Environmentals Beware

@gewcew23 (8007)
United States
April 5, 2010 3:15pm CST
We all know about the severe droughts that Southern California suffers from. During the summer residence have to limit their water usage. Quan and Angelina Ha of Orange, Ca came up with a way to save water, they ripped up their grass. Well that is apparently a crime, so the Has decided to cover their yard with wood chips, but this too is a crime. Apparently you must, by law have at least 40% of your yard cover with live plants. Those plants require water, which Southern California does not have. http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/02/local/la-me-bad-lawn2-2010mar02
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@uath13 (8192)
• United States
5 Apr 10
There's a little reasoning behind the ordinances. The roots of those plants help prevent erosion. By ripping them up the Ha's set up their lawn to be a giant dust or mud bowl ( depending on the season ) which in turn could be problematic for the rest of the neighborhood. A completely stripped yard could blow dust all over the place. Leaving the grass would have been far smarter even if the yard wasn't a nice pretty green. California needs to get on the ball with some desalination plants to deal with the water shortage problems but that's no excuse for people to do stupid stuff like this.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
5 Apr 10
I do not get why they striped their yard, if they did not want to water their grass then don't water the grass. What I do not understand is the part about putting down wood chips. Wouldn't the wood chip prevent a dust blow effect?
@uath13 (8192)
• United States
6 Apr 10
Wood chips would work for a small contained area. It would shift around on a yard with the wind & rain & the dirt would end up exposed anyways. Sorry, I'm the son of a horticulturalist. I grew up having to help out with this stuff & it sunk in.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
5 Apr 10
I agree they should have just let the grass die, but yeah, the woodchips should have prevented any dust blowing around. Frankly, if I had the money I'd just want astroturf for my lawn
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@jb78000 (15139)
6 Apr 10
i can understand the need to prevent erosion and dust, but why not encourage people to grow drought resistant plants? free cacti or something. lawns are perhaps not the best idea when water is short.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
6 Apr 10
You got me.
@jb78000 (15139)
6 Apr 10
i think my mistake was expecting laws to be logical. if the local council here are anything to go by nothing that makes any sense is allowed to get through.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
6 Apr 10
Do you remember, back in the day, a long long time ago, in a land far far away. People used to be able to chose what to do or not do to their property? No its true. People could plant grass, they could plant other grass, they could plant cactus. They could even plant food. I know, it sounds crazy, but its true. For the sake of time, I wont tell the whole story but just know that it involves a VERY big monster that feeds on people's rights. He just gets bigger and bigger, stronger and stronger. Then the princess gets her food stamps and never has to think again! Hope you sleep well.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
6 Apr 10
Wait, there was a time and a place when people had property rights?
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
6 Apr 10
a long long time ago and in a land far far away!
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
6 Apr 10
That law is silly. I can see a law where you can only water the lawn on certain days such as we have up here in the Prairies when there is a drought, but to say one has to have a lawn seems rather silly. I suppose that cacti are some of the plants not allowed.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
6 Apr 10
Well it is silly, but we are discussing California.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
10 Apr 10
I know what you mean. Up here, all the silly laws are passed in British Columbia and I used to live there.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
5 Apr 10
That's odd. It's so unlike California to have bizarre and invasive legislation telling people how to live their lives. [/sarcasm] You'd think that with all the problems that a$$backwards state has that officials might be trying to save money instead of wasting time enforcing such stupid regulations. I also wonder if there's an unknown agenda at play here. It reminds me of a small golf course where the owner kept getting cited and fined by the city because the trees weren't tall enough and had too much space between them. It later came out that the city kept going after him because his golf course was taking business away from one that was owned by the local government.
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
5 Apr 10
Yeah this story is California in a nut shell.
@jb78000 (15139)
6 Apr 10
when somebody gets into trouble for minor infringements of local laws it's often interesting to find out who reported them, or who chased them.
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
5 Apr 10
Looks like they need to change the city ordnances. The situation with lack of water isn't going to get any better as the population continues to grow, so the City better think ahead. The Ha's yard had some plants. I wonder how they determined that it wasn't 40%?
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@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
5 Apr 10
39% illegal, 39.5% illegal, 39.99% illegal, 40% legal awesome!
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
6 Apr 10
gewcew you always seemed to have a good understand of things this post surprised me. This is simple a way to get more money for the state and local community. You don't water your lawn and they can fine you, you water your lawn and they can collect the water and sewer revenue and then fine you for wasting water. I understand that they are considering a fine for polluting by breathing in air and exhaling pollution (CO2) and will set limits on the amount of CO2 that you will be allowed to exhale. They are looking for more was to tax people.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
6 Apr 10
Yup, next they'll tax you on how many characters you type on internet forums. In a state like California you can't rule anything out. More taxes is far preferable to less spending there.