I think my boss is PMS-ing. But my boss is a GUY. Any advice? :|
By jeeyah
@jeeyah (1092)
Philippines
April 27, 2010 7:29am CST
There are times when my boss is nice, and there are times when he's plain irritating. Like just now, here's our conversation on CHAT:
[b]BOSS: will get you something ready in a minute (means he'll give something to do) (7:22 PM)
ME: sir? (8:10 PM)
BOSS: ? (8:10 PM)
ME: anything else for me to do? (8:11 PM)
BOSS: let me work.. i'll let you know (8:13 PM)
ME: ohh okay because you said 40 mins ago that you'll get something for me ready in a minute. so would it be okay if i go offline now? (8:14 PM)
BOSS: yep (8:14 PM)[/b]
I work as a virtual assistant, and I just go online whenever I need to work. Look at that conversation, I WAS WAITING FOR HIM FOR 40 MINUTES. This is just plain rude, don't you think?
He made me wait FOR NOTHING. The thing is that he said he would give me something to do IN A MINUTE. And when I asked him after 40 MINUTES, he shrugged me off, making it seem like I was too annoying or something. COME ON NOW?
Sorry this is just pissing me off. And this ain't the first time that he did this. He's done this a lot of times before, and I just usually let it pass and be like whatever. There were times when he made me wait for HOURS FOR NOTHING!!
And sometimes, he blames me for doing a mistake, when in fact, it was his mistake. He tells me to do something, and when something goes wrong, he "corrects" me, when the whole thing was his idea. :|
Now, don't get me wrong. There are a few times when he's nice. But most of the time, he seems too arrogant.
How about you? What would you do if your boss were like my boss? What do you think I should do?
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15 responses
@sunnycool (12714)
• India
27 Apr 10
Well you seem to be more patient---take your time when he asks you to be online---i think he wants you to be wait for him lol which is really annoying if you are waiting for nothing .I never worked as a virtual assistant and i had no experience with such kinda people---but i'm pretty sure that the converstaion and waiting times would have been different if you were a guy .great day.
@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
27 Apr 10
Thanks for acknowledging my patience. Lol. And yes, it's really annoying when I wait for nothing. Actually, I just applied as a writer, but then he started making me do stuff, so I consider myself a virtual assistant. Lol. What do you mean that they would've been different if I were a guy? What could've happened? Haha
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@missa405 (290)
• Canada
27 Apr 10
That's insane how he expects you just to sit there waiting around ready to work for that long. You should dump him and try doing virtual assistant jobs at a site where you can leave feedback for the employer letting other members know how difficult and dismissive he is.
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@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
27 Apr 10
I actually don't mind the waiting as long as it's not for nothing. That's what really ticks me off, when I wait a long time for nothing. He's done it so many times already, and he doesn't even bother to let me know that he's not gonna give me work anymore for the day.
I don't really know a site like that, do you know any? The only reason I'm sticking with my current employer is that he pays considerably higher compared to other employers I've heard of.
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@missa405 (290)
• Canada
27 Apr 10
Yea you can check my profile for the site, I'm using it now and it's pretty good. It's sort of a difficult site to get your first job at if you don't have your profile filled out completely so I'll send you a message about how to go about using the site.
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@piya84 (2581)
• India
27 Apr 10
well i am bit a unaware about this virtual assistant concept.But is it necessary to serve this one man only?Dont you have other clients?If you have then please cut these kind people.
One more thing.Hows your salary?does he pay you monthly?or for per assignment?Wasting daily 2-3 hour in such a man is waste of time.Its better you start working for some one else.
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@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
27 Apr 10
I'm just doing this part time and I don't have other clients since I'm afraid that I might not be able to give quality service if I go for a lot of clients. And the pay he's giving me is quite good compared to others, it's just the attitude problem sometimes that bothers me. :/ He pays me per assignment, by the way.
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@newtalent (1112)
• United States
27 Apr 10
That is rude,, but sounds like a neat job when everything goes good. I would try asking politely if they are ways to better out relationship without jeopardizing if it is not worth the risk. I am assuming you do not get paid for waiting just acting on his requests. I would document all conversations, directions, and follow ups when presenting your case. Maybe he has no clue what he is doing and is doing it naturally because his time is valuable and he is not aware that you have been waiting. Time flies and a minute seems does seem like it is very , when in fact an hour has gone by. God luck, it is a tough call.
