit, I made more money last year than ever before, and I am on track to make even more this year.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
6 Mar 10
I'm very glad to hear that you're doing so well! Some people are. Your attitude is just like mine always was, help the company be better and be an asset. But I still lost my job. It was in construction, in the office, and a horrid time for the industry.
I can kind of understand what you mean, the numbers are going down. But geez, that's such a big number to most of us. (And have you ever thought that the numbers are going down because there aren't that many jobs left to lose? Just a thought that crossed my mind this evening)
I've never had a time in my life when I was unemployed except by choice but I am now. I've got to get creative. What industry are you in, anyway?
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@thegreatdebater (7316)
• United States
6 Mar 10
I agree that there are many that have stopped getting benefits, and have stopped looking for a job. We all know that the official unemployment number is much higher than the official. But, it is getting better and the economy is starting to come back little by little. The problem is that employers have no desire to hire more people when they can get their current workers to pick up the slack, and pay them less. This won't continue for very long, companies will have to start hiring soon, or they will start to lose employees.
I am in the oil business, I sell industrial fluids, and PCMO (passenger care motor oils). I actually have many large construction companies as my customers, and I know it has been a very difficult business the last three years.
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@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
6 Mar 10
One of those 'only 36,000' was a gentleman who spent this snowy winter digging folks like us out from under feet of snow! He heads a group of teens from our church and while other kids are shopping the malls and hanging out doing a lot of nothing, these kids are spending Saturday from dawn til well after dark working.
They change the filters and oil in cars, move things older people can't move, dig out snow from driveways, etc.
This is one of the ONLY 36,000 who doesn't deserve the hand dealt him. I suspect the other only 35,999 didn't either.
But, as you said, we are numbers in the voting booth, nothing else to the powers in our capitol.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
6 Mar 10
I'm so sorry for your friend! There's just no justice, is there? What a wonderful, decent and caring person he must be and what a great influence on those kids! We need more like him.
I suspect he'll turn this to his advantage in some way and do more good deeds in the process. We need people like him in our government! I said a prayer for him, he certainly deserves every break he can get.
@mysticmaggie (2498)
• United States
6 Mar 10
Thank you so much. The bad news just keeps on coming. Another man at church is being let go after 30 years with IBM, but I'm certain he's rejoicing too that there's ONLY 36,000 being let go!
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@TTCCWW (579)
• United States
6 Mar 10
It is so much better then 780,000.
We did not get into this over night. Recessions / large financial market changes are caused by policies over years if not decades. Some of the reasons for this one started 30 years ago and is going to take a lot of changes and time to get out of.
It counld be a whole lot worse and it might not get a lot better for a long while but the numbers seem to indicate we are headed in the other direction and I think that everyone is looking for "anything" positive to say.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
6 Mar 10
You are right, it's much better than 780,000! But still, it makes me so sad and a bit hopeless to think of those 36,000 people who are scrambling to make ends meet and don't even know if they'll have a place to live next month.
@TTCCWW (579)
• United States
6 Mar 10
I keep thinking that it could be so much worse. My Parents were depression babys and we were so close to something worse than that.
If the President can get banking regulation back in place and the consumer pretection agency created we might actually survive as a nation.
We are all going to have to write our representatives to get this done. The banks and credit card companies are spending millions to make sure this does not happen.
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
5 Mar 10
Although I am retired, I am concerned about the unemployment figures. The only check with my name on it is from social security. Workers are needed to pay into social security so that I can receive benefits.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Mar 10
That's a scary thought, isn't it? I won't get much, if it's still operating in ten years when I am eligible, but any little bit helps.
I feel so badly for the unemployed. I've been in their shoes, even homeless with no food and no money, and I know how it feels. It seems to me that our government doesn't have any idea of the suffering these high unemployment numbers are causing and furthermore, they don't care.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
5 Mar 10
I don't put much faith in statistics to show reality. Many people who have no jobs have stopped looking and I doubt that many Temp jobs are reported as lost when they close. Things are bad and we in America need jobs. Our total infostructure is falling apart and yet the government has done little or nothing to get this moving. As in the past, this repair will create many jobs. Most of the stimuless money is unspent, what's with that? We need jobs.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Mar 10
When you take into account those underemployed, those who have stopped looking and those first-time job seekers who can't find a job the rate is more like 16-20% unemployment. It is frightening, and just another way for the government to keep us desperate and willing to accept their control. I think that's what is behind the unspent stimulus money.
