Brain Drain vs Sania Mirza being 'drained' to Pakistan.

India
April 7, 2010 10:54pm CST
One cannot say now whether Sania will become Pakistani later. But suppose she becomes a Pakistani later do we lose so much as a nation? I don't think so. (This does not mean I want her to marry a Pakistani in the first place.) My concern, however, is about those Indians who studied in our IITs and other institutions with huge subsidy from the government, through out taxes, and later choose to settle down in the US or Germany etc. and sell their well trained brains to foreign companies. Sania became famous because she worked hard. But these people could study because of government's subsidy, though there is this element of themselves working hard too. Who do you think does more harm to nation's economy? If we are upset with Sania should not we all the more upset with these draining of Indian brains to foreign countries?
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• India
8 Apr 10
Let me first say that I disagree to the fact that Sania became famous only coz she worked hard…in a country like India obsessed more with the face than with talent, she became famous more due to her pretty face…compare her stardom with Saina Nehwal and I think you’ll agree! Yes, brain drain is definitely a big problem and we lose more in that than in Sania…however, the other day I was reading an article by an eminent economist settled abroad on this issue…he says that in the west, universities vie with each other for the best brains by offering lucrative salaries, independent research opportunities and other sops while in India, there is a uniform slab of remuneration for all professors…which is definitely unfair to them. We don’t encourage, recognize or nurture merit, rather our focus is on a uniform mediocrity so that students from all sections of society can avail of these university opportunities. Of course when a university pays huge remuneration to its faculties, it generates that amount from the students…something which most middle-class Indian students cant afford! And of course our bureaucratic interference is legendary alongwith our crabby attitude…its really very difficult for us to retain our best brains unless there is a tectonic shift in our higher education policy and govt. attitude.
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• India
8 Apr 10
I agree that her look has contributed to the fame factor. I was taking the hard work part only to compare with others whose success story depends much on govt's initiatives. I agree that foreign countries offer a much more comfortable life than India. But is not that the reason why we should stay back? To work for the poor and the hungry. We study not just only for myself and my family. We study even for others too. So there has to be this universal factor for the reason for our pursuit of education. Even in India life can be okay for those who are hardworking. So I guess if we are unhappy with Sania we should be all the more be unhappy with those who've migrated abroad after having earned educational qualification with our taxes.
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• India
9 Apr 10
I’m sure you know the cost of higher education in India these days! Even for one child, if we want to make him/her study further with medical / engg / IT / MBA / or any other worthwhile degree, the parents from middle-class families have no other option but to take hefty bank loans or to invest their life’s income…all for working for the poor! Do you mean to say that middle-class parents are working their butt off for their children's future only for charity while the politicians and govt bureaucrats in their tinted AC cars and free everything, siphon off all our tax money for their own future generations! Today if I gamble with all my savings for my son’s future and if he makes it good, I’d be the first person to support if he doesn’t want to return and work in India…you may think of my as anti-national but I’m being brutally honest here. How many of our kids are brilliant enough for subsidized scholarships? The rest just have to dole out huge amounts to make a worthwhile career…this is not USA where any job is good enough and will pay for the family’s food…this is India where one has to have a respectable career and also earn good money if we are to have a decent life. Quality of life is not cheap here unlike the west…its deteriorating further with constant devaluation of money.
• India
10 Apr 10
I agree that life is expensive even to have a decent average standard. But do you think these guys who go abroad will not be able to make money sufficient to pay back their loan and also live a decent average life for few years by working in India? I think they can. Pardon me for digressing to make my point, but I know so many Christians who got very very good education and yet go to some village as 'missionary' or join NGO to help the poor and serve them by starting schools and health care centre etc. Many times they are thrashed for alleged work of conversion, without bothering to think twice how much hardship they have to endure for having to work in such remote places in spite of such good educational background. The point I want to drive home is that people with good educational background are working to serve forsaking lavish lifestyle. I am not arguing that all of us should become like that. If some can go to the village to serve, I would say great, even if they do conversion activities. But many of us can remain in cities, get decent salary and live average Indian life. If one is from IIT/MBA kind of background the package received will eventually propel one to a different lifestyle after some years. It's just one has to struggle some bit in the beginning little bit. I don't consider your viewpoint as anti-national. I think it's very realistic and very normal. I guess most Indians do that. But for me I want to argue that we struggle for few years as we pay back our loan and so on by working in India. That way our contribution will be great for India. At least for me and my wife, that's the stand we've taken! Thanks for being honest. Regards, Headhunter525
@vandana7 (100282)
• India
8 Apr 10
Hi headhunter, that is a nice analysis, and come to think of it, it is very true! It should be made mandatory for people settling abroad to pay back the amounts spent on them plus interest and additional damages (lost time for training another person). Sania is fading, so it is hardly going to make any difference to us, since her record to date will indicate that she won it as an Indian. But a guy like Shoiab? I have nothing against good Pakistanis, and I do believe Wasim Akram, and Zaheer Abbas are men with strong characters. Shoiab. :) She has effectively divided the local muslim community into Ayesha group, and Sania group may be. What did she see in that controversial guy? He cant even speak two sentences perfectly in English! The guy is way below our Indian girl's standards! Does this alliance mean our muslim guys are not good enough for her? Or does it mean that Pakistani girls are not good enough for Shoiab? He keeps returning to this place. First reaction was of course shock, hurt, and disbelief. Mind told me Mirza is possibly getting even with the Pakistani cricketer for what he did to Hyderabadi girl. But now, I am accepting it. May be Mirza will foster good relationships between the two country. Who knows, anything can happen. :)
• India
8 Apr 10
Or what about Mohammad Kaif! He is not bad looking either. I think there might be some Khans in Bollywood too.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
8 Apr 10
Yes Kaif too, and he is good in running between wickets as well (hope he is not good in running between wives the way Shoaib Malik is ). Presently which Khan in Bollywood would catch your attention? I think Javed Akhtar's son seems intelligent, and then Aamir Khan's nephew. Sania sure needs to see eye specialist at the earliest.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
8 Apr 10
Brainoutstitutes may be? Personally, Irfan Pathan is a whole lot better looking and much better behaved boy than Shoiab. He also has better English accent. Agreed he might be slightly younger, so what? :) I would have tried that match. :)
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@bubbletush (1332)
• Philippines
8 Apr 10
Your discussion caught my attention because I know Sania Mirza, the pretty tennis player from India. It was a surprise really that the pride of India is marrying a Pakistani. I somehow expect her to be married to someone in her country too. Although it is sad that such things happen, Sania found love from another nation and I think it is her choice to settle where she wants. Same thing happens in our country where the brainy people migrates to the US or another country for greener pasture. Some of them are state scholars. I think losing the citizens of the country this way is much more sadder than losing a citizen because of getting married to someone from another country.
