How many of us would be here without modern medicine?

@dawnald (85146)
Shingle Springs, California
March 9, 2010 1:25pm CST
I know I wouldn't be. When I was about a year and a half, I started getting pneumonia pretty regularly. Seems like every time I got a cold, I'd get pneumonia. If it weren't for antibiotics, I wouldn't be here. An online friend had surgery for appendicitis not too long ago. If it weren't for surgery, he wouldn't be here either. How many of you would still be here even without modern medicine? How many wouldn't be and why not?
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• United States
9 Mar 10
I don't guess I would, since they had to cut me open and take a tumor out. I probably wouldn't have healed without the antibiotics. That's where I faith is medicinally. (is that a word? ) See ya!
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Mar 10
Looks like a word to me! :-)
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
9 Mar 10
Your situation is exactly the same as my Mum when she was about 7 years old. She had whooping cough too. As for my Dad, he ruptured his appendix about 20 years ago so, obviously it had to come out. Neither person would've survived before the onset of modern medicine and surgery which is quite scary when you think about it. As far as myself goes I had my stomach pumped when I was about 6 years old due to taking aspirin (they tasted of oranges) that Mum had forgotten to put away into the cabinet. I've no idea what would've happened if a stomach pump hadn't been available or if I hadn't been rushed to hospital in an ambulance (something else we take for granted) and my hubby takes tablets to stop him from having fits...fits that can kill him if he fails to take his medication regularly. There are probably loads of instances but my mind has gone blank now. Great discussion topic as well Dawn, it will have us all thinking about the wonderful progress that has been made..especially in the 20th Century.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Mar 10
and I'd respond to that but TMI
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Mar 10
Next discussion, evil side effects of modern medicine.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
9 Mar 10
Well, in Dad's case it will be constipation, something he doesn't suffer with without meds.
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
9 Mar 10
I've never had anything major go wrong. Just typical antibiotics and such.. although I'm allergic to pennicillin, so if it weren't for the fact that they've discovered other antibiotics I may have perished long ago from your average ear infection. I have had 2 surgeries, one was to remove my gall bladder, which was not life threatening, just painful.. and honestly I don't think it would have been an issue back in the days before modern medicine, because gall bladder problems are caused by a high fat diet, which wasn't common back in those days. The second surgery was for an ectopic pregnancy.. I believe that could have eventually killed me if not removed. However, my ectopic was due to an IUD, which I wouldn't have had back in the day before modern medicine... so I'd just have a normal pregnancy.. again!! I'd be about 6 or 7 months pregnant right now... yikes! My daughter may not be so lucky though.. she had RSV as an infant and was hospitalized for 3 days. Actually 3 of my kids had RSV, but she was the only one who had it bad enough to be hospitalized. Her twin just took some of her nebulizer treatments for his, and my 3 year old needed a steroid shot to deal with his RSV.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Mar 10
None of my kids have had anything major (knock on wood) but neither I nor my husband would have been here to produce them!
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
9 Mar 10
I would not be here if it wasn't for modern medicine.I had a brain aneurysm in 2000. Most proplr don't survive or if they do they are a vrgatable. i'm very lucky they were able to do a procedure they call coiling on the aneuryam & stopped the bleeding. In 2005 i had to have carotid surgery. there again if they had not been able to do that i probably wouldn't be here because i had a big blockage. BLESSED TO BE HERE!
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Mar 10
Hooray for modern medicine!
9 Mar 10
H dawnald, Although I prefer natural remedies, I have to depend on my asthma inhalers, I have had asthma attacks a few times but the doctor told me I have to keep taking it as next time I have an attack, it will kill me, so I say tha my inhalers had save my life and still saving my life, I will have to take them as long as I live. Tamara
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Mar 10
I prefer natural remedies too, though there are certain things where conventional medicine is necessary...
@vandana7 (100617)
• India
9 Mar 10
I wouldnt be. :) I broke my crown, my two arms, and had tuberculosis. So you'd be mylotting with a ghost who writes. :)
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Mar 10
I think we're in the majority so far...
@Loen210 (1540)
• United States
11 Mar 10
Hands down, I wouldn't be here. especially during teenage years, ahd some major hospital stays with big medical treatments and medications (long and short term). I just wish they were as advanced for animal medical care.
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@Loen210 (1540)
• United States
11 Mar 10
When we spend more time on researching and having easier access to meds for them, then the prices should drop.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Mar 10
They're pretty advanced, but animals can't tell us what's wrong with them, and many people can't afford the treatments...
