Will AZ Governor Sign Racist Immigration Bill?

I'll say ti again, "those who would trade their essential liberties for a little security, deserve neither liberty or security." I was initialy for this bill actully, until i read in to it. I'm all for making it an actual crime to be in the state illegaly. But, this bill has an enforcement mechanism that sends the creepers up my spine. to me,this is no different then the unconstitutional border patrol checkpoints they set up well inside states that stop people and inquire about their citizenship. This is not only constitutional the very premise screams Orwell.. I understand the nessesity to do something to curb illegal immigration, but we should not be turning ourselves in to a police state to do it. If I lives in Arizona, I would be writing and protesting aginst this bill. It's one thing to check citizenship durring a traffic stop or on arresting someone....but this just goes too far.

May I see your papers, isn't that what the Gestapo use to say when question someone of possible Jewish descent? Please folks don't tell me that has nothing to do with each other. If you are an Hispanic you have to prove you are here legally just because your a Hispanic. What if you family has lived in Arizona before it was apart of the USA? If that is the case and their are some that is the case, you are the natural Arizonian(Hispanic) and yet you would have to prove your citizenship to a bunch of immigrants or descendant of immigrants.

I hope they don't pass it. That is just legalized racism. Honestly, it sounds a lot like Nazi Germany to me. Just because a person looks different, that doesn't mean they have committed a crime.

I plan to look at the text of it, but frankly, I can't see how it could be constitutional. It sounds like it directly violates the 4th amendment. Now if a driver is legitimately pulled over for a traffic infraction, and has no license, I don't have a problem with officers investigating his or her identity including citizenship. Driving without a license is illegal after all. The big issue with this of course is if they stopped me and I had no papers or ID, we all know they're not going to be checking my citizenship. That's the problem.

At least they're actually trying to do something about it. It's a shame that it has to be so reactive instead of proactive. But with the feds having jurisdiction over immigration, it's no wonder that illegals have been able to pour in by the millions and cause all types of havoc for Arizona and the rest of the country. I agree with folks about the Constitutionality of the bill. But I don't agree about racial profiling. The entire concept, as seen through a naysayer's eyes, seems a bit more than counterproductive. If you're attempting to weed out suspected Mexican illegals, then your profile is going to be biased toward folks appearing to be Mexican. (Obviously they'll try to look for more, but that doesn't matter to easily affected people so it's not worth typing about.) You don't focus on folks who look like Sally Struthers. But if you see someone who looks like George Lopez and he's acting suspect, it's time for a little "can I see some ID" action. Have one of those old white grandmothers they've been searching tried to blow up an airplane yet? And searching every third person on the subway to avoid "profiling" really paid off big time. With all these disgruntled old terrorists, subway shooters with Kate Gosselin haircuts and in business suits, and pale-skinned, blonde-haired Mexican illegals, the world is really going to sht ain't it! My hat's still off to Arizona for trying to get a handle on the problem. Everybody else seems to be talking the talk but walking far away from the problem to stay safe. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if Arizona is just doing this to force the hand of the feds to actually get involved. Anyone think of that? It's a possibility.

The lawsuits will cost more then the illegals ever cost them. Can't wait to see what idiot lawyer thinks that this can be defended. Even the current Neo Courts won't stand for this one.

I was a little aware of the bill and I read all of the responses here. I am strongly in favor of controlling illegal immigration. I believe some drastic changes need to be made. HOWEVER, it is a very slippery slope when it comes to safety and rights of citizens. I do think there are some good things in the bill. I think enforcing existing laws and Arizona clearly has a bad problem here, I know Colorado does, but maybe they need to go back and rewrite the bill.

The trouble is that this bill is a result of those Hispanics who crossed into the States illegally, just as the profiling of people who look Arabic is a result of those Muslim terrorists who bombed the Trade Center. It is a case of the innocent suffering for the crime of wrong doers. However what can one do? Should one go and stop every tenth person or ask every fifth person for their papers in an effort to show they are not doing racial profiling? Then it comes a case of bending over backward to prove that everyone in America is considered guilty. I would think that the person's actions, that he or she still retains a deep Mexican accent would make the authorities suspect. So if a person is a Mexican American and speaks American, no one would question him.

Right or wrong, it's a choice other than building a 12' concrete wall to keep illegals out. I lived in South Texas, and I know how many there are just in that area, now they are everywhere. As for Janet (idiot) Napolitano.......I'm not her biggest fan, ever since the idiot made it on to the plane with what could have been disasterous results, instead he only harmed himself... and her remark was 'Homeland security is working well' (something to that effect). Homeland security is a joke! As for profiling, wellll if the show fits. If you are here legally, or you are an American citizen, there will be no problem showing the nice officer your paperwork or whatever they decide you need to carry with you. It's kinda like people complaining about rules or laws, if you're not breaking them what is the problem? (sorry for the rant lol)

...Hi annie, the governor did sign the bill. I understand that the police don't like the bill, because they have to enforce it. There is no way you can try to tell who would be in the country illegally, unless you look at their skin color. There are some white people who are in this country illegally as well, what are they using there, nothing, because they are going after those of color. In my little old opinion, this will wind up with the U.S. Attorney General suing the State of Arizona for violation of someone's civil rights. And I hope they do that before there is a civil war on the streets. Someone was speaking on this site about a revolution, well, here you have all the ingredients. Some crazy person will supply the weapons. One congressman from Arizona, was asked how would you identify the people, he said, "by their dress, by their shoes" WTF? Oh yes and Georgia wants to do the same thing. This is a federal issue and the state of Arizona does not have legal jurisdiction over these people. One thing for sure, this will kick Washington into gear and get federal action moving on a sensible immigration bill. Also what papers would you have to have? An American born Latino would not have a green card, so they have to carry their birth certificate around with them? If that was the case and it were me, who they stopped, law suit immediately. They have no right to question you, even if you look suspicious, some people are nervous. The police are not trained, there is no standard and it will lead to terrible problems and flaring tempers. Maybe I shouldn't say it but, how stupid a governor is she? Take care.

Having lived in a town on the Mexico/Arizona border I have to say something needs done. This bill will amount to nothing more than police driving around looking for hispanic looking people in cars or even walking. I don't care for the checkpoints either, mostly because of the inconvienence lol, and they catch almost NO illegals. A start would be to go after the bleeding hearts that leave the water bottles in the desert for the illegals when they get thirsty. FYI, do you know that the road between Nogales AZ and Tucson Az (I 19 I believe)is marked in KM and not miles, can only guess it's so illegals know how far they have to travel since Mexico uses the metric system.

I too hope they don't pass this but in truth this world keeps getting more and more ridiculuz