Harry Reid's Losing To HER???
By anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
United States
April 22, 2010 12:30am CST
This is too funny to pass up but it's actually TRUE, I saw the video of this woman actually saying it...Sue Lowden, the likely Republican candidate to face Harry Reid in the Nevada Senate election in November, said the following, which you can see by clicking the link below:
"You know, before we all started having health care, in the olden days, our grandparents, they would bring a chicken to the doctor. They would say I'll paint your house.... In the old days that's what people would do to get health care with their doctors. Doctors are very sympathetic people. I'm not backing down from that system."
: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/richard-adams-blog/2010/apr/21/sue-lowden-lowdencare-chickens-nevada
A chicken for every doc? I'm having back surgery in two weeks, I wonder how many chickens should I offer or should I ask the doctor if he'll take it in McNuggets?
Annie
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11 responses
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
22 Apr 10
Oh Annie *shakes head* you know full well there's no chicken in a McNugget...
On a serious note though she does have a valid point. I'm not saying you should bring a chicken into the waiting room, but the point was that doctors WANT to treat people and many are willing to negotiate. I don't know if you've looked at the bills paid by your insurance in the past, but they really negotiate things down heavily with doctors. I have to believe that if a doctor will negotiate with a faceless corporation, they'll negotiate with an honest person struggling to pay the bill.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
22 Apr 10
NO CHICKEN IN A McNUGGET??? Say it isn't so!!
Anyway, she didn't say negotiate, she didn't say bargain, she said "barter" and then gave the chicken or house painting as examples. I know doctors will sometimes give patients without insurance a break on an office call and things like that but I don't think that was what she was talking about.
Annie
@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
23 Apr 10
On a side note I kind of rushed to respond and didn't read to the bottom about your back surgery. Good luck and I hope all goes well. Right now I'm one of those people saying I'll never have back surgery and I pray I never really need it. I was told by my chiropractor a year ago that I shouldn't lift more than 20 pounds regularly, but my son already weighs more than that so that rule is out the window.
That just made me realize, chiropractors are doctors so yeah, I've been to a doctor, but that's the only one.
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@Maggiepie (7816)
• United States
23 Apr 10
Taskr: If one can barter with a lawyer (which I have; he took a backrub for clearing a case for me), surely that's on the same level as bartering with a doctor, or any other professional. I once bartered with a bus driver with some art I had on me, when I discovered I didn't have quite enough money. It was an original of mine, too!
Maggiepie
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
22 Apr 10
A while back a friend of mine went to a dentist in a near by town, small town, lol...like every other town around here. Anyways, while he was there, he watched/listened while the dentist negotiated with a patient (who was a plumber) a deal in which he would trade dental work for some plumbing work the dentist needed done on an addition he was putting on his house.
A number of years ago...a doctor my mother worked with would make house calls...for no more of a fee than a dinner that was prepaired for him to take home for he and his wife.
As the economy goes south (and dont be fooled in to thinking it wont) this is the type of thing you are going to see. You can make fun of it all you want but it is a system that stands when all others have fallen and is still practiced in many rural areas such as mine. Things like this are common here in all walks of business.
I realize people like to make fun of this sort of mentality...it smacks of snobbery. there is a great tendency towards city folk to view the rest of the country as if it must adherre to their own narrow standards and that anything outside of that scope is "unusual" or "backwards"...if it doesn't exist on their door step...it is wierd...up here, this is what we call the flat lander mentality.
As to "Harry Reid losing to HER???"...Nevada could run Ru-Paul against Reid and Reid would lose....it wouldn't take much.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
2 May 10
This is where my grandkids would be rolling their eyes and muttering, "Whatever..."...lol!
I'm certainly as far from a snob as one could get and anyone who knows me in person certainly knows that. I'm aware of the professional bartering that still goes on. I don't know if there are any doctors left in my home town that still make house calls but I know my recently retired long time family doctor from the time I was a child did not that long ago when my mom was very sick and then even more recently for my aunt. My mom occasionally gave him something she'd baked when he came on a call and there were times when he didn't charge anything for either house or office calls.
However, I still maintain that while bartering or negotiating with one's doctor may happen now and then, it sure isn't the solution for our health care crisis. It's one thing for a doctor to give a free checkup for service on his furnace but is a hospital going to accept some baked goods for an MRI, for example? Will their employees then take their salaries in canned veggies? I don't think so!
Annie
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
22 Apr 10
I agree...the barter system is nothing new. I know doctors that take services or goods instead of money for office visits. I know poeple of a lot of different professsions do it. First...it cuts back on taxes they have to pay...you don't count the goods or service as "income". Two...they both get something they need out of the deal. Three...the doctor does not have to deal with insurance companines.
Now true...I live in the "country"....well the coastal beach. But it is a small community when the tourist are not here...so ya..we use the barter system. It works.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
22 Apr 10
This may not seem so far fetched. Many communities are using some form of barter system. Even in my case I will take pictures of your kids in sports and you fix my leaky faucet. There are doctors who will barter for your business. From what I read I would take it that she was saying that you deal with the DR and agree on a payment, in the old days it was done with goods and services, now it is done with cash. Pay up front and save 25%, pay within 30 days and save 15%. Make monthly payments and you file all the insurance papers and save 5%.
PS Annie, I wish you well on your surgery and I will pray for your quick recovery.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
22 Apr 10
Thanks so much for your kind wishes, Bob. This has been coming for quite some time and I said for years that I'd "never" have back surgery but it's gotten to where I just can't have a normal life anymore. I'm supposed to just have to stay overnight and the recovery shouldn't be all that long but I'll admit I'm a bit nervous. I haven't been in the hospital for over 35 years! I've visited everyone else in my family there but I haven't been the patient.
