Bachmann Urges Constituents Not to Pay Taxes!!
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
March 15, 2010 7:50pm CST
You can read and hear for yourself what Michele Bachmann said about what people should do if the health care reform bill gets passed in a way she says is illegitimate. Here is an excerpt:
At a rally at the Minnesota State Capitol on Saturday, Bachmann declared illegitimate the potential route that House Democrats could take to pass the health care bill. She was specifically railing against a parliamentary tactic by which the House could skip voting on the Senate bill by declaring it passed as part of the reconciliation bill. Bachmann pronounced this to be taxation without representation. "They have just started a revolution -- and they did it," said Bachmann.
"But mark my words, the American people aren't gonna take this lying down," Bachmann later said. "We aren't gonna play their game, we're not gonna pay their taxes. They want us to pay for this? Because we don't have to. We don't have to. We don't have to follow a bill that isn't law. That's not the American way, and that's not what we're going to do."
Bachmann continued. "Because it's one-party rule now in Washington, D.C. Their Chicago tactics, their Chicago friends, twisting Democrats' arms, threatening their own team members with ethics charges and a submission. This handful of people thinks they can enforce their will on 300 million Americans? They're not gonna do that. This is dictatorial, what they are doing. We are not compelled to follow a non-law just because Obama and Pelosi tells us we have to.
: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/bachmann-were-not-going-to-obey-health-care-law----we-dont-have-to-video.php
I thought her party hated "tax cheats". Does this mean that all Tom Daschle and others who had tax problems had to do was say they didn't think, for example, the war in Iraq was legitimate so, "I'm not paying the taxes because I don't have to!"? How do you think the IRS will react?
Annie
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
16 Mar 10
Annie, I'll be the first to admit Bachmann is a nut, and she is. But she really does have a point here. I know you'll support your party regardless of how they violate the constitution, but this is a disgusting and unconstitutional way of getting a bill into effect and it is quite literally pissing on the graves of the founders of this country.
I know you think the tea party people are so horrible because MSNBC told you so, but this is the kind of crap that caused the Boston Tea Party and it is just going to feed the tea parties right now.
FYI, cheating your taxes secretly and openly protesting an unconstitutional tax are two entirely different things. I at least have a measure of respect for people who openly protest a tax for ethical reasons. I'm not saying it's the best thing to do, but what are you supposed to do when the government is literally running amok and all three branches are violating the constitution in every way imaginable?
"Does this mean that all Tom Daschle and others who had tax problems had to do was say they didn't think, for example, the war in Iraq was legitimate so, "I'm not paying the taxes because I don't have to!"? How do you think the IRS will react?"
Annie, Daschle SPONSORED the bill to use force in Iraq. Now I wouldn't put it past the moron to do as you said, but everyone who knew anything about him would know he was full of $hit. Aside from that the war in Iraq was declared following all procedural rules and it was not illegal no matter how many times the anti-war crowd says so.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d107:S.J.Res45:
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
16 Mar 10
This has nothing to do with me supporting "my" party. It has to do with a member of Congress advising her constituents to break the law. For the record, I was just using Daschle and the Iraq War as an example and I guess I could have picked a better one but I know you knew what I meant.
I don't think all the "tea party people" are horrible and my opinion of them hasn't been formed by "what MSNBC told me".
Annie
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
16 Mar 10
Annie, there is very limited recourse for honest citizens when the government is blatantly violating the constitution that it is supposed to follow. You've already seen people use their freedom of speech to do that at town halls, tea parties, and anti-war protests. You've seen people try to vote out those they thought were the problem. Refusing to pay taxes may be illegal, but so is the procedure they're using and I have to believe you aren't so far up the DNC's a$$ that you don't realize that.
Refusing to pay their taxes is really the last tool people have in the realm of civil disobedience. After that... well beyond that violence could be the final tool. I'm sure you know how people dealt with tax collectors in the colonial days when they came to collect unjust taxes. It's not pretty Annie and it could get scary if the government continues on this path.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
16 Mar 10
"She was specifically railing against a parliamentary tactic by which the House could skip voting on the Senate bill by declaring it passed as part of the reconciliation bill"
Wait....wait..wait. Are you telling me you don't have a problem with that???? Sorry, I simply could not overlook that statement. You cannot possibly be able to look at me with a straight face and tell me you would approve of such a measure.
While I agree not paying one's taxes is pretty bad advice to follow in general, if a bill passes by such an alice in wonderland method such as Slaughter suggests ...it isn't law. There is simply no way around that, nor should there be.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
16 Mar 10
She is not the only one calling for it. Other elected officials have said that we should with hold our taxes...until the government acts responsibly with it. NO more BS ear marks, cuts the waste...etc...
But in teh same breath they also say if you do it be prepared for the IRS to come after you. It is called civil disobientance.
Once congressman even said for people to not pay their taxes until members of cabinet and congress paid theirs. that was when the scandel broke out about so many of them owing back taxes. He said to send the IRS a letter saying when "such and a such" pays their taxes... I will pay mine.
A small percentage doing it would not do anything. But if we all stoppped paying...well teh IRS can't come after all of us. It would get the governments attention. But I don't see it happening. Most of us have our taxes taken out of our paychecks automatically.
