I need a Guy perspective....

Philippines
March 28, 2010 4:08am CST
I am already at my wits end trying to understand my partner. He keeps on hurting me, lying and hiding things from me. Taking me for granted and even sometimes not caring about my well being.(Even if I had just given birth, he has let me do all the household works and even waking up on awkward times to take care of the baby.) I couldn't feel he loves me or even cares for me. (If this is how a husband must show love and care to a wife, I'd rather live with no husband at all.) I am physically tired as well as emotionally drain. Why he doesn't just dump me and tell me straight what he feels instead of doing this? Why he keeps on denying that love doesn't exist anymore and yet he is acting irresponsibly towards me as a husband? Are you,guys, really like this?
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18 responses
• Philippines
28 Mar 10
yes. there are some of us just like that. just straight up lazy. i think he s exactly like me. lazy, irresponsible, insensitive jerk. most of my ex s hate me because of that. i suggest you take the action. dump him instead. cuz i dont like me either.
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@urbandekay (18278)
28 Mar 10
all the best urban
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• Philippines
28 Mar 10
I like your being upfront. At least, you have the humility to accept such "liabilities". Change for the better is not that far anymore. I hope you have the desire to become a more "likable you" in the near future.:-) As for my hubby, just one more chance. It is not easy to just dump the father of your kids...Sigh.... All the best of luck to you, frontvision. I hope one day, I'll read a post from you stating you like you because of your good qualities..:-)
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• Philippines
28 Mar 10
Well, frontvisions101, since you realized that, I hope you change soon! X-p
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• India
28 Mar 10
hi eurekafemme i can only say that before whatever decision you are taking... talk to him directly... ask him what's his problem... then based on that you decide whether to dump him or stay with him...
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• Philippines
11 Apr 10
Hi there, Incognitomitr.:-) I have done all that. I am in the verge of leaving him but we have kids. They are the reasons why leaving him is not as easy as it sounds. I have no other option but to try to understand him.That is why I ran here for opinions that mat help me out understand my husband's odd behavior further. I am tired of giving myself consolations. I am almost resigning to the fact that men are like him in general. If so, then, I will rest my case and live the way I want to live my life even if he disaproves of it... Thank you for sharing your thoughts about this situation.:-) Welcome to my Mylot. I hope you will find this site worthwhile.:-)
@unuzzz (1273)
• Indonesia
28 Mar 10
hey eurekafemme .. sorry to hear what happened to you, i'm a guy, but i don't think your partner behavior represent the good guy behaviors.. sorry for saying this.. i had lots of married friends, and i can say, they did have a rough time during the early marriage life..but as time flows, most of the men grew more mature and had a big responsibility on their wives, children, and families.. well as you said before, your husband often lying, hurting, etc.. you should take the first action on this issue.. sometimes my father hurts my mom verbally, and my sister and i always stand up for my mom.. she's fragile and we're the one who will support her.. in your case right now, i believe you're the one who have to be strong for your child sake.. this might be difficult, but i think you two need to talk seriously about the relationship.. but to be in this place, you need to ensure yourself that you're ready for the worst thing to happen.. good luck to you eurekafemme, :D God bless !