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• India
8 Apr 10
Thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts. I think many Indians are upset because the guy is from Pakistan. Had it been from Philippines or Russia or some other country people would not be so upset. India thinks that Pakistan keeps manufacturing terrorist to destroy India and take Muslim dominated India's Kashmir. But as you rightly think I guess we should be more upset about losing brain power than an individual.
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@anurag3786 (6267)
• India
9 Apr 10
I also don't think.. that this is a better decision from Sania.. because all of us know of Pakistan's situations that Pakistan is not a good country.. and also it is difficult for Sania to play for India after marriage.. have a nice day and keep mylotting always..
• India
9 Apr 10
Yes, India is politically and economically more stable. Pakistan seems to be a good breeding ground for terrorists. And that is not good for Pakistan and also for the world. After marriage Sania may quit tennis as she may need to bear kids for Shoaib. Why for Shaoib? Because Muslim society has more of patriachy!
• Bangladesh
9 Apr 10
i think sania may be not interest to bear kids after her marry......
@Jotomy (6322)
• India
8 Apr 10
Sania does not have patriotism against her country. No love for her mother land. I feel she is selfish.
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• India
8 Apr 10
What about those who have migrated abroad after having educated themselves with your and my share of money? Don't you think they are less patriotic Sania? Don't you think they are more selfish; and love their mother land less than Sania? I think they deserve stronger criticism than Sania.
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@ramp123 (191)
• India
8 Apr 10
This is a purely personal opinion. I am a great tennis fan, and I think Sania Mirza is highly overrated as a tennis player. She got lucky in her first couple of seasons, and went up the rankings, but as time goes on she will eventually hit her real ranking, which I think is around 200. She has no qualifications other than a (small) glamor quotient, and it will be no loss to India one way or another if she becomes a Pakistani. You are right, the drain of people who studied in IIT etc., is a much more serious issue. I am from IIT myself, and a lot of my classmates went to the US immediately after graduating. I'm probably a rarity, a guy who stayed back and worked in India. The good news is, a lot of people are now deciding that India offers as good a work environment in many ways, and are staying back. There is also a "reverse" brain drain happening, that is, qualified people are coming back to India. Let's hope this trend continues.
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• India
8 Apr 10
I agree that she is overrated. May be the facts that she does not look that bad and also the fact that our female players are few contributed to her apparent fame. It's unusual to find IITians who stayed back in India to work for the people. You are a rare person. I hope the trend continues as this is a more serious case than one Sania migrating to Pakistan.
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• India
8 Apr 10
Yes, there are people who are returning. But still I would say the rate of leaving is higher than the rate of returning. I quite agree that we need to give back to society. I also studied in one of the best colleges in India, and I position myself in a sector where I can help maximum number of people instead of going for money. I know I am paid sufficiently for my living and so I chose to work where I can help. Same thing with my wife who graduated from a very fine medical college as a pediatrician and now working with 20% of what she could have got if she works in a private hospital who will then be catering only to the rich, and leaving out the poor.
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@ramp123 (191)
• India
8 Apr 10
Well, the trend has begun, and I personally know two or three people who have come back. The other very good trend that has begun is that senior people in their middle or late fifties from IIT's and IIM's are quitting their high paying jobs and getting into charity work, working with NGO's, etc. I think that educated people like us, not just IITians, but people with a good school and college education, decent jobs, are the highly privileged 1% of Indian society. We need to give back to our country. I work as CEO of a charitable eye care hospital for a salary that is 20% of what I would make in industry. However, the satisfaction is immense! Everyone can do his bit, some more, some less, but it all adds up. We all have a duty to do whatever we can, we can't just leave it to the Government to fix everything.
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@1anurag1 (3576)
• India
8 Apr 10
i think earlier we were facing a problem of braindrain. but now i think it is not a big problem. even from the brain drain from IIT and other better institution India i providing a kind of professional services to all over the world and a huge foreign currency is sent back to india. even if all of them stay here i think they would not have got the position here and oppertunities. now also we are seeing a reverse brain drain. so now its not a matter of thinking. i think if one sania mirza goes. a big number of better sania mirza will come to replace her. yes she could lose her career being a citizen of a country like that.
• India
8 Apr 10
But the money sent back by skilled labourer is just a tiny fraction of their income. Whereas the unskilled labourer really send back their hard earned money and so they helped their families. We have shortage of skilled labourers in India. It's the unskilled ones we have so many. And these skilled people earned their degree at the expense of the taxpayers' money. Anyway, thanks for writing.
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