Officer Should NOT Be Punished!
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
United States
March 23, 2010 10:10am CST
I am tired of cops being called racist every time they have to arrest an African American!
A two-year police officer, 27 year old Brian Authement, may be fired for "using excessive force on an African American councilman."
But there WAS NO excessive force. Officer Authement subdued him the way cops ALWAYS subdue people (white or black) who are resisting arrest or causing problems.
Something the papers don't seem to want to print is; while officer Authement attempted to stop the councilman from going into/near a building that was on fire, the councilman hit (or hit at) the young officer.
So Officer Authement wrestled him to the ground and handcuffed him....there's NO excessive force there! Anyone watch cop shows? I've seen people get arrested a lot harder than that and it's still the right way!
You know the only way this was a problem is because the councilman cried "racism."
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14 responses
@BethTN81 (564)
• United States
23 Mar 10
Someone that throws out the race card by saying "It's because I'm black" is a racist in it's worse form. The officer will get crap from what he did but the "victim" is the true racist. If I went to town and got pulled over for speeding and did NOT get a ticket and went around saying I got out of it "because I am white" then people would call ME racist. Saying "because I am black" is racist too. Just my opinion.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
23 Mar 10
I agree with your opinion 100%
Calling non-racist people racist and just drawing attention to the fact that you're "black" or whatever, is taking racism to a new low. And it's going back on the person claiming racism...wow. That kind of sounds like gibberish to me! I hope it makes a little sense! lol
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
23 Mar 10
So he should have been aware of the fact that trying to hit a uniformed police officer was a bad idea?
@TrashQueen (107)
• United States
23 Mar 10
Actually, I think it goes further than to say "it was a bad idea." I think his circumstances and background would go completely counter to that idea. I don't think it would be in his makeup to offer that kind of resistance, especially given his recent surgery. Even under the duress of trying to find out if your handicapped neighbor is in a burning building, your own circumstances & survival & ingrained habits would be at play.
And I agree with Lamb. I haven't seen anything that points to "racism" in the article. And of course, I've only been able to find the one article. You say you have others, please provide them so I can read them & make an informed decision based on all the facts available, not just the one article. As it stands now, I'm only aware of the one point of view.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
23 Mar 10
Unfortunately that is how it is soemtimes, but not all the time. I know some African American who are not afraid to be held accountable and are very friendly, just like whites and then you have those who rebell, just like whites. The difference is I think is whites can't cry "racist" when they are caught.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
23 Mar 10
I guess if a white guy was arrested by ALL African American cops they could cry racism...but I don't think that has EVER HAPPENED.
You're right that some African American's who are arrested don't do this, and they are respectful and they know they did something wrong--but it just gets on my nerves whenever a white cop is called racist because he arrested a black guy!
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@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
23 Mar 10
lol I just haven't ever seen/heard of that happening. It's hard to imagine why...but I'm not complaining because that would just be more people I would have to think of as ridiculous.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
23 Mar 10
You know that is an interesting point Lily, what would happen if a white guy, arrested by a black officer, would cry out racism?? Very interesting..
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
23 Mar 10
I know there are racists out there, but it seems if you have to deal with someone of another color, it seems to come up. It is sad that this goes on. I do think that whites, can claim it too. It is to the point that we are not treated equal either. I don't care what color they are, no one should be treated any differently. That even goes for schools, and all groups. It should not matter. If he did not use excessive force, I am sure that the charges will be dropped.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
23 Mar 10
I don't care about color. I think everyone should be treated equally...and in this case the councilman was treated like any other person who resisted an officer (I even think he got off easy!)
I sure hope the charges are dropped! This happened where I live and I don't want 'my officers' being fired for ridiculous, unjust reasons.
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
23 Mar 10
I am guessing that the man thinks he is above the law by being a councilman and is using this to make sure of it. I don't think that anyone that lays a hand on an officer would expect him to just do nothing. There are surely witnesses to this that can stand behind the officer.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
23 Mar 10
I know! Not only is he the councilman...but make sure you also remember, he's black! *sarcastic* lol
I don't think anyone is above the law, even people who defend it. Thankfully most of them know where to draw that line.
I hope there are witnesses!
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
23 Mar 10
Hi LilyoftheThorns, I hope that the officer would not be punished too. I think that good sense will prevail in this case. If the police officer would have acted just the same whether he was a white or black person, than in my opinion its definitely not a case of racism.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
23 Mar 10
Exactly! If you hit a cop you're gonna get arrested! Common sense! I'm worried that good sense will be trumped by "we don't want to be seen as racists" so we'll make and example of this cop.