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• Philippines
12 Apr 10
Hello, Inuzzz.:-) Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experience with me regarding this topic. Some guys do mature, some do not. Unfortunately, my husband belongs to the latter group. You are indeed right by saying that I need to be strong for my kids welfare. That's exactly what I am doing that's why I am seeking unsolicited advise here. Maybe, just, maybe, there is still hope for my husband if I can extend some more patience and understanding... We already discussed this matter a thousand times already but I just don't understand why he keeps on doing the same thing over and over again finding ourselves on the same spot years ago... I am prepared of the consequence, what I am not prepared of is the fact of seeing my kids hurt if this relationship will not work out.... Thank you, again, for making me feel I'm not alone. :-)
@syankee525 (6261)
• United States
28 Mar 10
well you know you've on my friends list long enough to know what i am going to say. he's a jerk, no this isnt how a real man treat the mother of his child, even still this is right at all. a real man would get off his butt and say you need your rest let me do it. i will jump right in and help my wife if she's not feeling good at all. even if she is alright i still jump in and house work, wash or whatever. i would say he keeps doing this because you allow him too, pack your stuff and leave his sorry butt. either one he will be on his knees begging you or he wont care. and is he begs he should prove to you is willing to change hiding things, most of the time means cheating. leave him
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• Philippines
7 Apr 10
Hello, my dear. :-) Thank you for the never ending support to my every discussion such as like this. You are probably right. I allowed hm to do this to me and made him feel that he is the only one deserving to be treated like human. :-( This scenario is not new anymore.And, knowing him, it is not his cup of tea to beg. He is more confident now to move on with his life because he is already earning enough. Thus, thinking he can afford or sustain all his needs even without my help. I'm glad to hear though that there is still a man like you who doesn't bother to do physical works. Kudos to you, Syankee. May your tribe increase.:-)
@1anurag1 (3576)
• India
28 Mar 10
oh i think as you have mentioned here your state is not good. i think only you can feel the circumstances there. but still i would like to say may be there could be some reason he is not able to share with you or if he shares he could give you trouble. so first try to be at your side. i think just try to show him that you are with him and always try to have a control on your voice and language. i think you can give yourself time of a month and i believe that every thing would be on track .
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• Philippines
7 Apr 10
Hello, 1Anurag.:-)Thank you for sharing your thoughts... I am tired of telling him things. I guess,I had shown him in every possible way that I am always at his side and that he can always count on me.What else does he need from me? I don't talk to him that much anymore. I feel that it is only useless to do so because I have been trying to talk to him about this for almost two years now but I don't see any improvement from his end... Maybe, I should rest my case...
• Philippines
28 Mar 10
us guys? we're dumb. and stubborn and we just need some really, really stern sit down session just make sure it doesn't sound like you're nagging or else he'll work out he just needs to realize he also has to do his part in order to make a relationship work... after all... he did go through all the trouble of courting you and dating you. Remind him of how he was at the start of your relationship and the things you like and appreciate about him. and then let him think. Make sure you're not mad, angry, exasparated when this sit down happens ok? and no crying if it doesn't work... he's helpless
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• Philippines
12 Apr 10
Hi there, Chipestekhan.:-) I like your humility. Only few guys have the guts to accept their liabilities especially in front of someone you hardly knew at all. :-) I used to tell him how he was when we were just starting out. But, he only replied with these hurting words "It is not about us anymore, it is about the kids and their future." Must I be teary eyed with joy upon hearing those words? I doubt because I believed differently. For me, it is very much still about us plus the kids and OUR future... I don't talk to him that much anymore. I guess, I am tired of making an effort to let him know... I do cry... I need to or else I'll be insane or die of heart attack... Thank you for sharing that reasonable thoughts of yours. In some ways and some other situations, it may help... Thanks..:-)
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
3 Apr 10
A man that loves you protects you and helps you in this time of need. A woman's body changes drastically when bearing a child. She goes through emotional turmoil and her partner needs to give her his support. This includes emotional support and even a helping hand in the housework. I used to wash the floor (and still do). And I try to give a helping hand from the best that I know. Both of us work hard, have stable jobs so both of us must give a helping hand in house chores. I think it is the time to have a good open discussion with him and try to explain to him that this is the time that you need him most. He must realise that his presence and help is needed most after having a child. Having children is a strain on a couple. So make sure that this does not break your relationship. Pray and I do wish you luck!
@ronaldinu (12422)
• Malta
11 Apr 10
Its nice to have a great body , it instills self confidence but physical appearance might fade as times goes by love and respect should not...
