who gets picked on in your country?

@jb78000 (15139)
April 8, 2010 9:30pm CST
racism exists everywhere but some groups get nastiness more than others. for example here in scotland people who look middle eastern might get hassle, blacks certainly do not and if you have far eastern features you'll probably be fine. i noticed hispanics in the states get a dreadful time. when i was there i got it myself (i am short, dark and had a tan) and the idea of friends getting abuse just for looking spanish really upset me.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
9 Apr 10
This may not be the case in every state in the U.S. but there are plenty of areas, other than Miami, where hispanics are looked down upon. When my husband and I first got together and were deciding which house to sell, he felt that selling his was the best option because "Mexicans" had been moving into his neighborhood and he was sure real estate values would go down as a result. They were having a very negative impact on the construction trade in the MD/DC/VA area...day laborers hanging out at Home Depot and Lowes stealing jobs from Americans. Here in south central Florida there's definitely a problem when it comes to some folks and their attitudes towards hispanics. My daughter, swtjenlove, started a discussion a while back about an incident they were involved in on the road with an off duty deputy who mistakenly assumed that her fiance and his brother were spanish or cuban. After yelling ethnic slurs and making threats, he displayed his weapon which is when they called 911. He was pulled over in our county...by deputies who know us...and arrested but beat the rap. Many of the hispanics who live in Florida work in the agriculture industry and are perceived as dumb. Folks don't pick on the Seminoles or the Haitians as much as they pick on any of the variety people of spanish ancestry.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
9 Apr 10
"Folks don't pick on the Seminoles or the Haitians as much as they pick on any of the variety people of spanish ancestry." Depends on the part of Florida for that one. In Orlando black people typically despised Haitians. If someone did something foolish it was a common insult for one to say to that person "What are you, a Haitian?". The same behavior was pretty common in Miami as well. It always seemed like the language issue was what caused much of the racism towards Hispanics (along with the gang activity). I would always hear people complain about people that didn't speak English or who weren't fluent in it.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
9 Apr 10
Yes, taskr, the language issue is cause for tension here, too. I was actually pretty disturbed when I first moved here and was looking for a job, that I was not qualified for some positions that I was technically over qualified for...but I only spoke English, so I was out of consideration. I believe the same stressers are true for with the Haitian/black American population.
@jb78000 (15139)
9 Apr 10
that is shocking spall - i didn't realise it got just that bad. i always recommened to latins planning to go to the states to be careful but didn't realise that just not being blond could get the same reaction
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
9 Apr 10
There are more legal and illegal Hispanics in my area than there are white, black, Asian, etc. So, I'd have to say us "minority" folks are the ones "picked on". If you're not bilingual (or have a Hispanic surname), you'll have one heck of a time finding a job. And after you find a job, promotions seem to go to Hispanic males...
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
9 Apr 10
I have to jump in here, I do not live where Hofferp, but my state is close to hers. Our county and city government will not hire you unless you are bilingual, pig latin doesnt count I asked. Her point of the surname is right on, Martinez come to the front of the line. I see this all of the time. And this is in public sector. I have missed out on jobs because I dont speak enough Spanish. I'm just saying....
@jb78000 (15139)
9 Apr 10
doubt it hofferp, although it can be true that people give jobs to family members i don't think somebody arriving in your area with the surname 'lopez' would be more likely to get a job than the surname 'wilson'. i also suspect that racism towards hispanics exists.
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@hofferp (4734)
• United States
9 Apr 10
Thanks, Laglen. JB78000, you'd think that would be the case, but it's not. I've lived here over 45 years (I'm 40 miles from the Mexican border), and it's getting worse, not better. It use to be more evenly split, Hispanics versus Non-hispanics, but as more children are born to legal (and illegal) Hispanics (than Non-hispanics) and as more people cross the border illegally and stay in the area, the number of Hispanics now well outnumbers the Non-hispanics. And with that, more jobs go to Hispanics, and as I've personally witnessed, promotions go to the Hispanic males... I worked in the public sector for over 30 years, and Affirmative Action was alive and well for Hispanic males.