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
10 Mar 10
Dawny, I keep remembering my mom's sacrifice. She said it was painful for her to give birth and I'm guessing there were no epidurals or some sort back then. Or perhaps she wasn't aware or something. In terms of giving birth, I think medicine has totally advanced in this area. Imagine during our great grandparents time, when there's no such thing as a C-section... oh my.. how they must have been back then. -Gulps-
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
10 Mar 10
And for that, I will always respect women of all ages.. for their 'sacrifices'..
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
11 Mar 10
I think they are the same..
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
I don't know about epidurals, but in my mom's day and age they were given anesthesia of some sort...
@JJ4Ever (4693)
• United States
14 Mar 10
I think all of us could say the same because without medicine, a minor cold could turn into something life threatening. As I was reading your discussion, I thought, well I haven't really had any major medical conditions, but I have been sick. If what seemed like a small sickness weren't treated in the right way, it could kill a person. So...I guess we could probably all say the same, that we wouldn't be here had it not been for advancements in medicine. Thank goodness for it! Great discussion.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Mar 10
That's true too, in addition to the obvious things, little things could have gotten a lot worse. Not just for lack of treatment, but for wonderful things that they used to do such as bleeding people. And then there's the lack of hygiene back then...
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• Canada
10 Mar 10
Well, modern medicine has done without me for a very long time. I have not been sick much at all. I've taken a few painkillers for awhile as young, but that only resulted in my gastritis, as it chewed up my stomach. I haven't seen a dr. for years, actually. I only go if I am really ill, not like most people that are running to the dr. for every little virus that antibiotics do nothing for anyway. I've had every childhood disease, and never had any complications. I think I could have even delivered my own kids, with a bit of help, mind you. But overall, I have lived without it for the most part. Or only resorted to it rarely.
• Canada
10 Mar 10
Yeah, I figured I'd be in the minority. But I deal with illness every day out in my barn with all my sheep, so I am pretty well versed on medical issues and what a Dr. can and cannot do. And maybe my lifestyle change to living on an oranic farm has made me healthier, too. I certainly believe it has. Because I certainly used to get more viruses when I lived in the city. I rarely even get a cold, but maybe once a year now.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
I don't either but that's because my immune system is on overdrive and I have auto-immune issues...
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
One of the lucky lottery winners...
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• Pamplona, Spain
10 Mar 10
Hiya Dawn, I once fell on an empty Bottle of Coca Cola up Horseley Fields in Wolverhampton England. I was only five then. I had tripped over the Bottle it smashed into smithereens and I fell on the broken pieces and they most all of them were in my right kneecap I was bleeding profusely and it was pitch black so I had not seen the empty Bottle either. I got taken to a first Aid Room in an Iron Foundry Company nearby and the Nurse attended me there to stop the bleeding and then I had to go to the Hospital to be treated. They did treat me very well but I was so much in pain and distressed that all I could do was cry my eyes out all the time I was there. Then they sewed your wounds up with needle and black thread and I howled like mad the glass had gone in deep they did not give me any kind of pain killer. It seemed like an eternity when they did finish I sighed with relief and limped with my bandaged leg upstairs to fall into a profound sleep. I did have a very bad attack of Whooping Cough when I was very small too and it was quite serious but being wily and strong I got over it with the care of our Family Doctor a Bottle of Linctus was all he ever gave you then. When you finished that one another came after that. If it had not been for their swift action today I would probably be limping as the wound was very deep and wide and painful and lots of tiny pieces of glass inside deep down as I had fallen straight onto it. I still have the scar even now but then I think I was very lucky someone was close by that time.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
ouch...
• Pamplona, Spain
11 Mar 10
Hiya Dawn, Ouch would be the right description for that I cried the place down in the Hospital like I said there was no pain killer then. I don´t think anyone could have kept quiet with that stuff inside their knee. Then they stitched it up with black thread and that hurt like mad too. If a splinter of glass in your finger is painful imagine a half of a broken coca cola bottle splinters inside your knee ouch yes that would be the right thing to say while I was howling like crazy.