• Philippines
13 Apr 10
How I wish all men, married or someone in a relationship would think of love and respect the way you do, Ronaldinu... Lucky are those that are part of your family.:-)
@niitesh (1653)
• India
28 Mar 10
why just you tell him that you don't want him in you life, instead of being treated that way just ask him clearly what he want or just walk out of his life. It is much easier said then done but i don't see any other option for you. This is inhuman treatment and so why wait for him to throw you out of his life, just trow him out, may be then he will realize your true worth.
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• Philippines
12 Apr 10
I told him that I don't want what he is doing to me and the way he is treating me. The only problem I have with him when it comes to this is that he keeps on telling me that he is not doing anything wrong and that what he is doing is just "nothing" as he'd put it. I tried to leave him but he stopped me because I was taking our daughter with me. I couldn't leave without our daughter and if I leave, it is going to be a chaotic life for my kids ( worst, I just given birth). It is not as easy as it looks, indeed. maybe, one day he will see my true worth. I know... I am praying and hoping so for our kids' sakes... THank you, Niitesh.:-)
@jbrooks0127 (2324)
• United States
29 Mar 10
While it is true that some guys have a hard time expressing their feelings if they truly care they will show it. If he truly cared for you he would at the very least help you when you need it the most. While it is hard to say what is going on with him, not knowing him, there are certain things that men in love will do even if they are not use to it. There should be no lying and hiding things from you. This shows a complete lack of respect for you. Unfortunately some guys are good at taking their women for grated. That does not mean they care less but that, combined with other things is a pretty good indicator of how much they value you. If you have brought something to their attention and made it clear that he has hurt you but he doesn't change his ways....well it may be time for you to move on. If he does all these things and you are not even married.....do not even consider it. It will only get worse then. It is unfortunate you have a child. That complicates everything. But you must know that we only go through this life once and to be unhappy is just no expectable. To answer you final question.....no we are not all like that. When we love we show it and there is no mistaking it.
• Philippines
12 Apr 10
Hello, jbrooks.:-) Thank you for responding. It is a delight reading a comment such as yours. I often think that my husband does not respect me at all because of these odd behaviors toward me. And I often wonder why about... THere were times that he's try his best to help me with some stuff especially when he can get it through paying for it. But when it requires physical effort, I must not expect that he'd pull a muscle even for a bit. I am always vocal and honest about what I feel so it is not alien to him anymore that his ways have hurt me, he'd try to change for a couple of days but soon after we started to become ok again, he's back to his old lousy self... There's no way of turning back now even if we are not married ( but we are) because we have kids... I will continuously seek way to resolve this issue between us because I intend to get out of this misery soon and be happy. YOu are absolutely right, we only get to pass this life once therefore, I should live my life to the fullest and try to be happy... Thank you, Jbrooks. Have a wonderful day.:-)
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
29 Mar 10
Hello Eureka! I think whatever you have written about you hubby paints a sorry picture about him. If he actually behaves in a manner, as you have described, it would be really painful and hurting for you as a wife (or for that matter, any wife). I think every wife/husband expects that his/her partner should at least be caring about him/her. You need to speak and discuss with him that his behavior is making you feel highly disappointed. As far as I am concerned, for me marriage is a very sacred relationship and I feel I must discharge my responsibilities and duties, as a husband. May be if you happen to ask my better half about me, she may have different view(s) about me than I have about myself, however, in my hearts of my heart I know that I am caring towards my better half and my amily, in general and I do not feel like hurting anyone. I know I am not 'perfect', yet with all my virtues and positive traits, I try my best to carry on a relationship. All the best to you Eureka! Keep smiling! Deepak
• Philippines
13 Apr 10