@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
9 Apr 10
Who gets picked on? Mostly the poor. Yes, it is different ethnicities in different places. And yes, we have some criminals and often they are in gangs of one race or another, but it has always been that way. In public schools, it is the new comer, or anyone who is remotely different.Special needs, behavior disordered, birth marked. In some places, it is the Christian, others it is the Muslim, or the Pagan. In the state where I grew up, sometimes it was the Native American (and I looked a lot like that, if someone was looking for it). People with accents other than British are picked on or made fun of as well. Sometimes it has been the Lutherans picking on the Catholics. Anyone who appears weak or different is picked on
@jb78000 (15139)
9 Apr 10
bullies look for the vulnerable. sad but true. incidently i had a bit of fun in the states looking hispanic (tan), but speaking english with a lovely british accent. nobody ever bullies bunnies without being made fun of, just wish i could follow all my friends around and jump on bullies
• United States
9 Apr 10
I agree that the poor are most "picked on" and blamed for things they are facing. The classic book "Blaming the Victim" really details how this has been around for generations in a country that values productivity so much. On a lighter note, a local town, known for how locals are poor and tooth-deprived or dentally challenged. How do you know toothpaste was invented there? Anywhere else they would have called it teethpaste. What has 32 teeth and 64 legs? The lottery line at the town gas station. Hope this helps - -
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Apr 10
hi jb ye old blue bunny the illegal mexican aliens may get picked on here but they are really criminals as illegal means they snuck across the border and take the few jobs that are now up for grabs by thousands of Californians out of work. they drag down the welfare system and they brought this on themselves, so no I do not feel one damned bit sorry for them. let them come here as legal citizens and I will hold out a hand in friendship but not illegals, with their gangs who kill all the time just to get their kicks and brag up their gangs. I have no fault with any Mexican who comes here legally , I am not racist just against illegals sneaking in here like the criminals they are.
@jb78000 (15139)
9 Apr 10
hatley, don't get so angry. yes people sneak across your border but they are not baddies - just trying to get a better life. i am however talking about people that go to the states legally and get a horrible reception which upsets me
9 Apr 10
Scotland used to have a terrible problem with racism of islamic and black people but although it's still a problem it's not as much as a problem now but that's still not good enough. In England there are people who have a problem with Muslims which really bugs me because not every muslim is a terrorist.
9 Apr 10
Apparently Black People make up 0.16% of the Population of Scotland so not a lot but it's more about their views on other ethnicities generally. I totally hate it. Racism has no place in the My world.
9 Apr 10
I believe they are mostly older West Indians who moved there some years ago and have gone on to have children and grandchildren there. There are more younger mixed race people than Black people in Scotland so some of them are taken into account.
@hexeduser22 (7418)
• Philippines
30 Apr 10
Upon reading other responses I've learned that it was in Miami where you got those nasty looks and stuff. My biological father lives in Florida, I just don't know where in Florida. If I have a chance I will ask him about this kind of stuff in there area, that's if I ever have a chance. Anyway in the Philippines I don't think we get to discriminate people here in our place, maybe because we are used to being discriminated ever since. I remember there was a drunk foreigner, I think he was Australian because of his accent, entering the airport. He was in front of me in the line on the entrance and upon the security check of the lady guard he suddenly said "Suck this! It's a bomb" The head guard talked to him after that and release him afterwards. If I were the head guard I would surely put him in jail. You see some still had the nerve to do such a thing even in our own country....
@jb78000 (15139)
2 May 10
i got it a bit but more noticed others getting it
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
15 Apr 10
I think it depends on where you are located. Personally, I think the best cure for racism of all kinds is to have a college town where people come from all over the world. People in college towns seem to not only tolerate each other but they also learn from each other. I was raised in a college town and have now moved back here and there really is no picked on group. I also noticed that in Philadelphia, some of the best neighborhoods were the totally integrated ones around the University of Pennsylvania and Drexell University. They've been integrated by the colleges for decades and enjoy some of the highest appreciation to city real estate. The neighborhoods that redlined and discriminated are now among the worst in the city. Alledgedly they discriminated to keep their property values high but the effect was just the opposite. I guess this sounds a bit simplistic but I really think people should take a good long look at the areas surrounding established colleges and universities. Those areas can teach us a lot about the dynamics of racism.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
9 Apr 10
Lately it seems the worst of it seems to be being dished out to people in the patriot movement. WE are ridiculed, called racists, rednecks, neandertals, knuckle dragging apes and all other manner of nastiness. It is often said the patriot is in the minority and brutaly ridiculed in any revolution. And this ridicule is not only from individuals, it is institutional. We get it from the whitehouse and others in government, most of the media, activist groups and other establishments. I'm sorry by the way your experience in the u.S. was in Florida. Next time, try somewhere like the mid west or northern New England...much nicer and friendlier parts of the country.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
10 Apr 10
Yeah, it's a sad day when supporting the constitution makes you an enemy of the state... Florida really isn't bad, just parts of it (Miami). Orlando is a much friendlier place and pretty much everyone there, aside from criminals, treat everyone including tourists well as tourism is how they get paychecks. Disney, Universal, and the hospitality industry are all huge there.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
9 Apr 10
I'm thinking immigrants, especially illegal ones, and muslims, or people who "look like" muslims.
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
10 Apr 10
Yeah, I had a friend who "looked" Muslim. He walked or rode a bike everywhere and people would shout out their car windows "Go back where you came from!" For the longest time he didn't know why until someone said it to his face and he answered "Why should I go back to Oregon?" Then the person went on calling him a muslim.