@6precious102 (4043)
• United States
6 Mar 10
The thing that bothers me about the job market is that, in my opinion, our government is responsible for it being as bad as it is. I really wish they'd stop butting their nose into every facet of our lives. Let those who understand business, insurance, banking, the stock market, medicine, entertainment, education, farming, whatever, handle those things instead of the government. I realize there might have to be some regulations, but not total control. They act as though they should do all our thinking for us. Are you aware of even one of the above listed items that the government has taken over that's come out better under their control? I'm not. We need to start electing those who will represent our interest instead of Lording over us. But as to your questions, though my job was reduced to just two days a week, I have a job. Since I work as a school janitor, which the school really needs, I'm not worried about job security. Also, I'm not that far from retirement and I'm not depending on Social Security to see me through my senior years.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
7 Mar 10
I'm glad your job is secure! And also that you planned for your retirement so well, so few people don't look beyond tomorrow.
You are right about the government but it's our own fault, we let it come to this. We wanted security and for the government to take care of us, which was never what the founders intended. Now we have to slay the monster we have created through our demands and our laziness. Vote out the incumbents at every election!
@BinaryKat (735)
• United States
6 Mar 10
It burned me up when he said a statement like that because I feel he doesn't see that from a working people perspective in my opinion. I am unemployed because there is currently no temp work that match my skillset and have been trying to find stable employment for the last two years and been using temp work to supplement my husband's income. My last assignment was finished at the end of January. I am also running into problems with getting unemployment benefits and waiting on a decision in writing. I cannot afford to give up trying because financially my husband cannot take all of it himself.
Now my auntie, however, lost her job as an executive assistant last spring and has been looking for work ever since. She been collecting unemployment and hopes that they extend it again cause hers will be up in 8 weeks. She is really trying not to tap into Social Security yet.
I just wish that it would actually show that things are turning around instead of just hearing about it. Hearing such a big number like 36,000 is really disheartening.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
6 Mar 10
I think 36,000 is a staggering number. That's 36,000 individuals with families and responsibilities that might not be met and they'll lose their homes, their cars, and that will make it even harder to find a job. Our politicians don't see us as people, they see us as the great unwashed riff raff, good only for votes.
I was working temp jobs, too, but that dried up a year ago and I haven't had anything since.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
6 Mar 10
There is no such thing as 'job security'. Jobs are lost every year regardless of the over all economy. My favorite quote is "You are only as secure, as your ability to go and make money". Security is an illusion.
Mr Reid's statements do not bother me because he's in politics. Politics is hot air, and garbage. It always has been, it always will be.
I'm more focused on policies and their effect. The policy we put in place was supposed to stop unemployment at 6%, and we reached 10%. We need to stop following those policies.
As for fear and hope, again, it depends on you. If you have no skills, no abilities, and have no motivation for getting skills and abilities, then you should likely be scared. Alternatively, if you have skills and abilities, or a plan for getting some, then it's just a matter of you doing so, and then earning a living from them.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
6 Mar 10
You have a great attitude! And you're right, we need to try something different but we won't. This administration is incapable of admitting mistakes--heck, all the previous ones were, too! I'm glad you are optimistic, I wish you could spread some of that around to the unemployed who feel overwhelmed and hopeless.
@MrKennedy (1978)
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6 Mar 10
It makes me feel very worried. As the statistics get higher, the harder it becomes to actually get a job because there are so many unemployed workers all fighting for a job
It makes me sad how these poor people who can no longer support their families and pay their bills are treated as nothing more than numbers.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
6 Mar 10
I, too, feel sad when I think about all those families in need. I don't know how they are holding it together.
@dobstar (56)
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6 Mar 10
The job statistics looks quite terrible around the globe. I haven't expected that this worldwide economy crisis would hit us with such impact. I do hope things would eventually get back to normal and people would start working instead of loosing jobs almost every single day.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
6 Mar 10
It's frightening to me how many are unemployed now. I'm fortunate to have a small income to live on but those with families and bills to pay with no jobs have got to be stressed out and feeling pretty hopeless.
