Have you ever thought of moving and making a living in another country?
By zandi458
@zandi458 (28102)
Malaysia
March 19, 2010 1:32am CST
I was born and breed in my country of origin and never live in another country. But lately, I have been thinking of packing and go to somewhere, anywhere to live and spend the balance of my life in peace. It is a silly thought as many would think to uproot myself and discard all the comfort of life and the fortune I have built in the country that has been my home for 50 over years and leaving all my family and friends behind for the unknown. But it would also relieve me of the heavy emotional baggage that has been a torn in my flesh all this while.
I know it is easy said than done but nothing is impossible when there is a strong will to move ahead for greener pastures. Have it ever crossed your mind to migrate to another country and start all over again?
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@mjcookie (2271)
• Philippines
20 Mar 10
Hello.
Yeah, I want to do that in the US. But not in New York or L.A., definitely in peaceful provinces where the crime rate is low and where there are many trees. That would be the ideal place for me to settle in. I love a simple life, you know, not having to worry about bills and paychecks and other stuffd like that.
@faridmadeabillion (1127)
• Bangladesh
22 Aug 10
Hey ma'am,
I don't want to live in another country leaving my motherland Bangladesh. Because I love my country very much and wish to serve her to the best. I believe those who love their motherland will never find peace in another country.
Have a nice day.
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@faridmadeabillion (1127)
• Bangladesh
24 Aug 10
Hey ma'am,
Thank you very much for appreciating my feelings for my country.
I wish you a very happy, comfortable and peaceful life.
@lkbooi (16070)
• Malaysia
21 Mar 10
Hi zandi, I have never ever thought of moving and living in another country. I'm quite satisfied with my lifestyle here. What's more I always feel happy to have all my loved ones, relative and friends here. To me the most essential thing in my life is to get along with my loved ones and it doesn't matter where we are. In case most of them prefer to start new living in other country I will follow them for sure.
At the moment no one has such idea yet. I try to work hard to save enough expenses for oversea trip in different countries annually to explore the lifestyles and others of people in different regions of the world to widen my insight. I love my native land as well as the people I love here and I believe non of a place is better than my homeland
Happy posting
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
21 Mar 10
I’ve had similar thoughts myself zandi many times! I come from an immigrant family who came to Australia from Italy over thirty eight years ago when I was a kid and life has been good here compared to the old country but there have been times, as an adult when life got difficult and the temptation has come up to move away back to my birth country until a kind soul would remind me that running away from your problems is not the answer and realistically moving back to Italy would not be the ideal for me or my family.
Having said that, it does not mean that it is not the right solution for some, after all my parents made the right decision! I think it is a matter to make the decision over a long period and not impulsively and research every single aspect of the move positive and negative. Of course it pays to recall the timely advice I was given many times, “Wherever you go your problems come with you…” So if the move is to improve life it’s worth considering but if it is an escape, think carefully!
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
21 Mar 10
So you are not really an Australian? Since you have breath the same air as the original Australians for many years you are considered a neutralize Australian now. Italy is just a place of your birth and am sure you have almost forgotten your original language. I agree with you problems follow where ever we go. There is no where we can solve our problems by running away to another place but at least taking a short vacation can be a breather and problems halved, at least. I will be traveling to Brisbane for a 2-3 months stay in May, I might extend my stay if I like the place.
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@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
21 Mar 10
I haven't been to Brisbane but I have been told by my husband who has visited there, that it is a very nice city. I can still speak Italian because I speak it to my parents but my main language is English because I was only ten when I came to Australia. A two or three month holiday sounds fantastic! Lucky you!!
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@akuler (3531)
• Malaysia
19 Mar 10
Hi zandi,
I never dream to move to other country. I think my (our) country is the best from the rest. It is peace and harmony country even though we have a lot of races especially in Sabah and Sarawak. One or two cases that bring tension among the races is normal and it is much lower compare to the country which has just a few different races. The criminal record also low here.
If I had a choice I would prefer to be the kampung folk where everybody know and care for each other (even sometime they care too much - gossiping). They live their life in a very simple and harmony ways.
When we want to move to other country, one question would be "why". What is the reason for that action? Looking for a greener pastures? Do you believe you can survive there? You need to learn everything from scratch. Learn their language, culture and way of life. How if you can not get what you want there? Another move?
I think all this thing happen because we never appreciate with what we have now. Unless there is any major incident like war or natural disaster, I do not think I will go to chose other country a head of Malaysia.
Malaysia boleh.
