Why English used in American films is different from the English literary ?
By marianna45
@marianna45 (1399)
Romania
March 8, 2010 2:30am CST
Let's face it, most of those coming from foreign countries who do not use English as official language, more or less learn English on television, even if we learn in school, primary school, but usually language used in movies is different from literary English spoken at school.
Because I don t was in America, i never know, and then ask, language is used in movies is use in everyday life too, I suppose. I am really curious, is often difficult for those living in states came to understand an English UK?
And pronunciation is different, am I right? Who can answer me, I think an English who visit America soon will be noticed because of pronunciation, am I right?
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10 responses
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
8 Mar 10
English taught in schools is "Proper English" No one uses it in real life conversations. Its like any language. There is what they teach you, and what people really use. For instance in high school I took spanish. One day I was talking to some spanish speaking people, and I tried to communicate with them with the spanish that I knew. They started laughing. I was embarrassed, and said "this is what they taught me in school. They taught me wrong." They said no you're spanish isn't wrong, its just no one talks like that. And now I'm learning tagalog. I have this language program on my computer. I tried using it with my wife, she laughed. She said that's wrong. I said oh great so I got a program with bad translation. She said no its right, but its old. No one talks like that.
Also as you have noticed there are 2 main types of english. British english, and American english. British english is the original english. They have words that americans don't have. If I were to talk to a brit I would be lost. America speaks english because the brits use to control America before its independence. So it is the main language (unofficially), but in America we are not one group of people. We are made up of people from all over the world. Each with their own languages, and accents, blended with the english, to form the english that is spoken today in America, and in most movies. We do have hollywood.
@marianna45 (1399)
• Romania
8 Mar 10
I know that British is original, i know some history, but i wonder just why is so big difference between English language from movies, which really should be an educational factor, in my opinion, and even the English spoken in everyday life, maybe this movie means business, in any case, in Europe are movies too, even in my country but no difference between the language of film and literary.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
8 Mar 10
I highly doubt that. Every language has its slang. Most people speak in a way that is comfortable to them. As far as the difference in movies. We'll modern movie english is the same english we use in real life. So I'm guessing you are watching older movies.
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@marianna45 (1399)
• Romania
8 Mar 10
yes, i like a lot older movies, why not, but i watch modern movies too.
@lrglara (1334)
• Philippines
8 Mar 10
True. i noticed that too. English in films are different from the English literary. most of the literaries are taught in school. i know its confusing. English taught in school like what the other respondent said, are more formal. they teach you the basics like sentence construction, tenses, pronunciation, grammar, spelling, etc.
American English is the most common since Americans have developed numerous shows and movies which now affects the way most people talk.
like any other languages, English has evolved and have adopted some words and considered it English. Look at the dictionaries, every year they add certain number of words, which people generally accepted as a word, like "doable".
as for British and American English, there are a lot of differences especially when it comes to pronunciation, accents and spelling, so as, Filipino English, Australian English, Indian English... British English stand out in America because of their accent. doesnt mean they're not fluent though! and vice versa.
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@lrglara (1334)
• Philippines
8 Mar 10
That depends. if you think you can understand American English more than British English, then better learn something you already know and enhance it. there's a sense of satisfaction to a learner when he/she finally understands what he/she is studying. If you actually understood the English that you are reading, listening, or watching without referring to an interpreter / resources, be it American or British, you can finally say to yourself... "i've learned something".
i personally have to say American English. I have particular preference to American English since that is what we were taught in school... in short, i don't have a choice.
I can also understand British English. Im currently surrounded by British who happens to speak English in different accents (depends on their origin). I like their accents too. i want to mimic them.
@marianna45 (1399)
• Romania
8 Mar 10
Everybody says that British English is more carefully compared with American sister. British English is unaltered, or at least not to the same extent with the British. In many accents there, and I mean both those made along the years by immigrants from all parts and those of different areas, it is impossible that a language might not change.
I think that American English is more simplified .
I have only a queries, what should I learn English, of movies, British English or American English?
@ashia101 (203)
• Philippines
8 Mar 10
in my country we have our own literature and the way we speak the language is immensely different to what you read from literary books.there are words which are only use for conversation and does not apply to literature and i think that it goes the same to any country then.English literary is somewhat poetic you don't want to speak every now and then like Shakespeare right?
@marianna45 (1399)
• Romania
8 Mar 10
Well then I wonder if English literary is somehow poetic , the longer teach in schools? Shakespeare did not enter into discussion, even the British understand this language difficult, in fact I have asked people like me should not even let the children to school to learn English literary,(poetic language), we should Just let the children watch television and learn from there?
@madteaparty (2748)
• Japan
8 Mar 10
Literary language and spoken language is different in all countries. Also there are different kinds of English, as American and British English aren't completely alike.
In the case of a movie, it has to be realistic, so instead of making the language beautiful they need to express emotions, and that kind of languages is different from the one that you use to make the reader understand what's going on in a book.