@wcordon87 (16)
• Guatemala
6 Mar 10
Well, I'm not employed right now but I think that that information is good and bad at the same time. I take it this way.. "36,000 people have the opportunity to look for a new job" or they can start a new business. Instead of looking the glass half empty, I think it should be seen half full!
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
6 Mar 10
That's a great attitude! I hope that if you are looking for a job, you find one soon.
Welcome to myLot! Make lots of "friends" and turn on your notifications and you'll become very busy and have a lot of fun. The most important rule is that you cannot post referral links. Hope you enjoy it here!
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
5 Mar 10
If I was Harry Reid I would have said "To those measly 36,000 people that lost their job today do not worry because I will some be joining you". Is Harry so dumb, people in his own state loath me, yet he some how makes them loath him even more. I know that politics should not be a popularity contest, but come on it should not turn into how much can you hate me contest either.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Mar 10
That was a very poor choice of words, which just goes to show that none of those people think of us as anything more than numbers and votes. When I heard him say that I got really, really sad and for a moment I lost hope of any recovery.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
5 Mar 10
I just hear Senator Reid comments. We should be celebrating not bemoaning the fact that 36,000 more people are out of work. After all, when President Obama said that people should not spend their children's college funds in Las Vegas, shortly after that a major casino closed down because of a decline in business. That was over 400 people who lost their jobs many of them members of the Service Employees International Union and not one word from the president of the Union who is the most frequent visitor to the White House.
To these people it is all about gaining and keeping power not helping people.
Having been unemployed different times in my career I can feel for all those who lost their jobs. In my community we have several programs to help those who need help. These programs are all community supported NOT government programs. I am retired and regularly donate to such community programs - which to me help the people more than the government programs.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Mar 10
I totally agree with you when it comes to communities helping people. Those of us with a little money to spare can help people in our communities without relying on the government--which is what they want and which I think is behind all these job losses and economic policies.
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
5 Mar 10
That number does not include all the family members who are affected by the 36,000 wage earners who will be hard pressed to support them. You are so right they think of the American people as only numbers (votes). I just pray that our votes will one day soon get rid Reid and Pelosi they are a deadly duo.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Mar 10
Those two have done more to destroy this country than nearly anyone. I'd say the same thing if they were republicans.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Mar 10
oh dragon that news makes me angry and sad and ready to bawl if it would change a darned thing. I am retired, but my poor son has been out of work for much too long a time, and this news will just make him feel worse that he already does. I see not one crumb of optimism at all, it just makes me worry more, this is the worst since 1930 when I was all of four years old. that only is almost heartless but then that person sees numbers not flesh and blood people whose lives depend on getting jobs.good news has not happened yet, and when it does I think, lame leg and all, I will dance the happy dance.It has been a long hard year and some months and cost us a p lace to live, as it has so many other people and just wish there could be an end to this. its not depression its a second recession just wish they would call it what it really is.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Mar 10
I, too, wish they would call it what it is. But they won't. And we are nothing but numbers to them, which makes me so sad. I've been jobless, homeless and hungry before and believe me, I didn't feel like a number I felt hopeless and miserable. Now 36,000 more people have the potential to be in that position and all they can say is that it's good news that more didn't lose jobs.
Your son has still not found work?! I'm not surprised but this is ridiculous for joblessness to go on for so long with so many people in that same situation. I will continue to keep him in my prayers.
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
5 Mar 10
I'm not employed or unemployed, I'm retired, but if the economy continues to degrade, and taxes/fees continue to rise, I'll be looking for employment, at least part-time, soon. Senator Reid makes and continues to make some of the most "stupid" remarks; this just being one of many. My heart goes out to those who have lost their jobs; my best wishes go out to those who are looking for work.
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
5 Mar 10
I'm involuntarily retired. I have a small income from my divorce and I can live on it but can't save much for my old age. I'm 55. I stayed home with my children for 20 years. There are no jobs here that I can do. I'm glad my survival doesn't depend on a job but I know what it's like to be jobless, homeless and hungry and I wish our politicians had to experience that. Maybe then they wouldn't look at reduced job loss as good news.
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