• Pamplona, Spain
13 Mar 10
Hiya Alice, Yes Alice the pain was excruciating to say the least and I don´t mind admitting I bawled my head off while they were taking out the numerous splints of glass and then stitching me up nobody put there arms round me far from it they were very cold and clinical they did´nt even speak to me at all except to my Grandmother who kept looking at me as if to say shut up. I had a deep gaping wound in my right knee full of broken glass but in spite of everything I don´t have a limp or anything today but I have a nice scar from one side of the knee to the other to prove it however I did behave myself sitting very still so they could do that arduous task of trying to free me from that misery. I am grateful for that at least I was not in the middle of nowhere but a bit of love might have done wonders as when you are only five you are wondering what the hell is going on. Every time I hear a child cry like that it´s still heart wrenching for me to listen to. It was an awful experience but they did make sure that I did not get any serious infection to top it all I had a nice big tetanus injection as part of the icing on top of the cake (grin). The wound was so deep it took ages for it to heal and for me to be able to walk around without saying ouch (grin). Take care now. Hugs Sue.xxx
• Bangladesh
8 Apr 10
Hello Ma'am, I'll be glad if I find that you're promoting natural/herbal medicine. I dislike adopting modern/allopathic remedy. I'm a great fan of herbal remedy. I pray to Allah so that I don't fall in such physical difficulty that require modern medicine. And it seems like Allah has responded to my prayer. If ever I fall in minor illness and I use herbal medicines and it works for me. Thanks to Allah numberless of times. Have a healthful day.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Apr 10
Modern medicine definitely has its uses. Think of the lives that antibiotics and surgery have saved! But I definitely think that if you have the choice between a natural remedy and a manufactured one, you should try the natural remedy first.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
8 Apr 10
Absolutely true!
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• Bangladesh
8 Apr 10
Yes Ma'am, I don't deny the contribution of modern medicines. But I always stress on 'Prevention is better than cure' policy which was followed by many people in ancient times. If we lead a honest and simple life we're less prone to diseases. May Allah keep you out of diseases.
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@pandaeyes (2065)
10 Mar 10
I had scarlet fever when I was very little ,I think that is the biggest illness I have ever suffered from and I have no idea if it is fatal in babies. There have been a few times when I have need antibiotics to help recover from infections. I cut a big bit off my thumb when my son was a baby and although the nurse patched me up, it was stinking after a week so it had got some sort of infection which needed the extra help of pills. I expect long ago, I would have lost the whole thumb.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
Scarlet fever can be fatal if not treated, so good that you were treated!
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
yup
@pandaeyes (2065)
10 Mar 10
Phew a lucky escape then :P
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@rosegardens (3032)
• United States
9 Mar 10
When I was 13, I had developed a doozy of an ear infection. I was hallucinating and couldn't eat for days. If not for the wonder of antibiotics I certainly would not be here. Very interesting discussion. It helps to recall the miracles of modern medicines and our humanity and thank God for His care for our well being.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Mar 10
Hallucinating, wow. Thank goodness they caught it...
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Mar 10
Yikes, at least they got it taken care of!
• United States
9 Mar 10
Ya, it was pretty bad! Of course it did not help matters that someone in my family pointed out that my brain could become infected and I would die. I have such nice family!!! EGADS!
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@KrauseHome (36447)
• United States
12 Mar 10
Many times in my life I have faced things and know without modern medicine to help out my chances for survival, or life for me as it is today would not be there. I was diagnosed with TB when I was 10, and was given medications and got better. Same way with the issue of Chronic wounds I have had to deal with from being Diabetic on and off for like 7 yrs. I would not have a leg if not for Prayer and medications. So Yes, no matter what we go thru this is something important for sure.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Mar 10
for sure!
@ladygator (3465)
• United States
10 Mar 10
I guess I can say the same. I had an umbilical hernia, my intestines were estrangled. That would have been fatal.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
We do seem to be in the majority!
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@whyaskq (7523)
• Singapore
10 Mar 10
I am not too sure but I believe I am one who would still be here without modern medicine. When I was sick, I go for traditional medicine. Luckily, I have had good health and life so far.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
Some of us have to be!
• Philippines
10 Mar 10
Hmmm. well, I haven't had any major illness or surgery in my life. But I guess, if it was not for modern medicine then I'll have a very different face today. It's not that I had a plastic surgery or something. But around 10 years ago, I was in an accident when my face got burned, it had 3rd degree burns all over it, my eyelashes were gone, my lips were burned, my cheeks and my forehead was also burnt. If it wasn't for medicines and a lot of creams, I guess my face today wouldn't be as normal as if nothing has happened.
• Philippines
11 Mar 10
Hmm. Well, I guess you're right about that, cause it can get infected and everything.
• United States
12 Mar 10
Well, the "Black Plague" wiped-out 2/3's of Europe back before Columbus discovered the New World.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Mar 10
Yes, indeed!
@libramie (562)
• Philippines
10 Mar 10
I'm undergone appendicitis surgery also when I was 18, so I'll took modern medicines to healed it. Then as of now I'm experiencing urinary track infection so I'll take antibiotics to medicate.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Mar 10
Those infections are really painful too...