WHY?? What can we do?
@valentinesdiner (1214)
United States
April 9, 2010 7:45am CST
CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVES GETTING DEATH THREATS OVER THEIR VOTES?
Things have evolved to a point where American lawmakers are getting threats against themselves and their families over their voting!!
Please reply with what citizens can do - - what our political leaders should do - - to stop this insanity.
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@spalladino (17891)
• United States
9 Apr 10
Those who are making threats other than to vote for someone else in the next election are out of line. This is not the United States of Loudmouth Thugs. I believe that anyone who threatens the family of any legislature should be arrested as this is particularly disgusting. As individual citizens, I believe that whether one is for this legislation or opposed to it, none of us should support this type of behavior.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
10 Apr 10
I guess all those of us who are not among the loons making these threats can do is to strongly and loudly denounce them. I really don't know what the political leaders can do other than condemn them but the problem is too many of them are actually condoning these actions by their silence or their halfhearted criticism followed or preceded by "...but these people are angry..." or something to that effect. I don't care how angry someone is, I don't care how much they oppose the health care bill or any other legislation, nobody has the right to threaten a member of Congress or anyone else for that matter! I was against the war in Iraq, I was against the Patriot Act, I was against the Bush tax cuts for the rich but I never even considered threatening anyone who voted for these things and anyone who did so deserved to be dealt with to the fully extend of the law.
Annie
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@LilPixelle (828)
• United States
9 Apr 10
I haven't sent any of these threats. Nor do I condone them being sent. I believe it is wrong to threaten someone like that. But I think we should look further at what it means.
People usually only attack when they believe they have been attacked first. With this high of an amount of people attacking unrelated to each other, I think it is safe to assume they feel threatened. So they are attacking the point that threatened them. The health care bill and those who voted for it, usually in specific their own representatives. Now MOST of these people would not carry out these threats, they are simply exemplifying how much it irritates them (yes that is putting it politely) that their representatives voted for this bill. Using their free speech. I think it would be wrong to throw them in jail or something, Because this is a group of people even if they can't voice themselves eloquently and peacefully, who have taken the same stance on an issue without speaking to each other likely. That means even if they are a minority who haven't matured enough to voice their opinions not as children, they are still a group of people who aren't terrorists and have a bonafide concern that shouldn't be shrugged off.
What should be done? They feel attacked. Punish the one who hit first. The representatives but in more specific, the bill. There are particular parts of the bill that infringed on people's rights, and many believe that the budget for the bill (myself included in this) is not only wrong, but taking the money for this in the first place is wrong. We were sucker punched, in the name of good, but hurting millions to help thousands is not right. That is making an end justify a means that hurts many. I would rather voluntarily give my money than have it go to pay an IRS man to check and make sure I paid. (I would like the option to give my fine money to a med school scholarship fund.)
And I do believe someone is going to at least attempt to follow through on their threats. And I think we haven't seen the last of "terrorists" attacking government employees. I think the only question is, at what point will people stop seeing them as "terrorists" or lone nut jobs with a funny sense of thinking, and start asking WHY they think this way, and what should be done about it? It's not always a cookie cutter answer as certain people would have us to believe.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
9 Apr 10
Whoa, LilPix, are you suggesting that, in this country, the loudest and most aggressive should rule? Historically, those who are opposed to something have always screamed louder than those who are in favor of it so should the loud opposition automatically be given favor? People attack for many reasons, Pix...because they feel threatened, are angry or frustrated, or out of hate. Are you suggesting that it's okay to threaten our elected representatives every time they don't vote the way we want? Government by bullying and intimidation...is that what this country is all about? This is wrong on so many levels.
Have you read the bill or have you gotten your information from the media and the web like millions of other Americans have? How exactly is this bill going to hurt millions? Not inconvenience...not cost some money...but actually *hurt*? This bill will not help "thousands"...it will help *millions* and it will save lives. I have a couple of living, breathing reasons why I'm in favor of most of this bill...but you won't see me screaming obscenities on the evening news. Does that mean I'm not here?
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
10 Apr 10
"And, in all fairness, if the Weather Underground protesting the Vietnam War can be considered "domestic terrorists" by the conservatives, then, we must also consider anyone targetting a governmental employee for the way the voted on a healthcare reform bill as "domestic terrorists"."
Exploding bombs is not protest.
People targeting government employees for the way they voted are morons.
If they act with the sole purpose to systematically threaten people to coerce them or bomb and kill their "targets" then they are terrorists.
This is awfully amusing here:
"if the Weather Underground protesting the Vietnam War can be considered "domestic terrorists" by the conservatives"
What does political affiliation have to do with calling a spade a spade?
That's one of the biggest problems in America, currently.
Call things what they are, regardless of ideology lining up with yours.
The truth is liberating.
Conspiracies and the long way around to nowhere and myth clinging for the sake of social acceptance are all great ways to stay aboard the wagon. But it's certainly the easy way out.
Be brave. Be bold. Be honest.
@ladybugmagic (3978)
• United States
10 Apr 10
And, in all fairness, if the Weather Underground protesting the Vietnam War can be considered "domestic terrorists" by the conservatives, then, we must also consider anyone targetting a governmental employee for the way the voted on a healthcare reform bill as "domestic terrorists".
@Justathought12 (103)
• United States
9 Apr 10
Vote all incumbents out of office!!! They don't do what We the People want, they listen to the special interest group wnat and forget the people that voted them into office. Make them remember who they represent, vote them out of office, show them who is in charge!!!!
@ladybugmagic (3978)
• United States
10 Apr 10
Yes, voting would help echo what the people want. This is a hard one, because sometimes people bulk their opposition into "the people", and grow frustrated, wihtout taking a moment to realize there are two sides to each vote: an "aye" and a "nay". Chances are, some people will support those voting aye, and will vote for them again, and some people will support those voting nay and will vote for them again.