Like I said above, this happened where I live and I don't want good cops that could be out there protecting me and my family/friends getting fired for nonsense reasons.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
23 Mar 10
I'm gonna try to meet you halfway lamb...
It says the councilman asked the officer to go check on his neighbor and the cop told him to stay away....then the councilman went to ask the fire chief. MAYBE the cop wasn't aware that he got permission from the fire chief and only saw him disobeying his order. When he tried to stop him maybe both men got heated and then the altercation happened...you have to admit that's a possibility right?
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
23 Mar 10
I'll have to ask my brother where he got that piece of information. It may have been from his teacher (who is a cop) or he might now somehow because he's training to be a cop.
Thank you for meeting me halfway too lol! (I wasn't calling YOU sarcastic on your response. I just meant it felt like you were treating everything I said with sarcasm. I believe that you are 100% serious).
I just read another article and someone (I think the fire chief or the fire captain the councilman talk to) said that the officer wasn't aware permission was granted to the councilman, and the cop may have only seen him disobeying his orders to stay back.
@vivasuzi (4127)
• United States
23 Mar 10
I do feel people pull out the race card a lot and I think after all these years it's time people realize that people are people! Whether he was black or white, if he is resisting arrest they will get him to the ground. I have seen it done with all sorts of people. Even women get pushed down to the ground or dragged if they are resisting.
The people who do these jobs are very brave because they are putting their character on the line every day. Every day they have to worry about being judged for the way they went about something, and at the same time they often have to make hasty decisions.
Good thing there are a lot of black cops now, because they can't claim "racism" if it's a black cop doing it.
@vivasuzi (4127)
• United States
24 Mar 10
Yeah I know not everyone does it, just certain people. And it doesn't help that certain activist group are out looking way too deep into situations and usually the ones starting the allegations.
Yep now-a-days some cops may let things go or let people go just because they are afraid of how their actions will be interpreted. It probably makes it even harder to do their jobs!
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
24 Mar 10
Omg! The activist groups are the worst! They always blow things out of proportion and they bring too much, unfair pressure down on everyone that has to make the decisions.
I could never be a cop! I could not deal with the people and everything they have to do! But I respect them to the fullest for what they put up with and go through!
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
23 Mar 10
Thank you Viva!
It's extremely annoying/rude/ridiculous/etc when people pull the race card. It's almost like the people who do it think it's their right! They're drawing attention to the fact they are black and they are going to squeeze everything they can out of it. *AGAIN* I know everyone doesn't do this...I'm just talking about the people who do.
What's wrong with this is the councilman wasn't even being arrested in the first place, but he still fought the cop! Ugh! lol
Not only do cops put their characters on the line, they put their lives on the line every day! And it's absolutely ridiculous that they also have to worry about stuff like this.
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@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
24 Mar 10
The big deal here is he's a councilman. If he were just average Joe Blow it wouldn't make the news. I'm sure it will blow over as soon as witnesses say they saw him resisting.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
24 Mar 10
Well, the officer didn't know he was a councilman, and I don't think that should be relevant in this case because his being a councilman has NOTHING to do with it. But I still see what you're saying.
Thanks!
@DavidReedy (2378)
• United States
25 Mar 10
This is the America of today. Hey, one can't criticize Obama, Israeli military actions, or discuss immigration reform, let alone criticize the unconstitutionality of the recently passed healthcare bill, without being accused of being a racist. The race card is the great power play of the so-called "political left", the world elite, and any minority, real or percieved, now. Just try getting the ACLU or the SPLC to help you if you're caucasian, male, heterosexual, or even slightly Christian. This is reality, we are in an Orwellian nightmare where everyone is divided and willfully playing the blame game. Socialism is the name of the game, and crying "racist" is the current play.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
25 Mar 10
Wow...I didn't even think about that Obama thing but you're right...it seems like everything is about racism now. I HIGHLY doubt that the cop is racist in ANY WAY, and it's very annoying that people are calling him that because he arrested a black man.
I hope the world we live in today changes again!
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
24 Mar 10
Hi Lilyofthethorns,
Whenever someone claims that an officer used excessive force on them, it is normal procedure to put that officer on paid leave until the matter is sorted out. He is not really being punished. He is still collecting pay. He was in a situation where they have to make sure that he did not actually use excessive force. Most of the time, the cop gets let off the hook and quite often even when they are guilty as sin. my brother got beat pretty badly by the cops and for no good reason. The cop that did it stopped by the house and appologized to my mother for hitting her son. my brother brought it up in the hearing and as you can imagine they all stuck together. I'm pretty sure that you don't have to worry about your cop friend. I'll be shocked if he loses even a days pay out of hissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
25 Mar 10
It would be great if both sides had a fair chance to tell their story and that the court acts on the right side. Just saying, I see this a lot and almost always the courts will rule in favor of the cop whether he is right or wrong. The cops also need to realize that they are dealing with people that are drunk and high and often times they cause a situation to esculate rather than diffuse it. Not always the case but it does happen a lot.