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@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
27 Apr 10
Well yea, it's really a nice job when everything goes well. But since nothing can be perfect, I guess that's why my boss is like that. Lol. Anyway, I actually document everything he says, lol. And sometimes, when he corrects me, I let him know my explanation (and subtly point out his mistake, ). I don't really know how to let him know about what he's doing, because I might "annoy" him again. And since he's a very busy man, I don't think he'd have room for such a conversation. Heck, he doesn't even have time to tell me that he's not going to give me a task to work on anymore, and would just prefer to let me wait for nothing (sarcastic tone). I just let it pass. :/
I'm perfectly okay with waiting, honestly. What really pisses me off is when he lets me wait for hours telling me that he's gonna make me do something "in a minute", then later on I just see that he's gone offline. So much for giving me something to work on, right? Not to mention making me wait a long time for nothing.
It's really happened a lot of times before, but what happened today was really beyond the line. I mean, what he told me, did you read it? It really seemed so rude to me. :| Thank you anyway for the response! Made me feel a bit better.
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@caliya (1169)
• Philippines
27 Apr 10
I couldn't help but remember my former boss. We used to joke and say that here goes our boss, he is having PMS again although he is also a male. But looking at your situation I've had the worse boss. He once told me to wait for him when it was already time for me to leave the office because we will have a meeting. I waited for him for one hour and then he never showed up.
I have heard the term virtual assistant but now that you posted about it I have somewhat understood that you are like an online secretary. That's actually pretty cool but I am not sure if I can handle it. If the scenario that you have posted doesn't really happen in a regular basis then maybe you should just be a little more patient until such time you find a better job (that's if you can no longer take it)
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@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
27 Apr 10
Oh my gosh, I guess your boss is worse. Good thing he's already your FORMER boss. That was really too much, and considering the fact that it was offline, so waiting for nothing would've been more hard! :|
And yes, I guess you can call it that, like an online secretary. Well the scenario that I posted has happened a lot of times before. The only thing is that for the previous times, I just let it pass. I waited for HOURS for NOTHING. He didn't even bother letting me know that I didn't need to do anything for the day anymore. He just let me wait. I just went offline when he saw that he's also gone offline already. :/ It really has happened numerous times before, but the thing that has happened today was really what ticked me off. It was just so rude :/
Anyway, thank you for the response! I highly appreciate it. Thanks for sharing, as well.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
28 Apr 10
Hi Jeeyah,
I am blessed to have a wonderful boss who is very considerate and just great to work for. If I had a boss like yours, I would have to consider if it was worth my while to even continue working for him. Does he pay you well enough to compensate for the hours that you sit around waiting for work? That goes beyond rude. He is being completely inconsiderate of your time. You could have been earning money doing something else rather than sitting there waiting for him. I am assuming that you aren't getting paid for the time spent waiting but you should be.
@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
28 Apr 10
Hi Sid, you are very lucky that you have a nice boss. Anyway, my boss pays me waaaaay below the minimum rate for writers in his country (US). However, since I'm not in the US, he pays me a bit more than the usual compensation that writers/VAs in my country get. So I really don't know if it's worth it, but since it'll be hard to find another employer who could pay me more than he does, I just have to stick with him for now.
And yes, it's like he even forgot that I was here waiting for him! Sometimes he just makes me wait and then after 3 hours, next thing I know he's already offline! What sucks more than waiting is when you've been waiting for nothing. And what sucks more than that is when your boss treats you unfairly and insults you and talks to you in a rude and arrogant manner. And yes, I don't get paid by the hour, so yeah. :|
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
29 Apr 10
jeeyah,
No offense, but it seems like you are the one having the PMS than your boss you had mentioned here.
I felt that you need to understand that 40 minutes may be taking ages for you whilst a preoccupied person like your boss may not even seem to more than a minute. However, I can see that your boss does seem to have an issue with having an effective communication with you. I just cannot help that he just wants to be the do goody and goody goody person that he just would not like to be seen with mistakes.