Aramaitti tah ....
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
19 Mar 10
Like every patriotic citizens of Malaysia, we should live and die in our own country. I still adhere to that belief. I still love my country as we are one of the most peaceful country on earth with democracy being fully practiced. But there is no harm in experiencing life in a foreign land and feel how it is to be away from your roots once in our life. I think you too have uprooted yourself from your beloved Sabah and wonder whether you have any regrets. Aramaitti huh!
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@akuler (3531)
• Malaysia
19 Mar 10
My case is a different case because I still in Malaysia. Of course it is "oversea" since we need to cross South China Sea to be here from Sabah but still use the same flag, culture, language and so on and so on. It is just like move from one city to another. Even though there is no montoku and lihing here.
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@bystander (2292)
• Philippines
21 Mar 10
some 20 or so years ago, i was thinking of that. but now, i am in my fifties, the thought never crosses my mind. i am happy with what i have now. i have reconciled many of the challenges that confronted me before. all i need now is peace and the bare necessities of life. i've even stopped driving my car and let it sit in the garage for months now. zandi, at this point in my life, moving in another country is already not one the things i think about...
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
21 Mar 10
I wasn't ambitious when I was young compared to the present. I am in my fifties too but looks like the wind of change is taking place so suddenly. But maybe only a short stint in a place is enough to satisfy my urge to get away for a while from the boredom of life here. Before we are too old to travel, do it now when we still can.
@bystander (2292)
• Philippines
21 Mar 10
well, i think i share the same itchiness called wanderlust. actually, when our youngest graduates from college, i and my wife are planning to travel, perhaps a cruise...
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
21 Mar 10
It is hard doing it alone. My mother changed countries when she married and she found it hard having no support network, especially when her husband's family saw her as an outsider. She was English and my father was Australian but his family could never understand why he couldn't marry a local girl.
Now that is a change where they all speak the same language and where Australia was once a colony of England so it would seem to be an easier move than a country where the language was different but there will always be huge cultural gaps and it can be very lonely on your own.
I found it hard enough just moving to the northern most state as I no longer see my family any more. I cannot afford to travel south and they have never visited me. Still I love the place I live now. I am over 50 and would never change countries. I changed from the city to the country and have found just the right place for the future.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
21 Mar 10
Hi sharral, I understand the problems of language when moving to a new country. Getting adapted to the local situation might not be easy for some who are contemplating to relocate themselves in a foreign land. Loneliness is something we all experience when we live far away from our families. I will be going to Brisbane in May to be with my sister who will be lecturing in one of the university there and it will be a new place for her too as she is presently in Adelaide. I am looking forward to my visit there as it is my first visit to Australia and an opportunity to see kangaroos.
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@sharra1 (6340)
• Australia
22 Mar 10
Brisbane is a nice city. I hope you enjoy your visit with your sister. It is not so hard to move when you have family to be near to.
I live to the west of Brisbane and I love the area. My family still live in Melbourne but I moved with my partner and I am happy when I am. There are certainly plenty of Kangaroos around, we have some who visit our local golf course.
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@jdyrj777 (6528)
• United States
22 Mar 10
I have only visited other countries. I still think of traveling. But moving from one state to another within the country is hard enough for me. I would not move out of my country unless my children and grandchildren were going too. They are my everything.
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@jdyrj777 (6528)
• United States
23 Mar 10
It would be easier for me to leave behind mom, dad, sisters, brothers, aunts uncles and cousins. But i could not leave behind children and grandchildren. In fact since i was of legal age i have always moved away from my home state. But im settled here and both my kids and grandkids are where iam. So i consider this my new home now. Im here with the 7 people that matter the most to me in life. I can see them anytime.
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@alottodo (3056)
• Australia
20 Mar 10
Hi zandi I love your discussions you always put forward something worth answering to! I tell you one thing pastures are always greener in the other side, but... when you are in the other side your pastures look greener too!
I came to live in this country in 1973 and I can say nothing was easy as they promised us! I had my own heirdressing salon in my country but here I had to go and work in a factory! [ my english] was not good enougth then. To cut a long story short if I knew then what I know today I would not ever have left my country, I Am not richer or poorer and my children grew up without their aunts, grandmums,and cousins, yes fair enougth we are happy here, but still I ask myself today was it fair on my children? I do not live with regret because is pointless I take life as it comes, but given a choice? I would have never left my country.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Mar 10
Where were you from? If you don't mind telling me. That is the disadvantage of uprooting the whole clan to live in a foreign land. The children are automatically cut off from their relatives. But since you are happy in your adopted country, then that doesn't matter much, as the children can still visit their relatives anytime. I see that you are in Australia, I will be going there in May for a long vacation in Queensland where I have a sister there.
