Over Zealous or Lack of Education?
@whiteheather39 (24403)
United States
April 12, 2010 10:21am CST
I have noticed that many times, especially from one member, that very often the Discussion Heading/Title has glaring grammatical errors. I am NOT referring to spelling mistakes or typos but plain lousy basic grammar. These errors are not made by members who do not have English as their mother tongue it is by users born and breed with English as their primary language. I am curious if the poster is so excited about their post that they do not check their grammar or is it just ignorance and poor education? The reason I am asking is because for me it detracts from the message they are trying to get across. Does anyone else find this distracting?
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@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
12 Apr 10
I do find it distracting and also irritating. I think that if you're trying to communicate, you should do it as well as you're capable of doing. For many people, that's their best. They were not taught well in school or they've been around people all their life that speak that way and it's become an ingrained habit.
I tend to judge someone's intelligence on how they speak and express themselves in writing. That's not considered proper these days but I can't help it. I'm often wrong.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
12 Apr 10
I also judge people on how they speak an express themselves. I think it was because growing up in Scotland and attending a private school where very much emphasis was placed on how one expressed themselves. Bad English indicated lack of class and bad breeding. It is one of my less than admirable characteristics.
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@GardenGerty (160663)
• United States
12 Apr 10
I am bothered by text speak--it has some of the same problems. I am bothered by some of the wording when people have poor grammar, but do not see it as much here as on another site I frequent. I have concluded that some of the people actually are adults with learning disabilities, or brain damage from a stroke, etc. I can afford to overlook their errors.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
12 Apr 10
I think it goes without saying that if a person suffers from some type of learning disability was NOT what I was referring to!
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@GardenGerty (160663)
• United States
12 Apr 10
No, commenting about that would not be like you at all. I just only run into either the text speak people or (mostly at another site) some people who have those other issues. It bothered me to read their stuff at first, but not so much now. I probably am not real active in the interest you are referring to.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
12 Apr 10
Hi Heather
I have not come across this one yet
I have come across a few but they are not English born and bred so I accept that they are trying which I give them credit for
As for an English born and bred that is bad News and they should really be more careful
@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
12 Apr 10
Hi Gabs. It is quite evident in one of my interests in which you do not participate. How is Gissi? OK I hope!
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
5 May 10
Lakota you were NOT the person I was referring to. I am used to how you write and you do not distort the meaning when you are posting a new discussion.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
19 Apr 10
I did notice your error but I feel it's quite rude to point these out. I will help a non English speaking user with a grammatical error but I would never belittle an English speaking person by pointing out their mistakes. I make my own errors on occasion...hey, shoot me.
@MysticTomatoes (1053)
• United States
12 Apr 10
I think it's not just the one poster - it's everyone. It makes me ill.
I work with juvenile delinquent kids day in and day out. On some cases, I have to have a paragraph or two of what happened so we can take that to the judge for sentencing or evidence. The grammar and spelling on these kids are horrible. I know I make mistakes from time to time - we all do. But this is a generation who doesn't know what your and you're mean. They use them all time as if they're one word.
Students are supposedly supposed to learn not to end a sentence with a preposition However, how are students supposed to learn not to end a sentence with a preposition, if they don't even know what a preposition is? Thus, instruction in basic concepts of grammar and language is vital.
I've actually heard this from a teacher who teaches at a public school:
Teachers can't correct because it "limits their creativity" Basically, the kid gets upset and goes crying to his mommy, who then goes crying to her lawyer. We've gotten so bad that teachers now can no longer use red pens to correct students because that damages the student's psyche.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
12 Apr 10
What a sad but true response. I have seen the same lack of knowledge in my own grandchildren and great grandchildren. There are so many restrictions in place as to what we can and what we cannot do in raising our young people. When it comes to cussing, rap and text speak they are very proficient.
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@quita88 (3715)
• United States
14 Apr 10
Yes it does distract me too. I hate it cuz I need to get my posting done and when I run across a bad discussion that is hard to read then I'm put into a holding pattern of trying to read that discussion.
The page we type on gives us a chance to preview our posts--so why don't they???
By the way, thanks for bringing this topic up.
quita88
@MagicalBubbles (5103)
• Canada
12 Apr 10
Doesnt bother me. When I joined here, I knew that we were a community with people from all over the world, background, education, etc. So Im not paying attention to how they write or spelling mistakes. Im smart enough to be able to understand what they mean and I reply to the discussion if Im interested in the subject or wont if Im not interested but it has nothing to do with the way its written. We're not paid millions to post discussions so why make it harder on ourselves!!
@Savannarose (101)
• United States
13 Apr 10
It does depend on how/what they're writing. As long as they aren't using the whole "text speak" thing or writing in l33t I can look past it. This is an informal gathering of different cultures. There will be miscommunication, and people will type more like they speak. That's just what I expect from a forum, as long as the idea gets through, all is good.