What Is The Point Of The Ten Commandments?
By gewcew23
@gewcew23 (8007)
United States
March 16, 2010 3:32pm CST
If I was to say that the Bible is not a moral book that we should live by I would use Deuteronomy 22:28-29, If a man rapes an unmarried woman his punishment is 50 pieces of silver to the father and he has to marry the woman that he rapped. I am sure that two of my response would be,
Well that is the Old Testament, we live according to the New Testament now, or
Well what about the Ten Commandment, which all modern laws are based upon.
Instantly I see a contradiction, the Ten Commandment were written in the Old Testament, ironically by the same guy who wrote Duet 22:28-29.
Why do I bring this up well first of all my point that the best moral system is based on reason and logic not some religious book. My other point is that we have a large number of people that want the Ten Commandment posted in public places. Remember Alabama Chief Supreme Court Judge Roy Moore and his huge display of the Ten Commandment and all the people that came to his defense.
Well let us look at some of those Ten Commandment and see how many actually matter.
You shall have no other gods before me, well what about those that do not accept the God of the Bible as their God, or do not have a deity?
You shall not make for yourself an idol, well what about Icons of the Catholic, and Orthodox church? Still what does that have to do with daily law?
You shall not make wrongful use of the name of your God, well should someone go to prison for this?
Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy, the Sabbath is Friday night to Saturday night, should everyone stay home during the Sabbath?
Honor your father and mother, what if they do not deserve to be honored i.e they abused you when you were a child?
The next four are the only one's that actually have real world applications, kill, steal, commit adultery, and lying.
The next two are redundant, You shall not covet your neighbor's wife and You shall not covet anything that belongs to your neighbor. We just dealt with adultery and we just dealt with stealing. Also adultery is a bad thing but not a crime.
So if anything it should just be the Four Commandments. Still why would you fight to have the ten commandments displayed anyway, they are apart of the old covenant.
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@piscesgirl_1983 (45)
• Philippines
17 Mar 10
For me the point of the ten commandments is for us people to know the right way to go. Or it is a guide for us people to make good things.
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@blogsblog (81)
• Portugal
23 Mar 10
people already knew the right way to go way before religion or the 10 commandments. As for people to make good things i will just repeat the words steven weinberg once said: a good man will do good deeds, a bad man will do bad deeds, it takes religion to make a good man do bad deeds.
@bird123 (10643)
• United States
17 Mar 10
That rapist will have some hard lessons coming regardless of how man deals with it. Everything we choose in life comes back to us in time.One day the rapist will understand. As for the rest, there must be separation of church and state until the point God is really understood.People are so controlling of others, not to mention no religion really has God figured out yet.Our diversity and freedom along with interaction will guide the way to the truth. To control this learning system will only find you stuck, going nowhere.Consequences of our choices has always been the best teacher. The school of hard knocks, sometimes one must just attend to understand.
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@Galena (9110)
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16 Mar 10
the only ones I can think of that are important legally are not to kill or to steal.
but these aren't religious ideals. these are things necessary for a society to run smoothly.
again, adultery, to me, is utterly awful, and destructive, but I don't believe that it's the place of the government to interfere in relationship problems.
and a lot of the others are either irrelevant to the wider public, or downright offensive to those who don't follow that religion.
well excuse me I WILL have other Gods, thank you very much. MY Gods. the ones that have been with me throughout my whole life over one I've never met or experienced.
and it strikes me that a lot of Christians don't understand what an idol actually is, or how it's used.
some Christians say I worship Idols, and I've never used a physical image of my Gods in worship in my life. some people seem to think that an idol is a deity they don't believe in. rather than a physical representation of a deity used as a point of focus and worship.
and as for when an image is used. PEOPLE! when someone uses an idol, they are not worshipping an object. any more than when you post to someone on a forum you are talking to their avatar. you're not. you're talking to the person. the avatar gives you somewhere to look when you're thinking of something non physical.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
16 Mar 10
I do contented that lying does have legal aspect, like perjury. I would also place breaking contacts as a from of lying that should be punished. Adultery only in the accept of divorce. That would be the reason why I chose them in my four commandment. I would never make an argument that some one who committed adultery should go to jail, just should be punished in a divorce hearing.
