Do You Remember Computers BEFORE The Internet..1980s Mainly?
By Janey1966
@Janey1966 (24170)
Carlisle, England
April 27, 2010 7:52pm CST
Whenever I blog my diaries from the 1980s they jog my memory as to the appalling computers I had to endure both at College and in the workplace!
The computer at College (I think) was an IBM and had terrible keys that were so clunky they were no better than a typewriter lol.
During my first proper job, eventually management brought in some computers and all I remember about them was they kept crashing constantly. No internet in those days so no multi-coloured screens, it was a black background with green type, that was it!
Do you remember computers from those early days? What were they like? What is your opinion of floppy discs and are you miffed that Sony won't be making them in future?
Were we conned into thinking that green type was better for our eyes!
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26 responses
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
29 Apr 10
Yeah, black screens with green words. That was horrible. Computers before Windows and the internet were certainly boring and slow pieces of machinery when you look back now. At the time though, they seemed like wonderful pieces of technology. I only learned computers for the first time in my last year of school which was year 10. We learned some very basic programming on these Apple computers with those very large floppy disks that used to be around in the 80's.
The next time that I used computers after that was ten years later and just as the internet was about to take off. I thought that computers had rapidly advanced in those ten years, but now, when I look back, that was nothing compared to how things have changed over this last ten years. I cannot begin to imagine what the next ten years will bring. It will be amazing I think!
@RawBill1 (8531)
• Gold Coast, Australia
30 Apr 10
The technology of the future will involve being able to get online without a computer I think. I saw a You Tube video last year some time of a guy who has invented a way to pull up a computer screen on any surface through the use of sensors and a camera/projector device around his neck. He was able to take photos with his hands and project the image onto a wall within seconds!
I don't think Terminator will be doing that somehow!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
8 May 10
Isn't Microsoft developing some device whereby you use your hand as a "screen?" All very weird if you ask me but it's scary thinking about what's coming out next!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
30 Apr 10
Hello there! I agree with you, the next 10 years will see some huge developments with computers because we rely on them more and more which is actually quite scary when you think about it.
So long as a Terminator type robot doesn't come prancing down our street shooting everybody I'll be quite happy. Haha!
@JoyfulOne (6232)
• United States
28 Apr 10
Ah yes, DOS and the days before windows. My first one back then was a TRS 80, and I took a special adult education class just so I could understand word processing better. Believe it or not, I actually was so used to dos commands that when I got my first computer with windows in it, I had a rough time lol. I first got interested in computers back then because my father in law was the head guy in the computer room at Eatons back in the mid 70's. He let me tour the computer room with him and I was amazed at this machine that took up a whole room that was bigger than my living room haha. All those reels spinning around working on informational data; I found it all fascinating.
My eldest daughters one teacher was starting to teach some basic computer stuff to her advanced students, and as a class helper I got hooked! I believed that computers were the wave of the future, and it would be an advantage for my own kids to learn what they could about them. So, as soon as I could save up, I got one...and I still love computer technology today! The first game I bought was something called 'Algebra Dragons' and both my kids had fun learning algebra equations in grade school. Fun remembering that, hadn't thought about it in years.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
28 Apr 10
What an entertaining response, thank you very much! I can tell you really like computers and you probably had a 6th sense what was coming all those years ago, looking at that huge machine with the reels spinning around! No wonder you got hooked after seeing those in action, they are fascinating, I agree.
I can see 3D computers coming. What do you think of that technology? I can see it being great for gaming but everyday telly watching? Not too sure about that, I'd love to hear your views on it my friend.
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@JoyfulOne (6232)
• United States
28 Apr 10
3-D technology might be interesting once they get it all tweaked out. I can see where it'd make interactive role playing games more interesting though. At first I didn't think that it'd be something really needed, or even used that much. But then thinking on it more, I could see useful applications for viewing something like art galleries, or arboretums and such. It would add that extra dimension that makes it look more realistic.