@alottodo (3056)
• Australia
21 Mar 10
I come from Uruguay [south america] I came here in 1973 and yes my children keep in touch with the family over there. I had my mum here for a visit so she could meet the 2 children that were born here and her greatgrandson. We had a wonderful time then they got along so well! with my mum speaking spanish to them and my children with their spangenglish, saddly my mum passed away 3 years ago at age 83 even now that power of strength is not there any more I Am greatful that she got to know her grandchildren and interact with then for 9 month!
zandi I really would like to meet you when you come to Australia that would be great! I have a friend that lives in the Gold Coast[ Queensland] and I would very much like to meet you there, just let me know when you are going to be there, looking forward to meet you!
@chiepao (714)
• Philippines
21 Mar 10
Hi there zandi :)
I have thought of leaving my own country and migrate. Not because I wanted to, but because it is hard to live here in our country. Poverty is really seen and it's easier to get a high paying job outside. True that it is hard to leave your own country but my family would be my first priority. Happy mylotting
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
21 Mar 10
Poverty is the result of the imbalance distribution of the country's wealth. Citizens suffer because of those holding the power of the country monopolizing the country's resources. If you have the opportunity to seek for better prospect elsewhere you should jump on it rather than living a life of misery.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
21 Mar 10
Go out and seek that 'pot of Gold' where ever there is vast opportunities. Work and enjoy life at the same time. Come home when you have reach the desired success in life. Truly there is no place like home. It is only right that we die in the country of our birth.
@Ingkingderders (3832)
• Philippines
21 Mar 10
I have thought about it a lot actually. Specially now that our country has this political tension and problems. Now I'm not really giving up, I'm just merely trying to give my future kids a better future. I guess I'm over being naive and thinking that our country still has a chance. I actually said to myself that this election can make or break it, I think the results of this presidential elections can have a big effect on what would be my final decision on living here or leaving this all behind and starting new in another country.
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
21 Mar 10
Vote for the right person who has the right vision to bring the country to a greater height and not a person who is opportunist and is only looking for opportunity to enrich himself and his cronies. Having a good leader would see better economic prosperity which make the citizens happy. The future of the children in your country is important. Let them not suffer in the hands of political tyranny.
@Ingkingderders (3832)
• Philippines
21 Mar 10
That's true. But with all the candidates, it's really hard to choose who is the best among them. I think we all have trauma voting for the most intelligent and has the best bio data in paper but has the worst work ethics of all, and a husband to go with it. I mean, you can never really tell whether their intentions are good or bad, and that's what's really sad about it.
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@msfrancisco9369 (10002)
• Boston, Massachusetts
21 Mar 10
Hi Zandi,
yes we are in the process of working it out to go to anohter country. right now we are just waiting for our documents to be approved and then we can go to the US for work and finally live there with the family. i am praying that we can live this year.
@msfrancisco9369 (10002)
• Boston, Massachusetts
21 Mar 10
Thanks friend. i appreciate your wishes for me and my family. thy will be done. god knows what is best for me and my family. in his time we will be making it there in our new destination.
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@Professor2010 (20162)
• India
24 Apr 10
lol i honor your feelings, you can certainly visit the country, stay there for some time, if you feel comfortable, you may continue, but i am sure you will come back, we are attached to our land will wish to die and cremated there, i am planning to visit Malasia and Philippines too with my wife, but will NOT settle there..
Thank you so much for this nice discussion,I am late in respondig, cheers
God bless you.
Prof
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
24 Apr 10
There is no place like home..where our roots are firmly planted and enjoy the comforts of people close to us. Venturing to the outside world is adding a new kind of experience in our life but definitely not uprooting ourselves for good. It is a pleasure to meet you and your wife if you visit my country. I am in Kota Kinabalu and a neighbor to the Philippines.
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@Shyam_cupid (157)
• India
20 Mar 10
no no no... i wont leave my country, but i lik to visit all country with my parents.. there s nothing special than mom's care, lik that there s no other country than my wonderful INDIA.. i luv my country.. but i saw some peoples moving away from my country, that time i ll feel more sad,. money s only a common and most important thing to move from owm country...