As to the religious aspects of the ten commandments, they are not necessary for law or even morality. I am no expert in your religion but I am sure you live a very moral life. I cannot recall a time when you or some one of your religious aspect has done myself any harm. I cannot say the same about those of the Christian faith though.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
19 Mar 10
Hi gewcew, I agree that most of the ten commandments mean little today and the one about the Sabbath is specially correct. However in the time that they were written and for whom they were written, I think that it was a good set of rules. I don't believe that they were given by God but they show great wisdom for that time in history. Again I'll use the example of the Sabbath day because every human and animal who worked for another needed a day of rest. They should not be used generally today because it would be wrong to use laws given to Jew and also accepted by Christians, on those of another faith. Blessings.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
17 Mar 10
What is the point of the Ten Commandments? That's a big question and for anyone who isn't a Jew or a Christian, the answer is that they don't have any real point for you, except in the case of the four that you mention that deal with common law. But most people obey those because they are the common law and not because God said they should. Islam also recognizes the Ten Commandments, although they are transcribed slightly differently in the Qu'ran.
The original point of the Ten Commandments was for the good of the Israelites. Here there were a large group of people, recently escaped from a condition of servitude but it seemed to them often that they were better off in Egypt where life was still easier than trudging through the desert. God wrote these commandments to show them how to live in harmony and within God's law. In addition to the basics of not lying or murdering or stealing, if you are God, then the commandments about not having other gods or worshipping idols makes perfect sense.
"the best moral system is based on reason and logic"
I would argue that the best moral system is based on a deep understanding and acknowledgement that humans are special. We must recognize human beings as being endowed with certain inalienable rights, even if you don't believe that God was the source of that endowment. By nature, humans are entitled to be treated equally and with equal concern for those rights. We value our right to life, so we must not murder another who has the same right. We value right to property so we must not steal from another or we violate his rights. To violate the rights of another human, diminishes all humans. The Christian may say "love thy neighbor as thyself", the Libertarian simply believes live and let live, each to his own - but they both acknowledge the basic humanity that entitles the individual to those rights.
I don't believe that the verses regarding covetousness are redundant to those on stealing, since one may covet without stealing. If my co-worker has a new car and I drive a clunker, I may covet his car which brings up envy and bitterness, things that do detriment to my character. To covet is to engage in sinful behavior in the mind. Evil thoughts may lead to evil deeds, but even if they don't, they do harm to the thinker of such thoughts. God's laws are not there just to keep us from making God angry, they are there as a guide for our good, to do us good.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
17 Mar 10
As to a moral system that is based on reason and logic, I would contend that your Christian moral structure is still has some of my Libertarian live and let live. Take the Sabbath, Christian have moved the holy day from Saturday to Sunday, Paul's writing about women being silent at church, yet there are modern female preachers, and Jesus' teachings not to charge interest yet modern Christians work in bank, make loans, and even own those banks.
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
17 Mar 10
The sabbath, Paul's teachings and other subjects would require long discussions which I would love to engage in one day, but I won't do that here and clutter up your discussion with long responses on side issues.
To both of you I would just say that moral structure and even the modern, reasoned mind, must acknowledge that what we do affects others greatly, but what we imagine and brood upon affects ourselves. We must carefully guard ourselves in heart and mind to be the people we want to be and to do no harm to our own characters. Therefore, if I refrain from coveting my neighbor's possessions, I keep myself from experiencing emotions harmful to myself and necessarily keep those emotions from becoming actions and will not steal from my neighbor. Some of the commandments are good for society as a whole, and the rest are good for me whether they affect others or not.
@zoey7879 (3092)
• Quincy, Illinois
17 Mar 10
I'm not a Christian or a Jew, but that does NOT mean that they have no meaning to me.
MANY religions have similar moral rules to adhere to.
You do not have to embrace religion to exercise what really is ... well.. common sense.