Of Atheists and God

India
April 19, 2010 11:15pm CST
I dont know whether you have come across such people but I have this thing to ask. Why is it that atheists have more hatred towards than they have love for science? I have seen and known atheists who call themselves advocates of science and eradicators of baseless beliefs but when they participate in any debate or when you speak with them about issues relating to god their debate tends to lose all logic and they just exude hatred towards god. They concentrate less on making people enlightened about the advancements in science and more about how the concept of God is baseless. What is your opinion about such people. Should they really be like that. I do not refer to all atheists- only this kind of people and seriously no offence, only my personal feeling.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
20 Apr 10
I think anyone falling on the true science side of the equation would be an agnostic and not an atheist anyway. Science hasn't figured out how the universe came to be or how and why life exists on Earth. It's all theory. And it's all revised every time someone makes a new discovery. It's an ongoing process, and the best scientific minds you'll ever hear from present their own arguments with a touch of what-if skepticism and a wide open door for new or unseen developments to shape theory. Atheism is religion's polar opposite. There's no theory--and really not much science, for that matter, other than what they fall on for their version of proof--in atheism. It's a belief that there are simply no gods - nothing's mystical or divine. It's the rejection of religion. Religious people are also that deadset in their beliefs. Religion has shaped much of the world and continues to influence it today. I've never met a religious person questioning their beliefs or keeping an open mind to other beliefs. If they do, then they're agnostic with more religious leanings than scientific influence. So the two butt heads. Atheism is just as dogmatic as any religion for hardcore believers. And a lot of atheists are quick to ram their views down someone's throat or patronize or dismiss someone's religion just like some religious people do the same to nonbelievers and believers of other religions. When you're dealing with someone's beliefs, you're dealing with their existence. You're dealing with who they are and how they see the world. Religion threatens atheism and vice versa. Maybe not in actuality. But in an individual's mind and how they perceive life, having a polar opposite out there is threatening.
• United States
20 Apr 10
Actually, Atheism has a perfectly scientific basis -- the failure of an assertor to prove the existence of a thing asserted is sufficient reason to proceed as if it does not exist. Saying "There is no such thing as God" take no more faith than saying "There is no such thing as phlogiston."
• United States
20 Apr 10
That wasn't exactly my point. And since it wasn't, I can't disagree with you. I do agree that atheism has a scientific basis. Maybe I phrased it poorly. What you're saying is true. But in the context of the discussion starter's topic and my particular post, I'm speaking to the type of atheist attacking religion. Morever, if an atheist refuses to acknowledge the possibility of another theory of creation or existence, that person is just as despotic as the belief system he or she is railing against. A lack of open-mindedness, whether you're a purely science-driven person or a faith-based person, is the pigheaded end of assertive. And that's what leads to a lot of the bad blood in a world where multiple belief systems need to coexist. To the hardcore atheist being addressed, their "science" has been ironically replaced by "faith" that their picture of the universe is the correct one. And once that settles in, it's religion, and science plays little to no role in the psyche. .... I try to reread my posts and make sure I'm not generalizing people. I don't like doing that. So I'm not attempting to cover up atheism or religion with a blanket. There are different sects in atheism as religion, and the attacking loons have perverted it.
• United States
20 Apr 10
Actually, my point directly addresses your point, specifically the part about "refuses to acknowledge the possibility of another theory of creation or existence." Taking a hypothesis seriously (you don't have a thoery until your hypothesis has been tested successfully and reproducibly) is only appropriate when there is data the hypothesis explains and a proposed experiment to attempt to confirm or disprove the hypothesis. I am not despotic for not taking the idea of an alternative theory for gravitation seriously until someone proposing such a theory makes the case that there is a flaw in the theory of gravitation and that the alternate theory does a better job of explaining it.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
21 Apr 10
Too many people would rather believe in mythology than science, and these people effect the lives of everyone. Take for instance the USA we actually had people who thought it was God's will to invade another country. On the flip side there are Muslims who think their god is telling them to put explosive in their underwear. There are people that will not listen to anything science tells them because it conflicts with the word of God. This irrationality has got to stop. When we successfully unplug peoples ears then we can start talking to them about science.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
20 Apr 10
Hi pranaywhizmachine, I agree with you, there are some atheists who just want to convince others that there's no God. Most atheists like the majority of people who believe in God or an afterlife keep their opinions to themselves. There is no way that an atheist can disprove God, just as there's no way a belier can prove it. I often wonder if there are any true atheists. I can understand someone being an agnostic but surly everyone must wonder sometimes if there's a possibility that there is more than can be comprehended with the five senses. Those who are always trying to convince others that there is no God probably have doubts themselves. Religion has to do with the spiritual and science with the physical. It is pointless for them to argue. Blessings.
@Margajoe (4747)
• Germany
20 Apr 10
I see where you are coming from. I was a church going Christian. Was also Baptized in a Baptist Church making me a Baptist. Couple months later I was kicked out of the church was no longer considered a member because the devil had come in me. You see,after being baptized I changed. It was as if I was ready to finally leave my husband after 9 long years. I believe when I opened my Bible I got the answers and the key answer was:"When you don't have Love, you have nothing." I was ready to leave. And I did. And got kicked out of church. So, I don't say I am an Atheist, I still believe in my own way. I have meet more real Christians outside of the church, real believers. I went to Berlin and was drawn to a man. Very intelligent and he said he was an Atheist. At that time I did not know what that was. After a while it became clear to me. When I talked about Jesus or God, he would freak out. Like you were saying. Science is also one of his biggest interests normally. Funny thing is, when I was depressed, he started at me with bible versus!! He talked to me telling me , what I normally tell to others in down times. That was weird. Not only that, he is a loving person to everyone. He is always there to help and sees everyones good side no matter what. He is more a Christian, than I ever was. How do you explain that?
@Christoph56 (1504)
• Canada
20 Apr 10
I am an atheist, myself, and I love science. I do research in directions of science on a regular basis, because I just love learning all sorts of pieces of how the world really works. When it comes right down to it, science is like my God. It is an overwhelming, all powerful force, that exists down to things smaller then atoms, and bigger then universes, and everything in between. But, when it comes down to a religious vs atheist debate, using science works about the same at proving the lack of a god, as religious text is at proving there is a god. There's no way a religious person would take the concept of no God just because we have so much scientific knowledge, and there's no way an Atheist can take the concept of God just because of ancient text, so the conversation usually leads along a different path... "My concept of no god is better then your concept of God..." "Noooo, my concept of God is better then your concept of no god" "Noooo, mine is better!" "Nooo, mine is better!" And so on and so on and so on....