Annie
@iriscot (1289)
• United States
22 Apr 10
Another example of people running for office who have no clue on how to help solve the problem.. They just throw sh** out there and their followers gobble it up. I wonder if people will ever wake up and realize that the democrats are trying to pull the nation out of the muck and mess that the Bush administration made? I realize that most of them are branded with the big "R" on their butts and can't change.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
23 Apr 10
Artisty....I did not sit on my butt during Bush...I screamed my head off at all the debt and run away spending. The wars...the patriot act...I spent a lot of time ticked off at Bush and his congress. I am still ticked off. I still see wasteful spending. I still the national debt still going up. I see politics as usual. Just a different party. We are still going to have to pay for all this debt. I don't see government making drastic cuts in their spending. Heck NONE of them understand the concept of fiscal responsibility. Which leaves us tax payers will the tab. OUr taxes are going to go up. Maybe not today or tomorrow...but they will have to go up. Why? how else is everything going to get paid for? Congress won't cut their spending enough. Oh and you may want to blame Bush for everything...and believe me Bush can be blamed for a lot....but the congress under him wrote the bills, voted on them and spent the money. That was a democratic lead congress for 4 of those years. the last four to be exact. So both sides are to blame for this mess. Both sides share the blame.
They can play point the finger all they want...but the honest truth is they both sides are to blame.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
22 Apr 10
The problem we have is I don't see the Democrats being able to pull us out of this muck. At least not the ones in Congress now. The Republicans can't do it either. So here we Americans sit...stuck with a two party system..and neither party worth a dang when it comes it is elected officials.
I am fed up with both parties.
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@jerzgirl (9327)
• United States
22 Apr 10
It would be lovely if we could go back to that system, wouldn't it? I'm just curious, though. What is her opinion of the doctor in Florida who put up a sign telling his patients that if they supported Obama, they were to find a new doctor? Does she consider that sympathetic?
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@6precious102 (4043)
• United States
25 Apr 10
I pray all goes well with your back surgery. Your post makes me think of my great grandmother who, according to my mother, would go to the doctor, tell the doctor what was wrong with her, tell the doctor what treatment she needed, pay the doctor $5.00 and go home.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
1 May 10
Would you believe, I remember my mother taking me to the doctor and paying him $5.00 to give me a shot in the butt and some cough syrup and maybe a packet of pills. Prescriptions were a rarity back then. I STILL know people who tell the doctor what's wrong with them and demand the medicine they think they need.
Annie
@laglen (19759)
• United States
22 Apr 10
Actually she has a very good point. Senator Dr Ron Paul still gets paid in baked goods and food stuffs.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
22 Apr 10
I'd strap a cast on somebody or check a heartbeat for some hot wings. I can't speak for anyone else though.
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
22 Apr 10
My father used to tell me, as I'm sure many fathers told their children, "In my day, boy, I'd walk to school with holes in my shoes, no jacket, in two feet of snow, up the damn hill!"
Of course, he wasn't telling me to do the same. He was just trying to tell me how tough he was and that my problems are nothing to be whining to him about when he had the same problems and handled it.
Harry Reid would be losing to a candidate who couldn't talk at all. Somebody walking on the stage and giving a thumbs-up would pull in more support than Reid.
But picking is picking and doesn't need reason beyond reaction.
If you were a right-wing male, you'd be considered the most sexist person using myLot.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
1 May 10
Sexist? Please explain! Is it sexist to point out when someone of either gender says or does something boneheaded? I'm sure you're also referring to the fact that I've been known to occasionally point out equally silly things said and done by other conservative females such as Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann, right? Does that mean that those members who love to criticize Hillary Clinton, Janet Napolatano, Barbara Boxer and other female liberals are also sexist?
Annie
@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
28 Apr 10
So, Annie, you miss the point. Harry Reid should lose to a tree (!) because, as a human being, he is a loser. Everything he does, including ramming down unconstitutional bills, is motivated by power-mongering and greed. He is a nasty little man. How he ever got into office is beyond me. Sue Lowden is right, as I was around in the old days and there never was a problem with getting good health care at reasonable prices. My doctor even came to our home to treat us. It's the government interference in the first place that causes all the problems with fee-setting, bureaucratic nonsense, not letting doctors have their own labs as a patient convenience, etc. Oh, Harry Reid doesn't care about anyone's healthCARE, just about political manuevering and corruption. Too bad.
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
29 Apr 10
I'm sorry but with all due respect I think you've missed MY point. This discussion isn't meant to be about Harry Reid; I know most everyone here doesn't like him. However, this Lowden woman definitely is not qualified to be a U.S. Senator, in my opinion. We no longer live in the "olden days". I understand there is some professional trades or bartering that still goes on, such as as plumber doing work for a dentist in exchange for some dental work as someone mentioned. Something that is used in maybe one out of several million cases isn't the answer for solving the health care crisis.
Annie
@epicure35 (2814)
• United States
30 Apr 10
I'm sorry if I missed your point. But, I cannot agree that we could simplify healthcare and, yes, in the "good old days" we dealt with it fine. So many doctors can and will deal personally with people; I know because I've done both then and now. Government interference or control of anything is deadly.
@hofferp (4734)
• United States
22 Apr 10
Good luck with your surgery and I hope all turns out well. Harry Reid would not only lose to her, he would lose to my dog, if he were running for office (and lived in Nevada). The people of Nevada are up to their eyeballs with Reid and just about anyone right now could beat Reid. A great time to be anyone in Nevada running against Reid...
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
22 Apr 10
I agree...Reid is sooo unpopular in his state that the republican party could run anyone and win.
I surprises me the party did not ask him NOT to run so they could run someone with a chance at winning.