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@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
20 Mar 10
Yes, I have many times thought about it. Paris, London or any nice State in the US might be good for me. Great new experiences. I just realized that life is indeed super short, and if we don't have a chance to experience this all, might not be a pretty good life, eh. But then again, I'm always torn when it comes to love ones..they are not always there. So it's a dilemma, really. But if they all agree to migrate, that will be more cooler..
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@sulynsi (2671)
• Canada
20 Mar 10
I guess a lot depends on the reasons a person is making the move.
I live in a country where people COME to more than emigrate from. I consider myself fortunate to live here and I never really considered moving.
I would like to live somewhere warmer. In terms of culture, I think Australia might suit me, but I don't really have any need or desire to tear up my life here and move. My country is so large, just moving from one province to another, within the same nation, took us over 1000 miles from where I grew up. If I want a change of scenery, I could go about 3 or 4 thousand miles in the other direction and still be "home"!!!
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@myfb2009 (8296)
• Malaysia
19 Mar 10
Hi Zandi, i only have a few days experience of living in another country, when i go traveling during a few years ago. It was a holiday experience with my family members. Although it was a short experience, i do feel happy about it. I do feel it would be wonderful when we are able to travel and live in another country, to experience life in that particular area. But, when thinking of migrating to another country and stay there forever, i think i will choose not to accept it. Because i am sure to miss all my relatives and friends in my own country.
@veromar (1453)
• Argentina
19 Mar 10
Nearly 10 years ago, for such personal reasons as you state, I packed my bags and moved from my rent-controlled, midtown Manhattan NYC apartment, left my good paying job, healthy social life and blossoming career and headed South.....all the way to Buenos Aires, Argentina. There were a lot of personal factors in my decision to move here that I'd prefer to not discuss but I will say it's one of the best decisions I've ever made. Ever. Sure, there were a lot of adjustments....learning another language, customs, how to get around, cultural differences, learning about the foods, etc. To me it's been an exciting adventure that reinvigorated my life. This is my home now. I love it here. I've learned the language. I obtained permanent residency. I can travel to any country in the Mercosur without a visa. I've been able to visit the surrounding countries. There are a lot of pluses to living here versus in NYC. Sure...there are some negatives as well, such as the exchange of the Argentine peso to the dollar. The current exchange is $1usd to 3.87 pesos. A plane ticket to the States is about $1400 right now. Multiply that by about 4 and that's how many pesos I need to go there to visit family and friends. lol. Needless to say, my trips to the States are few and far between. However, it's very advantageous for my friends and family to come here! I've got people visiting every year just because of that exchange. At any rate. It's worked out for me. Was I scared? Sure. That's just human nature but my mother always used to say to me, "Feel the fear and do it anyway."
@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
20 Mar 10
Did you know anyone in Argentina before you moved there? As a woman, it is quite dangerous to move alone especially in a foreign land. Reading your experiences boost up my confidence to pursue something that I have only thought of recently. Thank you for sharing.
@veromar (1453)
• Argentina
20 Mar 10
Well....I've got to say that the majority of my family and friends thought I was absolutely nuts! lol. I did know 1 person and it was somebody I met over the internet in a chat room! I was invited for a visit, took them up on it, enjoyed myself so much that I went back to the States, tied up loose ends, packed my bags and moved here within 3 months of that first visit. Lol! Gutsy or crazy!?!? I don't know but I do know that it all worked out in the end. Zandi, I'm a BIG believer in acting on the opportunities that life offers up. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Just go for it! Follow your instincts, believe in yourself and anything is possible. If you actually consider moving to another country, check out some Yahoo groups for that specific country. I found a great one that is a group of Americans who did the same that I did. They've given me a wealth of information that could have taken me a very long time to learn on my own. Good luck to you in whatever you decide!
@quita88 (3715)
• United States
19 Mar 10
Yes, it has crossed my mind to go to another country and
start all over again. Truth is, Imoved from Oklahoma to Montana
just for that reason but Oklahoma and Montana are both states in
the US. but it worked to some small estent and like you I got rid
of some excess baggage for a few years.
Just a work of warning tho. You always come home. I did.
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@silverjapan (233)
• Romania
19 Mar 10
for me it's not a question if I will go or not, it's just matter of time until I finish collage.
Anyway, it's great to see you thinking as I do :)
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@silverjapan (233)
• Romania
20 Mar 10
I'm almost 21, and I had about 4 years of thinking and never had a doubt, I think I'm old enough and ready for it, I wouldn't wanna move when I'm old :)
Thanks for your concern though !