The Great Smoking Debate

@Chad525 (349)
Canada
March 7, 2010 1:38am CST
I was having a debate with a smoker (I`m a non-smoker), and he was saying that non-smokers are inconveniencing smokers because 1) Smokers can`t smoke in public places 2) Smokers now must be a certain distance away from public doors 3) That we are making it more difficult for them to have a smoke, especially in poor weather... I disagreed with his points... I thought.. 1) My health is on the line when I inhale your smoke 2) Cigarette butts can be seen all over the road and sidewalks (Litterbugs!) 3) Walking into a stinky smoky place is disgusting... I would really like to see you myLotters have a discussion-debate about who inconviences who more. Do the smokers inconvieniece non-smokers, or do non-smokers inconvience smokers more. *Please keep this polite with no personal attacks or frusteration. I just want to see what you all think Thanks and happy myLotting!
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@quita88 (3715)
• United States
7 Mar 10
HI , I am now a non smoker but used to smoke at least two packs a day. this subject matter who inconvenineces most where , whom, how, etc? I am convinced now that we each need to allow smokers a place to smoke but do dispose of their butts properly and do puff away from me. ON the smokers point of view: they too have their rights: they right to have lung cancer they right to have a heart attack(in my case 2 in 4 days) they stink, the ciggies as well as the smokers They, especially women look sleezy smoking. Being an ex smoker does not give me any special appeal but for the record and watching smokers now and I used to one of them, I watch with total disgust but also remember how POd I was to have to seek other places to light up. It's a catch 22 type of thing. YOu just can't win. I for one Choose LIFE over puffing.
@Chad525 (349)
• Canada
7 Mar 10
You are right. There should be alloted smoking areas. Put them all together in a room and allow them to smoke to their hearts content and keep it away from us non smokers. I'm very glad to hear that you managed to kick the habit, but am saddened to hear about the heart attacks. You are right though, they do have the right to be unhealthy if they want - but they don't have the right to make our lives unhealthier. . .
@quita88 (3715)
• United States
7 Mar 10
You are sooo right. I now feel uncomfortable around smokers mainly cuz the drs told me that second hand smoke kills twice as fast. I have a husband who is an invalid and smokes and it's very hard to keep away from the the smoke. Still it's his house and I gave him the old den totally as his to smoke away plus he collects coins too and watches a lot of Tv. I read in your profile you are 21. A very young age not to smoke. Hang in there and let's stay healthy together.
@quita88 (3715)
• United States
7 Mar 10
I didn't realize second hand smoke kills twice as fast either til the dr.told me. I wish I'd never started the habit but I did and remember I'm older which is an excuse but back then it was considered cool to smoke. Still, I'm glad you had that bad experience and don't smoke.It's a hard habit to quit. I hope you never pick one up. Just be thankfull you never got the habit. I can thank the good Lord for helping me quit. Thanks for being a friend. quita88
• United States
7 Mar 10
i smoke and i have no problem not smoking around other people.some places like public transportation,hospitals,etc even i agree smoking shouldn't be allowed. i never throw my butts..there no reason on earth i can't save it til i find a garbage can(making sure it's long out). but i draw the line at my own home.if i want to smoke,i will. people don't have to come in if it bothers them.as far as people who work on the house though,i won't smoke while they're here,and use air fresheners. i can wait.
• United States
8 Mar 10
i just don't understand other smokers who do pitch butts. i mean,you wouldn't throw other trash on the ground,why that?
@Chad525 (349)
• Canada
9 Mar 10
I'll never understand it either.
@Chad525 (349)
• Canada
7 Mar 10
Like I've mentioned before - we all appreciate that you don't smoke in public places. Makes it healthier for the rest of us. And good for you for waiting until you are around a garbage can before throwing your butts out. Finding them on the street is awful. Babies are curious creatures, I am sure it has happened lots of times where a young child has been curious and picked up a butt off of the ground and put it into their mouths...it is gross. But yes, feel free to smoke in your own house...it is your house. You have every right.
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@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
8 Mar 10
That fellow is clearly turning the table to the other side. Smokers are the ones inconveniencing the public. They have to be sued for posing danger to our health. They know how dangerous it is to smoke and to let other inhale the smoke and their refusal to quit the bad habit is putting our planet in danger. They should stop sounding like we owe them something because it's they who need to answer a lot of things like air pollution, littering, causing fire, etc.
@Chad525 (349)
• Canada
9 Mar 10
On top of things...our hospitals have to cater to the people who are sick because of smoking-related illnesses....which means lineups in hospitals can be longer, service can be poorer and taxes are being used to fund these people! Which would all be avoided if there was no smoking...
@nangisha (3496)
• Indonesia
7 Mar 10
I agree with you, thats smoker often doesn't realize how danger the smoke we inhale, especially for the baby, its more danger to us the non smoker than to them, It smell bad too. I think its not easy to convince them to stop because from my point of view they already addicted to smoke.
@Chad525 (349)
• Canada
7 Mar 10
If they want to ruin their own lungs...go for it - but don't ruin mine, or my families.
@evasmom09 (132)
• United States
8 Mar 10
See I believe that it should depend on what public places you are in. I believe that if you are in a bar you should be able to smoke because alot of people who drink want to smoke too.I think that if you are in a family restaraunt or public place that children and their parents are present you should not smoke. People should respect the fact that parents do not want their child exposed to second hand smoke.... I am a mother and I am also a smoker... I will admit I expose my child to smoke but I do not want her exposed to a mass amount of second hand smoke.