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
24 Mar 10
Hopefully the truth will come out. Cops need to treat everyone with respect. The public also needs to understand that the cops have a hard job and not to fight with them. Whatever happened in this case, I hope truth will prevail. Cops do stick together and none will testify against a fellow officer. Hopefully the public will say the truth about this incident.
@writersedge (22563)
• United States
29 Mar 10
My favorite story is told by a friend of mine. He was sent a memo to answer to an inmate calling him racist. The officer sent a picture of himself and this response:
To which race am I alledgedly prejudice? (He included a picture of himself.) Notice my picture, the black tight-cut Afro-American hair, the dark skin, the Native American eagle-beak nose, the Asian eyes, and somewhere in here are my Caucasian ancestors; they don't show on my face, but I have some. So which part of me am I prejudiced against?
He didn't get another memo of that type ever again. He was sure that many inmates sent letters about him being alledgedly prejudiced, but he's sure they just kept photocopying the reply (except for his picture) back to the inmates that sent it in. Not everyone can reply with that, but it does show that they always play the prejudice card even when it makes no sense.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
29 Mar 10
LOL! That is a funny story. I guess that officer showed them, shut them up real fast!
Thanks for sharing, this story actually says a lot about this whole issue. People use the racist/prejudice card when they don't know what they're talking about!
@animegirl334 (3263)
• United States
24 Mar 10
I think people are very careful with police using force because there had been many people would faced unnecessary police violence and it has a history of being a racial thing. I don't know this Officer Authement. If he did not use excessive force, I hope he could get his job back but I think officers need to have the jurisdiction of what they can do and what they can't and some should be punished if they do something wrong.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
24 Mar 10
You're right--but I think this times have changed A LOT and EVERYONE needs to recognize that. When a cop arrests a black person now, it's not RACISM! That may have happened years and years ago, but times are very different. I think people need to grow up and move on with the times.
Thanks!
@frontvisions101 (16043)
• Philippines
23 Mar 10
i just read your description and i think you re right. that s unfair. but everyone will do anything just to not get arrested and they fell for it so i guess the african-american won this one. although it s a pity the policeman was charged. i bet he was so angry when he knew about it.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
23 Mar 10
They are calling for the mayor to fired the police officer...and I think that if they DON'T fire him everyone will just say it's because the MAYOR'S racist. It's a never ending, ridiculous complaint.
@mandybeau (279)
• New Zealand
24 Mar 10
He shd no way be called rascist, it is reverse racism, and it is becoming more and more common. It wouldn't have happened if white people had worked the Plantations, and everyone stayed on there patch. Here its Indians and Arabs and our own Indigenous people whinging racism.
All Cops shd protect themselves and the public first. So sorry I think he deserves a Medal.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
24 Mar 10
Thank you Mandy!!
The cop in this situation was kind of protecting himself AND the public at the same time (keeping the councilman away from the fire).
And you're right about the reverse racism! And I'm getting tired of it!
@rosegardens (3034)
• United States
24 Mar 10
The officer was attempting to stop the man from entering a burning building? So he was trying to save his life by subduing him. That is what he is trained to do.
I did not see the story, only your comment on it. It would be a shame if the officer lost his job if indeed he was only trying to protect the man from entering the building. Even going near it could have been dangerous, stuff falls off burning buildings.
Why did the councilman cry racist? It makes no sense to me. From your story, it merely seems the councilman suffers from entitlement syndrome.
@LilyoftheThorns (12918)
• United States
24 Mar 10
The councilman cried racism because he's black and the cop is white--that is IT!
Yes, this issue has evolved a little. Apparently the councilman asked the police officer FIRST about going to the building-after the officer told him no, the councilman went to a fire captain that was on the scene. The fire captain apparently gave him permission...now I'm thinking the cop didn't know the councilman had gotten permission. I think he just saw the guy ignoring his orders and trying to get to the building.
@adaox1 (65)
• Belgium
23 Mar 10
i just knew it that this problem isnt only in America,
here in Belgium this problem is even bigger i presume,
cops really get fired if they act a bit too hard on "foreigners", and believe me; they really don't act hard enough. but oh well who am i to say that.