Hello, Deepak. It is always a pleasure seeing you respond to my discussion. How are you, dear? I would have wished for a better man to be a husband if I have a choice but it is a lousy way out if I start to contemplate on that. And though he may be hurting me, I know in my heart that I should remain the loyal and faithful wife that I am to him. At least I still have my pride and dignity despite of the way he is treating me. I am thinking that these odd behaviors are just bi products of his being lazy and immature. He has no intention for sure to be this kind of person but since he is so used to being like one and saw that I am patient with it, thus, there's no effort to change in such a hurry.... You are agood person with a good heart, my dear. Your wife as well as your kids are lucky to have you in their family... Keep on, my dear. Have a wonderful day. Thank you so much for the well wishing. I wish you the best as well.:-)Jo-an
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
3 Apr 10
Leave him for a couple of months. Tell him you are tired of a mean husband. Come back in a month, and if he is the same, leave for another 2 months. No, not all husbands are like that. Unfortunately that doesn't help you now.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
8 Apr 10
There are some men that simply will not understand what they are doing is wrong, until they lose everything. I'd suggest counseling or marriage help. I think it is honorable that you wish to make this work. You have to remember one thing about men, that is different about women. Men respond more to action, than words and talk. Women will talk through something, and change based on what they talked through. But you can talk at a man until the end of time, and he may never respond to that. That's why I suggest you move out for a short time. Actions get through to men more than words. Perhaps that will wake him up that you are not happy with the way you are treated. However, if you feel you can't leave and come back, then I totally understand. I wish you the best.
• Philippines
11 Apr 10
Oh, yeah. Maybe, you are right. Men did noticed things when they were done than just heard them. I don't consider marriage counseling just yet. Though I'm in dire need of a help but my better half would not admit that he is doing something and therefore is thinking that we don't need any counseling. But, thank you for giving me a new perspective about men's odd behavior. Now, I can plan something better to make him listen. Thanks, Andy.;-)
• Philippines
8 Apr 10
Hello, Andy.:-) I tried leaving him before but he stopped or I must say, I let him stopped me. I wasn't ready to leave im yet because of our daughters. I couldn't bear to live without them. If I will take the girls with me, I'm pretty sure he will hunt us until the end of Earth. I don't want my kids to live in a chaotic way. Leaving him is not option. Part of me is still wanting to work things out between us.I need to understand his ways through other people's eyes to do so, but, sadly, majority here is telling me that it is useless. Leaving and going back is not my cup of tea also. If I leave him now, that means I will never return, ever again... Thank you for sharing your thoughts about this. Have a wonderful day.:-)
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
29 Mar 10
Hi eurekafemme, men in general are insensitive but it doesn't mean he doesn't care. Whether he like it or not he is already married, nothing can change that. I suggest, you just tell him how you feel but don't spoil him too far. Women can really manipulate a guy if they know where to hit the right buttons. Have you tried crying yet? if you haven't then try to cry your heart out and see his reactions. Suffering in silence won't do you no good.
• Philippines
12 Apr 10
Ybong, Thank you so much for the encouragement. I will try my best not to give up and be a little more patient to him... Yes, I do know that he is also suffering from this roller coaster ride kind of life we have right now... I will try my best, then... Thank you. God bless you.:-)
• Philippines
2 Apr 10
For the nth times,Ybong. In fact, I can no longer recall nor count the times I shed tears because of this... Whether he likes it or not he can't change that fact,indeed. However,he has the choice to ignore that fact and go on with his childish acts. He is just starting to live the life that he really wanted,hanging out with friends, meeting new people, enjoying his salary, and driving a car. He has something now that he can boast unlike before that he was just so ordinary.He is not ready to let go of it yet... He knows that I couldn't leave him because of the kids that's why he is confident to act like this. Plus the fact that he can afford to support his children even without me by the use of his money... Thank you, my dear for trying to help out...
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
5 Apr 10
It's not too late. Don't give up just yet. Remember that you're married and it should be worth fighting for. I think you need to have a serious talk about where the relationship is going. You can't just be both living the way you do now. If you are suffering, i'm sure your husband too. If separation is out of the question then there's must be a way where you two can come up with a compromise.
