Women may talk a lot but it is not that they reveal what is going on within -
By kalav56
@kalav56 (11464)
India
April 6, 2010 2:19am CST
I heard someone say this -“The fact that women talk more than men does not mean that women are revealing what goes on deep within their minds”-.Do you agree?
Let us try and keep the discussion objective and I request all not to take offence.Please share your opinions and observations.
Thanks in advance for your responses.
Please bear with me if there is a delay in my comments.
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35 responses
@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
8 Apr 10
I agree with the quote you give. Women talk a lot, probably too much for most men.
Many women are not sincere in what they say; many are catty or gossipy in their speech. Many does not mean ALL. My experience is that men are more direct in what they say, but, again, that does not mean ALL.
@avani26 (1518)
• India
6 Apr 10
I fully agree with you. Woman do talk a lot but it is not possible to know what is going on in their minds. It is a fact so I really do not feel that anyone would mind. I have lot of friends but not many would know much about me and I have just 2 close friends who know everything. We can really talk about anything not just cricket and news as Men tend to that is why we are more interesting than our partners.
@kalav56 (11464)
• India
6 Apr 10
We have different areas of nterst and when we come to terms wiht this it becomes easy for us. I talk to ht emen in my house about some topics that are of common interest because I have cultivated an interest in theirs.Howver, when the topic is not intersting then I do my own thing like reading or browsing.
@angelajoy (1825)
• Philippines
7 Apr 10
I so agree with this! Most women, when they are feeling strong emotions, don't say directly what they want to say. For example, if they tell their boyfriend to leave, they really mean "don't you dare leave!" It's quite confusing. I'm considered by many as a very straightforward person, but I still can't help hiding what I really feel when it comes to my boyfriend. It's because when I'm feeling sad, angry, or just annoyed, I want him to be sensitive enough to understand what I'm really feeling even though I don't tell him.
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@akuler (3531)
• Malaysia
6 Apr 10
Hi kalav,
I think it is because women like to share everything with others while men does not like it very much. They talk but not to the extend what women usually did. Women is a sensitive God creature which need someone to hang too. They feel happy to share their problem with others in hope it would solve their problem or lessen their burden.
Men, on the other hand, prefer to keep it all with themselves. They have an ego and feel shy to share their problem except for certain people that are very closed to them. And they rarely told the whole story. They will keep the sensitive and personal part.
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@hagirl (1295)
• United States
9 Apr 10
I think women talk more to keep them from going on rampaguses like men do.... Women do not hold their feelings in like men do..... If a woman has atleast one person to pour their problems out to then you can pretty count it as therapy for them.... I think it is also stress reliever for women....
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@getbiswa2000 (5544)
• India
6 Apr 10
Hi,
Well, uhm, I don't think it depends on gender at all. Some people talk more than what is usual. Some people are awkwardly curt. Some people talk less but talk beautifully. These people are so splendid speaker that audience actually wait eagerly for their speech. Now, the problem with women is that, they still have many vulnerabilities. I mean, they can't expose themselves as we can. But even then, how many men you see around looks like an open book? A man who is simple and spiritual, will only speak his mind. Spirituality makes one courageous. True faith makes one invincible. This is all a mental framework that can't be built overnight. Person who have fewer contradictions is expected to be less of a hypocrite. How can someone be clear and candid to you, when he is not sure about it himself? He is always feeling unsecured and weak. That is exactly why he wouldn't dare to reveal himself in front of everybody. Now, sometimes people want to put themselves as charismatic by creating an environment of magic and mystery around them. This is a different case. Simulated charisma like this don't last for long. Low self-esteem is another cause for this behavior. It is true that most women I see around me don't reveal herself which I think is somewhat justified. I still don't think it is gender specific.
God bless you
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
6 Apr 10
WELL SAID BISWA.When we talk less , we are able to listen carefully and our thoughts would also not be muddled.My husband has absolute clarity of thought and for him everythign is as simple as black or white.He won't allow himself to wait for too many parameters to assess a situation.
@kalav56 (11464)
• India
6 Apr 10
Thanks biswa for the participation and for adding your excellent views to the post.I agree that there may be men too who would be like this and that is because men , speak less than women as such isn't it? So, the idea was that though women tend to talk a lot it is not that they keep revealing what is deep within their minds.[WE can talk about a number of things and half the time we also tend to do some loud thinking.But,a s you ahd rightly pointed out women are generally instinctively insecure and so probably they are careful with what they reveal.This would naturally happen with outsiders.You have brought two new issues , about low self esteem and also vulnerability.I do agree that this may also be the case.
