Who was the Pharoah? Help please!
By wonttakelong
@wonttakelong (3555)
United States
March 29, 2010 9:18pm CST
I have been trying to do some research and I cant find the answer I am seeking.
In the book of Exodus there is much talk about the "Pharoah" but never any mention of the Pharaoh's name. Surely he had to have had a name, right?
Which Egyptian Pharaoh enslaved the Isrealites, brought about the plagues of Egypt, and crucified Jesus?
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6 responses
@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
30 Mar 10
As the other poster mentioned it's been thought it was one of the Ramses and there were a bunch of them. As far as the crucifixion of Jesus, no pharaoh was involved with it, but yes the Pharisees and Pontius Pilate who was Roman
Okay just looked up good old reliable Wiki..LOL..it was Ramses II
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramesses_II
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@wonttakelong (3555)
• United States
30 Mar 10
wiki? seriously?
other sources say it was Amenhotep II
so I still dont know which one it was
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@pyewacket (43903)
• United States
30 Mar 10
Nuts I can't find the other sources..there were a bunch of them when I was looking this up but they did say Ramses II....also had taken a Egyptology course in college and always remember it was mentioned that it was Ramses
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@awapak (1275)
• Pakistan
10 Sep 10
Please see below my post no 10 and read what the Quran says about this person who was the king of Egypt and in his time Prophet Moses(pbuh)took birth and was brought up by the pious wife Asya of this king....Please read and tell what Jewish belief is there for this king.Thanks in advance.
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@sconibear (8016)
• United States
30 Mar 10
To answer your question, you need to know when the Exodus and the plaques of Egypt took place.
Unfortunately, like most bible stories, especially from the old testament, the time when these things occurred is of controversy, and debated, and therefore not really known for sure.
Anyhoo.........I don't think the pharaoh of the times of Moses has ever been positively identified, because as I mentioned above the REAL years when Moses lived have never been positively pin pointed.
Here's a couple of pretty good articles I found that present some of the different possibilities but nothing for sure.......They're pretty long reads, so break out the reading glasses and coffee.
http://www.ancientworlds.net/aw/Article/256460
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2008/02/Amenhotep-II-as-Pharaoh-of-the-Exodus.aspx
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@suspenseful (40192)
• Canada
11 Apr 10
I think it was Ramses the Second, but not too sure about it. The reason is that when a Pharaoh was defeated or had a whole lot of plagues happening to his people, he sort of kept quiet about it and if he had an adopted half brother who led an enslaved people out of Egypt, all records of that were erased. Only the victories and triumphs of the Pharaohs were recorded. It also could have been his son or his father.
The only way we can find out is to find when Joseph was in Egypt and go from there, but then he would have been known by his Egyptian name -so we have to search for when there were seven years of good and seven years of famine, but knowing the Egyptian mentality, they would not have mentioned the seven years of famine.
Oh the Jews namely the Pharisees and Saducees as well as Pontius Pilate, the Roman governor crucified Jesus and that was thousands of years after the Exodus.
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@sparkofinsanity (20471)
• Regina, Saskatchewan
30 Mar 10
The Pharoh isn't named in the Bible, and in actuality historians aren't really sure which one it was. I saw a show on the Exodus just the other night, and the closest the historians and anthropologists can come to an agreement on is that the Pharoh at the time was Ramses II. If you can pin down which one it really was, you'll be famous! lol
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@moonchild117 (1987)
• Philippines
30 Mar 10
Well, based on the movie "The Ten Commandments" by Cecil B. DeMille, the pharoah during the Exodus was Rameses. Just don't know which Rameses because there were a few of them...
I don't remember if there was a pharoah mentioned during the crucifixion of Jesus. I know there were Pharisees and there's Pontius Pilate, but I think he was Roman...
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@achilles2010 (3051)
• India
30 Mar 10
The first pharaoh of Egypt mentioned by name in the Bible is Shishaq (probably Sheshonk I), the founder of the twenty-second dynasty and a contemporary of Rehoboam and Jeroboam (1 Kings 11:40; 2 Chronicles 12:2 sqq.). The title pharaoh is prefixed to his name in the Great Dakhla stela—as in Pharaoh Shoshenq—which dates to Year 5 of his reign.
2 Kings 17:4 says that Hoshea sent letters to 'So, King of Egypt', whose identification still is not certain. He has been identified with Osorkon IV, who was a minor king at Tanis who ruled over a divided Egypt, with Tefnakht of Sais and Pi'ankhy.
Taharqa, who was the opponent of Sennacherib, is called King of Ethiopia (2 Kings 19:9; Isaiah 37:9), and hence is not given the title pharaoh, which he bears in Egyptian documents.
Last are two kings of the twenty-sixth dynasty: Necho II, who the Bible says defeated Josiah (2 Kings 23:29 sqq.; 2 Chronicles 35:20 sqq.), and Apries or Hophra, the contemporary of Sedicous (Jeremiah 44:30). Both are styled as pharaoh in Egyptian records.
Retrieved from wikipedia
@wonttakelong (3555)
• United States
30 Mar 10
retrieved from wikipedia?
you mean plagerised from wikipedia?
I am reporting this response
next time.... use your own words
or dont respond at all if you dont know the anser!
@wonttakelong (3555)
• United States
30 Mar 10
I have been here for 4 years!
I KNOW the rules, thank you!
you copy and pasted a few paragraphs from wikipedia and passed it off as a "response"
you added nothing of your own thoughts to it
you put absolutely NO thought into this response
as far as MY comment to you above goes...
I didnt violate any guidelines
I did NOT flame you
I merely pointed out that you had done nothing more than copy/pasted from somewhere else
I stated FACT!
No moderator in their right mind is going to fault me for pointing out the obvious
@achilles2010 (3051)
• India
30 Mar 10
If you do wouldn't moderator consider your comments as derogatory? Criticizing the other who has responded to your discussion tantamount to flame others. Its a violation to guidelines.. Moreover, I have posted from where I have taken the info, it is not plagiarized. Taking something without referencing is plagiarizing. Hope you will not repeat this. I am however not reporting.