It's all English, it's all correct, but used for different situations.
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@dksemke (65)
• United States
8 Mar 10
American movies use language that is spoken by the subject's characters in order to make the story seem more realistic. We have a lot of slang words in America, and within American those slang words are different according to where in the country you live, the environment you live in, etc. Age and technology have also produced a lot of slang words that I don't always understand and I've lived here all my life! But I think it is the same in all countries. I couldn't get used to the English saying "pissed" because it means mad here, and drunk there! I don't think that pronunciation is necessarily so different, but the accent in different parts of the country might make it seem so, especially in New York and in the deep south where accents seem to be the heaviest. It's one of those things you can only learn the way you are doing it now...to ask what it means. Soon enough you will be incorporating those words into your everyday language. That isn't necessarily a good thing. Now the thing that I find about the way we speak is that too many of us use terrible grammer. We were not taught it that way either.
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@marianna45 (1399)
• Romania
8 Mar 10
For me,who trying to speak English, grammar mistakes can be to forgive, but i don t talk about it,i talk about the difference of literary language, which in my opinion, should be used more in films, which are an educational factor, even for people like you who live there.
@tangerinesk (9)
• China
8 Mar 10
Oh yeah, it's quite different between oral English and written English. I'm a Chinese student, as we were taught in class all the times, I believe that if I greet somebody, an American e.g. , "How are you?" He will certainly reply "Fine." But someday I asked an real American, he answered "Good". I asked why, He answered:" 'Fine' is too formal, and we said 'fine' almost 60 years ago." So the English we learned in school is not modern English, the English in movies is the real English.
My English is not so good, because of the Education of our school. This is my first reply, so please excuse my Chinglish ^_^
@lrglara (1334)
• Philippines
8 Mar 10
I believe teachers of English teach modern English. There are several conferences held for updates and current trends in English Language. I have to agree that English taught in school though are too formal but that is the proper / correct / well-mannered way to say it. Same probably in your country, you probably don't use the some answers because you think its too formal especially when you are just talking to a friend.
You have the understand that the English taught in school are curriculum-based. they are designed for Non-Native English Speakers to properly construct sentences and learn the theories. you obviously aren't going to teach a foreigner or a non-Chinese speaker improper way to answer questions, right? that will be considered rude.
Native English speakers have been speaking English since childhood. it may not exempt them from being grammatically-correct but they can juggle the words anyway they want as long as the thought is the same.
@tangerinesk (9)
• China
9 Mar 10
Thanks for your reply.
I want to say that our courses in school is too rigid and dogmatic(is this expression correct?), most classes improve our ability of doing examination, and there very few listening and speaking classes. As a result, most Chinese students are very good at exam but bad at daily talk. It's not good. We learn English for a very long time, but don't know how to use it well.
I believe that language is for communication, not examination. So I hope more useful English classes appear in China's school.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
8 Mar 10
Language learning is funny like that. For example, the french we learn here in american french is almost useless in the french-Canadian provinces Quebec and New Brunswick. The french most schools here teach is propper parisian french.
I am going to assume the english taught in your schools is more along the line s of "queens english", or propper brittish english. Usable but it misses a lot of the subtle things like slang, emphasis and inflection.
Then there are dozens of various accents in the U.S. depending on where you live here. The northern new england region (3 most north east states) is somewhat different from that of the mid west, or even southern new england (the 3 states right below northern new england). Go to the south and you have another accent entirely, several in fact. Then there's a very distinct accent that comes from one of the very most southern states, Lousiana (almost another language in itself) refered to sometimes as cajun. Go out to the west coast and it changes again.
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
8 Mar 10
I think a lot of people have more or less answered this. When a language is taught, any language, not just English, one learns the more proper, and formal language. For instance I studied Spanish and French. Now the proper way to say how are you? Is Como esta Usted? (In Spanish) or Comment allez-vous? in French, but rarely is one so formal in real everyday speaking, instead it might simply be Como esta? or Comment ça va? Also there is no real American English spoken if one considers the different accents due to different regions of America...a person from New York will talk differently than a person say from Georgia. Even UK English isn't the same as they have different dialects also
@Devilova (5392)
• Indonesia
8 Mar 10
This because American was a multi living, the combine from so many culture.And as we know that most of the people who brought English language to there was a civilian people.Not a baron are kingdom family are kind like that, so their grammar or style was different with the UK.
In my country Indonesia, exspecialy the Javanese.The language will be different between a civilian with a kingdom.And this brought until right know.
@kaylachan (71762)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
8 Mar 10
English in films is usually based on how it was spoken during the time it was made. Every day the way people speak changes seems like every ten years or so, slang has switched up and what was said once isn't said now. Quite often films don't depict how people actually speak, but rather how properally taught people should speak.
It can be difficult, but that's just how it is.