I am sure you do get this from your social circle of friends every now and then, with the exception that you do not need to put up with them endlessly. I feel that employers nowadays are highly stressed which can make them very erratic with keeping up with time. I know how you feel but I hope that there will be a breakthrough with mutual understanding and interpersonal communication. As far as your boss is concern, I suppose you just have to bear with his once in a while nuances so that it will not eat into you and affect your day.
And since, he is not spontaneous with his apologies then it would also help to lower your expectations here. I know it may not be easy but I suppose the choice at this end would seem to be more promising than tipping the scales at the other side.
So, take care and have a nice .
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
29 Apr 10
jeeyah,
Let me ask a few questions here, since you said you are a virtual assistant - what is your job scope?
Plans can change and if your boss had forgotten to inform you - what do you expect him to do?
I hope that you can see another picture. Your plans may change but your job is still intact. However, when your boss has these changes, it could mean loosing a certain business opportunity or business as a whole with consequences for the company. Now, how would you react if you are in his shoes?
On the hindsight, if he is too overbearing for you, then how about looking for a job elsewhere?
@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
29 Apr 10
Well, actually I just applied as a writer, but since he makes me do a whole lot of other stuff, I consider myself a virtual assistant. So I just basically do whatever he tells me to do.
What do I expect him to do? Well, is it too much to ask for a simple apology or even just some kindness? This just always happens, he makes me appear like I'm always wrong and that he's always right, even though sometimes it's not. I understand that he's busy and might have forgotten about me, but that doesn't give him the right to be rude to me and act as if I were one of his robots whose life revolves around him. He could've told me "sorry but there's a change of plan, I'll just give you something to work on tomorrow instead." BUT NO, he said "let me work.. I'll let you know", when 40 minutes prior to that he clearly and voluntarily told me that "I'll get something ready for you in a minute". This has happened a lot of times before, and like what I said, I just often let it pass. And for those previous times, he didn't even let me know, so I was waiting for HOURS for NOTHING. A simple apology or even just a wee bit kindness is all I'm asking for. I know he's my boss, but I'm a human who deserves to be respected and valued, don't you think?
Again, I didn't really get what you meant on the 3rd paragraph, it's kinda vague. By the way, he's just an internet marketer, and his business is online-based and all about marketing and networking and such. So, I don't really know if we're on the same page here. Nevertheless, please explain the 3rd paragraph. What do you mean "how would I react if I were in his shoes?" Sorry but I don't really see the connection of what you're saying with my issue here.
@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
29 Apr 10
Have you read the whole of my story, skysuccess? As you can see, I have no problem with waiting. He has let me wait HOURS a lot of times before. But if you have seen our conversation, maybe you would understand why I got so irritated. He told me that he was going to give me work. I was there waiting. After 40 minutes, I asked him what the work was. He seemed to have gotten annoyed and told me in a way to leave him alone because he was working. So I asked him if that means I won't be needing to do anything anymore and if it was okay for me to go offline already. He was like "YEP". Now tell me, was I wrong or was he wrong? It's okay for me to wait, but WAITING FOR NOTHING is a different issue. And you won't really know the whole of my story or you won't really understand what I mean unless you get to work with him. He insults me, makes me wait for nothing, etc. CONSTANTLY. There are times when he's nice, and times when he's mean.
And yes, I do cope with it and just chose to ignore it most of the time even though he wasted my time and really insulted me a lot of times. I just thought that I could rant here because I'm just human and I can't keep my emotions in forever.
Sorry, but I didn't really get some of the things you said. The one about the social circle of friends and the lowering of my expectations. Sorry, care to explain? :/
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
28 Apr 10
hi jeeyah I would be upfront with him, tell him you waited all that time and he did not give you anything to do, then just goes off line. You have to make him hear what he is doing t o you ,maybe he just plain for gets you are on line waiting for him. You are then working online from home and he is in an office some where. my son worked like that for awhile and it did not pan out too well although he was paid quite well for it.