@getbiswa2000 (5544)
• India
6 Apr 10
Hmm. This type of behavior can be tracked from the body language. If you see a person blurting out incoherent and irrelevant sentences, about things that are no importance to either of the persons involved, you know for certain that this person is not being candid. He is having some thoughts deep inside that he is trying hard to conceal from others. I talk less but only when I am engaged in something or in an unfamiliar environment. Now, it doesn't mean that I always talk, even when silence is appreciated. That would have made me a terrible speaker. I have seen that to be a good speaker one has to talk less and think clearly and of course, has to be open and frank. All these traits of human beings are so interrelated that it becomes quite difficult to distinguish the reasons and requirements for a certain behavior.
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
6 Apr 10
I am not sure. Being garrulous does come with the risk of being evasive and extrovertism. Which is why most people (not women alone) tend to speak out their hearts and minds, revealing what's going on inside. There could be exceptions but I don't remember having come across one.
BTW, I talk less and talk little about my heart unless I share a certain kind of vibe with the person I am talking to.
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@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
6 Apr 10
Sorry for the little error (??) there, I meant 'invasive' in the true sense of the term.
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
6 Apr 10
When you are talkative, one finds it difficult to be evasive.Being an extrovert is something I can understand but really talkative people cannto be very evasive because their talk cannot go on for too long then.I find that when I talk too much I am less evasive and I answer all questions faithfully.I have to restrain myself and keep quiet if I am in the midst of inquisitive an d unnecesssarliy nosey people.
And for the last part I think it may be true in most of us.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
7 Apr 10
Sometimes it's a good thing, sometimes not so good...
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
17 Apr 10
First of all I don’t think there is any point in generalising. Women usually do talk more than men although I know a couple of guys who can talk the legs off a table! (LOL) It does depend on the individual and the situation; I think that women are much more prone to speak about how they feel and what is going on in their minds then their male counterparts. Sometimes women may not reveal all to males because they have the futile expectation that he should just ‘know’ which experience has taught me is not always the case! Men lack the intuition to understand females and the sooner a woman learns that about her man the easier life becomes; a man needs to clearly hear and understand what is going on as they don’t get ‘hints’; not a negative dig at men, it is just they way they are, they are not like us.
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
17 Apr 10
Women do talk a lot but I feel that though men also do not reveal what goes on wihtin their minds this statement is generally made with regard to women[a woman's mind is a mystery blahblah stuff ]essentially because by the general rule we talk a lot and so probably people expect to get to know a lot .
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@Roseo8 (2947)
• India
6 Apr 10
well it has been proved beyond all doubts that references like "women are more talkative" or that "empty vessels make the most sound".....are just myths and there is not an iota of truth in it...........Women today have proved their mettle and have emerged stronger and capable in all fields that they have ventured into....be it house keeping,bringing up kids,bringing in a second income,paying the bills and what not......Actually they have proved their efficiency in all that they do,and are always busy multitasking,that they hardly get time to talk a lot ....and infact making it possible for their better halves to relax and be more talkative....Dont you agree Kala.....
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
6 Apr 10
Noone can deny it Rose that women are much better equipped to handle so many things, have great multitasking capabilities etc.
Unfortunatley, the fact about us beig more talkative has also been scientifically proved .But if you objectively analyse, are all women always open?[This is only in relation and in proportion to the way they talk-Read Sandhya's answer and it is pretty objective.There are no aspersions cast on our capabilities.I just wanted to know if women have hidden thoughts also.I can say I am a straightfrward person who cannot keep secrets from my family but I may talk a lot to others without revealing all thta goes on within my mind.Don't you agree?We would talk to everyone and that too for hours together but there may still be some thoughts within.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
6 Nov 10
I really don't think that this is the case at all when it comes to women. I know that for me, I have to tell almost everything that I know to at least someone. I've never been comfortable with keeping something to myself. Based on what I know about my friends, I would also say that they are likely to share everything that they know with someone as well. It just seems to me that it is the way that women operate in my part of the world.
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
16 Nov 10
That is a very clean and straight approach dorannmwin. I also talk a lot and am an open person.But, life has taught me thta many people are different. WHen you are among similar people it really does not matter how open you are but sadly , in some parts of our country and in some circles, I do not see too much of openness. I am trying to change my earlier behaviour of being very frank and open and am finding it difficult. THis sometimes leads me into trouble.
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@megamatt (14291)
• United States
6 Apr 10
Yes there are a lot of women like that. They tend to talk about everything and anything and the inner workings of their mind tend to remain a foreign concept to many. Granted, to be fair, there are some men like that but not too many. They are a rare breed but it is not completely impossible. Still women are more associated with this behavior and for good reason.
There are times when you just have to read between the lines. And sometimes read between the lines that you are reading in between of with women. A man and a woman can be having two separate conversations, even if the content sounds the same to an outside, neutral observer. It is all about interpretation but in the end that is not a gender thing, that is a human thing a lot of the time as well.
Still yes, women can talk quite a lot without saying anything. However, that does say more than you think in some ways, if you really think about it. They are obviously communicating something, but it is not being picked up properly. However, deep in their brain, there is something going on. Just pity the fools who are not able to even come close. It makes some people want to bang their head against the wall in frustration.