@Chad525 (349)
• Canada
9 Mar 10
But thats where the great debate comes in... yes, smokers want to enjoy their drink with a smoke but non-smokers want to enjoy their drink without smoke! Bars here in town have a gated off area where the smokers can go and bring their drinks with them, so they can still drink and smoke to their hearts content.
• United States
8 Mar 10
I am an exsmoker and I am glad that I quite. I think that the new smoking laws are good. Breathing in smoke is just as dangerous as smoking the cigerette yourself. No one has the right to put your health into jepordy. I think that they should try to provide a place for smokers to smoke. I recommed somewhere that is at least partially covered.
@Chad525 (349)
• Canada
9 Mar 10
I'm glad you did too. Don't you like having a bit of extra money around?
• United States
10 Mar 10
I love it, I never knew I was paying out so much money for cigerettes. They are getting higher priced everyday
@primeaque86 (8108)
• Philippines
7 Mar 10
Hi chad, I am a smoker but I could not dare to debate with you because you are right... I smoke couples of stick a day but I am concern to those non-smokers. Effects of smoking has more worst effect on the non-smokers who inhaled the smoke... I am worrying about my health now, I am not feeling it so far but the nicotine I intake is quiet enjoying my lungs now... and I am doing my best to minimize my stick per day... I could not just stop it right then... and whoever here is a non-smoker, I discourage you from trying one... It's addicting I tell you. Once you started to smoke you could hardly get away from it. Be addicted in mylot...
@Chad525 (349)
• Canada
7 Mar 10
I appreciate that you put non-smokers into your consideration, primeaque. Trust me and I am sure I speak for all non-smokers that we all definately appreciate it. And you are right....if you haven't tried one. Don't!
@JAYMAR777 (840)
• Philippines
7 Mar 10
chad, I am a non-smoker. And i agree with you all the way. I have encounter a patient of ours 8-years ago, a non-smoker but got cancer of the lungs. Every time he coughs he cries because of pain. He got it because his workmates in the work place are smokers. Sad to say he got it and it seems to be so unfair. That is the reason I also hate those smokers who doesn't mind those who are non-smokers. Especially if a public sign is present. Cheers chad.
@Chad525 (349)
• Canada
7 Mar 10
That is some serious stuff. I couldn't imagine the life he is living right now...especially with all of that pain when he coughs. It isn't fair to him at all that he truly is suffering because of other peoples actions, especially at a work place. That is so sad...thanks for your input!
@Lexus656 (672)
• United States
8 Mar 10
Well to begin with you guys aren't the only ones being nonsmokers that are inconvenienced smokers are to. I understand not wanting to breath it in or whatever but there should be able to be designated smoke areas. You guys want to mark a community and then kick us out but then we are expected to follow that but we can't do the same to you guys. I mean you are talking like what you are saying is a fair opinion. I am a smoker and I don't think it is right that we arent allowed even designated smokeing areas. I understand not wanting to eat some where smokey when you arent a smoker thats fine but you still have to think of our side it's almost like banning redheads from all malls. I think this discussion is starting to get a bit petty. You want your rights and we want ours but we don't get the rights that you do. I am a smoker and I dont smoke near people that dont like it or are worried about their health and I am very mindful of them so I don't see why you are making all smokers out to be the boogey men that are out to get you. We are respectful people s well you can't lump a a whole group of people into a category just because they smoke.
@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
7 Mar 10
I believe that smokers inconvience non-smokers. Since non-smokers don't desire to smoke we shouldn't have to inhale their smoke its just not fair to non-smokers. A non-smoker should never have to inhale smoke anywhere at any time in my opinion. I remember when I use to travel back and forth by boat to get to work. When departing the boat smokers would be ready to light up as soon as we we were getting close to the dock. So as you are walking off the boat smoke is going into non-smokers faces. It was so disgusting, that I had to stand in the front of the boat all the time so I can run off usually being one of the first so I wouldn't inhale the smoke.
@Chad525 (349)
• Canada
9 Mar 10
That would just infuriate me!
• Turkey
7 Mar 10
i think smokers disturb non smokers. i am a smoker also but try not to some near non smokers. I am warned sometimes by non smokers.stop smokiin when i hear complains smoking is also bad for health.trying to stop it
@Chad525 (349)
• Canada
7 Mar 10
Well thank you for stopping...all of us non-smokers appreciate it. And I wish you the best of luck in your quest to stop smoking. Welcome to myLot as well :-)
• United States
7 Mar 10
Lol! I think this is something people will definetly pick sides on. Smokers aren't considering the health and hygiene of others, and it makes sense if you consider who and why smokers gernerally er smoke. I think generally people inconvenience each other in one matter or another, but it's not like you can seperate a city based on what activies or characteristics differ them. If only people could just get along, accept and adjust to each other..lol
@Mrphc30 (36)
• Mexico
7 Mar 10
He's the one that is stealing our freedom :(, I think everything that makes human health decrease should be illegal and maybe just the fact of making smoking legal is already a favor to your friend, if non-smokers where the second priority tere would be a lot of lung cancer, when smokers are the second priority, nothing bad happens to human health.
@Chad525 (349)
• Canada
7 Mar 10
I have to say that I agree as well. Speeding is illegal because of the threat it causes, hitting somebody is illegal, using a weapon is illegal, but smoking can potentially have deathly effects to other people... It isn't fair that I should suffer because other people opt to smoke.... Fully agreed.