@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
28 Apr 10
I think my boss is also just at home, because he owns the business, and it's also an online business. Anyway, how should I be upfront about it? One time, around last week, I told him in an e-mail that "I waited for hours but he didn't show up". But he never apologized. And yesterday, I even pointed out that he told me he was going to give me work so I waited for 40 minutes, but it just seems that he's ignoring what I'm telling him. I've kinda pointed out some of his "mistakes" or what he's done to me subtly in e-mails, but he never actually acknowledges it or he doesn't respond about it. He just responds with another thing, and disregards what I said. I really think that you're right, he just plain forget that I'm here waiting for him. And what's more irritating is that he actually forgot that he told me that he was gonna give me work! :| Thank you so much for the response, Hatley!
@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
28 Apr 10
A boss, is a boss, is a boss no matter what. What could you do but either just accept him for what he is or go and find another one. Boss is really the central problem in most cases. Apart from your problem, there are different ways by which a Boss could be very irritating. Well sometimes, employees do have reasons to make fun of their Boss in his absence when he or she is far from the ideal Boss that we employees want him to be. But wait there is one thing that I hate about a Boss and it is written in one of display frames in my office desk. Every one who reads it, never fail to laugh after... "A Boss is someone who is early when you are late and late when you are early!" I found this in one local bookstore and I bought it and displayed in my office! When my Boss read it, she herself laughed! Ha!ha!ha! How do you like that?
@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
28 Apr 10
Well yea, I just put up with him, but since I'm human and can't keep my irritation inside, I decided to rant here on myLot, lol. Anyway, I guess that's really the way bosses are, "bossy". But there are some bosses who are really nice. I've had one before and I liked him very much, too bad that he didn't pay me quite enough for my work, so yea. And lol, that quotation I guess is so true! Your boss is cool for having a good sense of humor and not getting affected negatively by that.
@MagicalBubbles (5103)
• Canada
27 Apr 10
I know exactly what you're going through and sounds like we have the same boss haha!!
But, on the bright side, you can walk away from the pc and not have to deal with him or you can make faces, call him names and he doesnt even know. Thats what I do.
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@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
28 Apr 10
Lol, I don't know if I should be glad that you can relate to me or sorry that you're experiencing the same thing too.
I do that sometimes, and sometimes I back-sass him and he doesn't even know. But I look like a crazy girl 'cause it's like I'm talking to the laptop. Lol
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@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
28 Apr 10
Thanks for that info, but do those hormones last for weeks? And do they alternately show? Because my boss is sometimes nice, then later on becomes too rude. Have you read my post? If you haven't then you should have so you'd really know my story and what I'm talking about. Anyway, I also considered that maybe he was having problems, but he was constantly like that to me! And there were times when he were nice, then became rude. So I don't really think it has something to do with his personal life or something. I just don't like that he's so rude to me and makes me wait for nothing.
@danielhjd (23)
• China
28 Apr 10
Wow, He is not a good boss, at least not a nice boss who are good at management. He seems like just thinking of himself, does not pay attention to his staffs. Working is a teamwork. You'd better to have a conversation with his on issue that you face. It is said in china" interaction/conversation/talking is perfect key to settle the questions". you are right so you need to insist on that point. God blesses you.
@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
28 Apr 10
Yes, you said it right! It seems that he doesn't care about his workers and takes us for granted. I really hate it. I really don't know how to talk to him about it. I've tried subtly informing him of his rude actions, but he just disregards it. And he might respond even more rudely if I tell him about it. I just hate it. Anyway, thank you so much for that!
@Lucia123 (11)
• China
28 Apr 10
i am sorry to read you article , and i can understand you truly. i had the same experience as you. anyhow,i got it. i said to myself, maybe this is part of my work. sometimes, we should learn to comfort ourselves in a special way .you know.40 minutes maybe just a moment for your boss. he, might thought he can dou this because he paid you .just smile . i am a new english learner. i hope i can make myself understood.
@jeeyah (1092)
• Philippines
28 Apr 10
Hi, your English is really good so I completely understood what you said.
Anyway, actually the longest time has made me wait was around 2-3 hours, and he never informed me that there was no more work to be done for the day. Yes, I think because he knows that he has the money, he thinks that he can treat me unfairly and rudely. Oh well. Thanks so much for the response! I highly appreciate it.