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
29 Mar 10
I'm a guy and if you really want to have your husband be reprimanded for what he is doing legally or I mean by seeking the help of the government, we could talk. But if you just want him to change and be responsible to your family then I can't help you further.
• Philippines
12 Apr 10
Hello, Basqui.:-) I'm afraid that is not what I want to do with my husband right now. I don't think or I don't consider any interference from the government or from any other institution for that matter. I want to resolve this matter as peacefully as we should with my husband. Thank you, though, for the offer to help. I really do appreciate it alot that you are willing to lend a hand just in case I need 0ne. Thank you, Basqui.:-)
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
14 Apr 10
Yeah, you really need to solve that for yourselves first. But you shouldn't be a martyr in the process, be wise too. If you are giving efforts to save the marriage then don't give yourself up by giving in to his likings or demands even if you are being a martyr already. Couples really have forget the past problems in the marriage in order to save it. But if those problems are really viral, or it is done despite the efforts for saving it then that marriage is not really meant to be. A swing needs two people in order for it to rock in rhythm, up, down, up, down. If one person is alone in the swing then she will always be down and the other side is always up.
• India
29 Mar 10
If someone goes and ask your husband what he thinks of you he might probably say the very same things you just said in your post. Do not look surprised. It is the truth. Another truth is that you both are bored with each other. You are bored because you both have become disillusioned. I can see you did not expect marriage to work out like this. In the beginning, the time you met him you had a picture of a loving and caring husband in your mind. Everything seemed so wonderful then instead of romance you found household work. A crying baby is taking up the time you both had kept aside to be with each other. It is same with him as well. I blame you both for the present condition. You were unable to take in changes, which comes with marriage in your stride. However, it is not the end of the world. Stop looking at the darker side of things. Think of the ways to add spice to your life. Begin to enjoy the household work you are finding so cumbersome. Get involved with the baby. Sit and talk to your hubby and tell him that you are genuinely interested in keeping this marriage going. Try to know what is in his mind. Make yourself attractive to him as you were before. Tell him that you love him and need him. Wait for him when he returns from his work. Plant a peck on his cheek whenever he goes out. Then see the difference; and come back and tell us all about it. I wish you well.
• Philippines
12 Apr 10
Hello, Achilles.:-) This is the most sensible comment so far that I have read with regards to this discussion. May be you are right. I was disillusioned. But, is it too much to expect a loving and caring husband? He used to be one? Why change to being liar and secretive? I do enjoy doing things for him and that includes the household chores. I don't mind taking care of the baby but my body can only take too much,thus, I get tired , too. I am taking pride in the fact that I have maintained my physical well being and that I don't smell like viand or any cooked meals at all. With the touching thing, I had stopped kissing him, I must admit, because i just don't have the motivation nor the inspiration to do so. Why would I wait for him when he isn't not informing me of his whereabouts and of his schedules.Waiting for him to come home from work is just like waiting for a soldier sent to war. You will never know when he'd exactly be home... THank you, Achilles. Don't worry, I'll try to do some of the things you've stated here. I will absolutely post it here if I got results.... Thank you again. Have a wonderful day.:)
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Mar 10
eurekafemme I am a woman but my hubby was extraordinarily attentive when I was pregnant both times so no I dont think very real men are like 'that.Have you asked him why he is behaving so irresponsibly towards you? Communication in a marriage is really so important. we can all get upset with each other but if we can keep an open line of communication going we can always talk things out. I would point blank ask him for his help as you need it with a new baby, and if he refuses point blank, I would consider at least a trial separation as nothing seems to be changing. A man who really loves you will want to help take care of you, does he by any chance resent marrying you because you were pregnant some idiots do do just that. they helped make the baby but resent having to be responsible for it. shame shame.Have you considered marriage counseling or is it a bit late for that? good luck God bless.