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
6 Apr 10
THat was what I also heard that women are associated wiht this behaviour much more than what a man is."Not being picked up properly"-well I suppose a man would have his difficulties because unless somehting is spelled out they cannot understand and it would become an emotional overload for them if they have to keep reading between lines .They would prefer a direct approach and be done with it. I have received some emails and read quips about the way men shop or they recount an incident.And for the last sentence it is probably because they are not trying hard enough-Just a joke
@angelajoy (1825)
• Philippines
7 Apr 10
I agree with you megamatt. It's because we women want men to be sensitive enough to understand what we're feeling that sometimes we don't say directly what we mean. Instead, we just give hints and hope that guys would pick them up.
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@khalida (1126)
• India
6 Apr 10
this is very very true! women talk about a lot of things which they might think about on the surface of their heads.about shopping,products,brands,friends,guys,habits,hobbies they love etc etc but they would never say anything deep except for the ones whom they are close to :)
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@khalida (1126)
• India
7 Apr 10
yes but with women, the way they talk they make it seem like that's al there is to them, its harder for others to find out if something's going on in their heads. whereas i don't think the same applies with men. . . u can say that he is keeping a distance :)
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@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
6 Apr 10
Hi Kala,
First of all, I really don’t understand such genderized comments…women talk more…do men talk less? Women gossip more, do men gossip any less? Women back-bite, do not men back stab too? LOL…you understand of course that my comments are all in good humour and nothing against our male counterparts…in the same lighter vein, I’d like to add that such generalizations are applicable to everybody and not any particular person or gender. Also, how much people reveal in their discussions, depends on a lot many factors like how close you are to the person you are talking with, how comfortable you are in sharing your personal life, how simple or crooked you are in interacting with others and so on! I’m sure you understand…so my take on this discussion is that I don’t agree that women keep their inner thoughts to themselves all the time…rather I’ve found many women All India Radio LOL
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
6 Apr 10
I knew that thsi would put the back up of some people and would elicit a reaction like "don't men talk?"-
Unfortunately women are wired to have more words at their disposal an d this gives rise to these genderized remarks Sudipta.But, one thing we have to agree. We would talk a lot but it is not that we are always totally open because we are saying so many things on an issue.We may stil have somethig else within..And I do agree women are the first to go blahblah and be an AIR.[thIS may be greater in revealing other people's stories--this is from my personal observation of a close person who would be secretive with her own news but most liberal in painting other people and spreading gossip. An artist would be put to shame.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Apr 10
hi kalav56 I think most of us women do talk a lot but I know I do not reveal all thats going on with me, as for one thing, I am a reserved'and
rather protective person in that I will not share all my inner feelings with just any one.I have to know you first before I am going to open up at all. Why should we have to tell all, after all who wants to read a book if someone tells you all the story, leave something to make people come back. I find that when I become real friends with someone then I am much more open to them. We reveal in layers to our friends and our husbands and maybe they like this as we do not overwhelm them.
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@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
7 Apr 10
Hi kalav! I think that women might like to talk alot and that
is true, but what they talk about is alot of different things!
It doesn't always have to be about revealing "deep dark secrets",
although sometimes it does!lol Women just always have alot of
things like to share whether it be about fashion, plans they
are making, children, family, or just plain gossip! It can be
any number of things, but women generally just like to get
together and talk! That is just the normal thing that women
do when they get together! It doesn't have to be about anything
important or earth shattering, it is just fun to be with friends
and enjoy sharing whatever!
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@yugasini (12893)
• Secunderabad, India
6 Apr 10
hi kalav,
that is common,most of the ladies are talking more,that is a known truth to every body,they cannot keep secrets,that will be passing one to another,nothing if affiance here,you have said what is going on and about women,but now a days,women are concentrating on education and their career,so they do not have much time to talk with others,have a nice day
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@piya84 (2580)
• India
6 Apr 10
Hiii there,
There is nothing offensive in that.You are right actually.As a women yes i talk more than many men,not all i think.I have seen many men who talk continuously and irritate like hell.
As a women yes i dont talk whats going on deep in my mind its because not all people are good and some time they come to know my weakness and they do take advantage of it in future to make me vulnerable for their own good.I open up infront of my loved one only.
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@kalav56 (11464)
• India
7 Apr 10
Excellent response and I agree totally when you ssay thta we are naturally careful wiht all people but are sure of our loved ones.If men keep bragging or talk continuously[to the extent of their doing the major talking] it would naturally be irritating.THanks for the participation.
@umabharti (3972)
• India
6 Apr 10
WHY only women are pointed out.Men also do such things .They never tell what is going within them.Men wait to know the mind set of the women,while women dont think with their minds they have feelings .Men do have the same feelings but little the mind also comes when compared men with women.
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