• United Kingdom
9 Apr 10
They say that things are improving in terms of racism but I don't think they are! There are still some people being targeted as a result of their colour and it's a real shame. I live in London and I noticed that there was a news story about how the police are continuing to stop and search black people as well as other people described as not being white! I wish that things would change for the better but I guess the only sure way of accomplishing this is to make sure that school children are educated and given information about this. This is a sad state that the world is in! Andrew
• United States
9 Apr 10
I agree with you, Andrew, that things are not really changing in terms of people giving other people a hard time. But the ways in which people are treated are seriously simmering down due to laws, social attitudes and our evolving together. So there's still a bright light here! I think the more important thing to remember is that a lot of the "racism" shown in the world is not special. It's not any worse a form of intolerance than any other. People, especially younger people looking for social acceptance, will always lash out against those who are different. And "different" can be sexuality, religion, wealth, height, weight, skin color, or any type of social standing that's not the same. It wasn't too long ago that people of a different race were being beaten and killed and purposefully discriminated against in supposedly civilized countries. That has changed a lot! Those types of things happening are extremely rare. Personally, I think that "teaching" children tolerance means that you have to teach them at everyone is actually different and that it's okay to be different. This is counterproductive. The best logical approach is to let everyone coexist and we'll soon realize that we're all the same. It's already happening. Every single year we're experiencing fewer and fewer incidents of actual violence happening due to intolerance. The picking and name-calling might still be a problem, along with some attitudes, but it could easily be much worse. We're making great progress.
@cupkitties (7421)
• United States
9 Apr 10
Everyone picks on each other here. White picks on black, black picks on white. White and black will team up with each other to pick on the Mexicans. Its not just race either but you have the wealthy picking on those that can't afford the same things as them.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
9 Apr 10
Who gets picked on? Christians Jews Muslims Atheists Agnostics Fat people Skinny people Short people Tall people Brunettes Blondes Redheads Dyed hair folks Straight Gay Transgendered Black White Hispanic Asian Native Conservatives Liberals Republicans Democrats Independents Tea Partiers Libertarians Commies Socialists People with glasses People with pimples People with a wonky eye People with big ears People with an overbite People with one leg People with one leg longer than the other People with too much money People without money People with money but not a lot People with big houses People with small houses People with no houses People with long hair People with short hair People with no hair People with city accents People with country accents People with northern accents On and on and on... Everyone is in danger of being picked on for any one of a number of infinite different things. Singling out a 'type' and assuming they get picked on more than anyone else is a bit silly. A lot of folks would be shocked at the treatment I received when I went to Rome. Call me crazy, but I didn't come away feeling as if Italy was a bad place for American tourists or a place that had it in for folks generally lighter than them. I guess that's because I have common sense enough to know that some people are just a$$holes and that the actions of a few folks don't mean it's a trend over the entire country. And that's especially true since I didn't visit every spot in Italy to perform any type of skewed hate polling.
• Canada
9 Apr 10
LOL......you said it!!
@vandana7 (100617)
• India
9 Apr 10
Hi jb, there is a drawback everywhere! So somebody who falls short in something is picked. :) For example I am not married, I get picked, I dont have kids, I get picked, and so on. :) But law protects the widows. In India widows were looked down upon, considered inauspicious. No protection for poor me. :) So I started giving back, that's all. :)
@jb78000 (15139)
9 Apr 10
india's changed a lot recently hasn't it? in this country (and in every other southern or eastern suropean one i've visited) i look average, but i know asian friends get hassle from twerps. people with african ancestry don't, probably because they tend to be fairly big
@umit_umit (1984)
• India
9 Apr 10
well its true in every country the minorities are surpressed and are being picked up!its in every country!i have seen this?
@laglen (19759)
• United States
9 Apr 10
We are America. We are all equal. There is no .... lol ok I just cant say it. I never was a good liar. Bottom lone, everybody. There is always somebody who has a problem. Let me just say, we are an equal opportunity nit picky nation!
@catdla1 (6005)
• United States
9 Apr 10
Unfortunately in many areas of the U.S., people who look 'different' are given a hard time. And, that difference can change, depending on what part of the country you are in. Middle Eastern people may have the widest-spread hassles, mostly as a result of continuing threats and memories of 9/11. People are afraid. Other prejudices are unfortunately a result of previous generations and peer pressure. Probably one of the most widespread where I live (in the 'bible belt') are gender issues. All of them are worng, people who harbor recism or prejudice are only robbing themselves of the richness that others bring to our lives. I hope that sites like MyLot are breaking down the barriers. Another area (surprisingly) that help break them down is cuisine. New foods and recipes are finding their way into 'main-stream' America, hopefully that helps too.