• Philippines
11 Apr 10
Hello, my dear. It is so nice to see you here in my discussion.Giving me such words of encouragement. :-) I do that. I mean asking him point blank of his help but I get tired of it since I couldn't do that all the times plus I don't have to "always" ask for something that is so obviously needing to be done. It is stressful already on my part asking him to do the same things over and over again. Say, washing our baby's clothes. Just two days ago, I had fever. And he took care of me. At least, he did his best to take care of me without being asked. I'm not sure if he did it out of duty or out of love but one thing is sure, there is still hope for my husband. For now, I will hold on to this small glimpse of hope before considering any counseling... Thank you, Hatley for always being a supportive friend here in Mylot. God bless you, too, my dear.:-)
@dr9rim (247)
• Australia
29 Mar 10
there are so many responses that tell you to leave. but i hope you do think it through before you decide. leaving a partner, living as a single parent is an extremely huge step. guys are generally like what you described. some, late bloomers, probably will stay that way for a bit too long before he really becomes a father. from your description i think he cares for you and tries to be a good husband for you. but maybe his parental instincts isn't developed enough i hope you can talk to him. dont turn it into a comfrontation, that would just lead to a fight. just talk.. tell him you're tired and doing everything is really stressful. and ask him to help out. dont expect him to do it because sometimes, guys just need to be asked for help.
• Philippines
28 Mar 10
How bout a woman's point of view? I'm an idealist, but I'm also practical. No matter what kind of person he is, no matter how different people are all over the planet, being lazy is one thing and hurting, hiding, and lying is another. Did you try to confront him? Tell him how you feel? Did you let him know that you feel unloved, that you feel tired, that it's pretty much unfair that you have to do all the work on top of having to take care of the baby? It sounds like you haven't opened this up with him. I know you feel like it's better if he leaves you, but I know that you love him and you don't really want that because you're trying very hard to understand him. Otherwise, if you've had enough, you wouldn't be asking for help. You would just go ahead and leave him. The thing is, opening up isn't going to kill you. For all you know it might help him wake up. Talk to him. Get him to sit down. Get angry if you need to so he can listen to you. You guys need to talk, and fast! That way the both of you can figure out what's happening and you can do it together instead of just you wondering why in hell is not doing what he's supposed to do. The best of luck to the both of you! :D
• Philippines
28 Mar 10
Hi, Apoljuice.:-) I am a vocal person when it comes to what I feel. I don't let anyone just guess what I think or feel. I did talk to him but he is so adamant. I often express my need for his help but he keeps on ignoring my needs.I have done everything but it was useless...I don't understand... With his being lazy, I am resigned to the fact that he will be like this forever. I already rested my case. But his lying and hiding things from me despite of the fact that I already told him how I feel about it, seems too much for me. What else do I need to do to make him see that I am not expecting a perfect partner of him but at least someone who has the balls to tell the truth. I'd be very happy if even for once in our lives he can do this. Besides, he owe it to me as his wife and mother of his kids. Thank you for trying to understand and help me... I truly appreciate it so much... God bless.
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@setsuna26 (2751)
• Philippines
28 Mar 10
Just as i told you in my last comment you should try to understand your partner some more eurekafemme ;) we guys have this difficulty of expressing what we feel most of the time thats why women sometimes feel that we dont even care. I believe your husband really loves you but hes having a hard time trying to express it. Why would he marry you or even be with you right now if he dont feel that way at all ;)
• Philippines
28 Mar 10
Hello, Setsuna.:-) I'd like to believe what you said here. However, my husband and I had a different story to tell. Maybe, love was still part of the reason why we got married but when you are on a family way and you are trying to give your child a normal life, marriage seems the right next step to it. I am also wondering why we still together despite of this. Well, he is the one paying the rent and legally speaking, it is his house that I am living under with him. He can't just kick me out because he can make use of me still i.e cleaning the house, doing the laundry, cooking ,etc. I can come handy when it comes to taking care of his kids as well. Aren't those good enough reasons why he still prefers to be with me. .
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