I'm not sure I'd want it for everyday tv watching. Sure, it'd make the programs more realistic looking, but I'd probably only really appreciate that in movies (and if I had one of those giant screen tv's) I'm sure too that once the technology of it gets tweaked and comes down in price, it'll be more appealing to everybody and it will be just as normal as when color tvs first came out. (side note: when color tv first came out I didn't like it. I was so used to black and white that the color and brightness really bothered my eyes lol) Just like when they came out with cd disk for computers (and floppy disks became obsolete), so will regular old 2D tv (as it advances into 3D technology) make those old tvs obsolete. Have a nice day Janey!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
8 May 10
I know what you mean about the early colour televisions. We didn't get one until at least 1979. Round the corner from us they had a Redifusion lol. My Dad bought a Ferguson (now called Thomson I think) and it was hideous. I blame that TV for making me have to wear glasses, it was so bright. I used to tweak it when my Dad was out of the room and when he found out he'd go ballistic! Of course, in those days it had to be altered on the telly itself, no remotes back then! This is why I like brands such as Sony and Panasonic. It's not a snobby thing at all, I just think they have always had the most natural colours. I really cannot understand people who don't tweak their televisions and have them on the factory setting. I loved messing about with Mum's new Sony recently as there were allsorts of settings on it but it was easy to use (something else I like about the brand) so I didn't mind taking my time finding the right setting for her..that goes for the sound too.
No doubt the in-laws will watch Emmerdale in HD then go to bed as they always go about 8pm. No Sky Sports, no Sky Movies. Waste of time if you ask me! God, if we had it Sky Sports would be watched even more than it is already. I know I've not mentioned 3D but - until the dark glasses are ditched I can't see it catching on. People have only just got used to HD and 3D is a gimmick ready for the World Cup.
However, there is a pub down the street that is one of the pubs picked by Sky to play football matches (when broadcast) in 3D. Unfortunately, though, Sky doesn't follow the World Cup so we're not likely to pile down there and watch their set anytime soon!
@scififan43 (2434)
• United States
30 Sep 10
I do rember these typyes of computers. I uesed raido shack trs-80s while takeing courses in data processing in high school in the mid 80's they had the green screen and a double disk drive system and no modem. I realy did not know what the net was at the time and not too many outsite the geek coumity even knew what the net was back then. I did have a word processer form the mid 90's that was almost like the comuters I used in high school. I used it when I was in coledge but I have my labtop now and that souits me just fine.
@scififan43 (2434)
• United States
1 Oct 10
I took typing in high school along with data processing classes. I do rember the electric typwritters. I am glad I took typeing in school becae it was a skill that would come in handy one day.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
30 Sep 10
Thanks for keeping this discussion alive. Yes, I remember data processing in College and it wasn't the fastest method..in fact using electronic typewriters was a lot easier and more reliable in those days!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
28 Apr 10
They are truely advanced now aren't they friends? My husband is a Graphic Designer and they all use Macs at work as their weapon of choice, so to speak. The screens are something to behold colour-wise although I did see a Macbook in a shop and was a bit perturbed to find that the glass-fronted screen wasn't non-reflective which I thought was incredible considering the price of it.
@pandaeyes (2065)
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28 Apr 10
someone gave us an apple IIE in about 1995. It was an excellent little machine.
Sadly the mouse for it from apple was about £50 and we found it was frustrating to use the 'joystick' that was with it as it lacked control.
It was impressive though for its age.
@paolonievera02 (153)
• Philippines
28 Apr 10
I can't remember that kind of computer the world had before in 1980s. The Philippines is so late in innovations. Yet, I do remember our first ever computer during my childhood days.
It had an operating system of Windows 93. It is already colored yet you still have to key in various characters before you enter some programs. I remember my mom copying some long codes before she opened the MS Word or MS Excel. There are many pass keys on every command the computer will ask you before the final pass key.
There were games too. Those are colored already. Pac-man was one of the games installed. Dave however is my favorite and most played. I don't remember exactly its name. It took me so long before I memorize the whole pass key.
The color of fonts then was white or somehow silver. The background is full black. And mostly the arrow keys from the keyboard is being used. Only the programs are colored and few uses the mouse pointer.
With regards to disk saving, we used the diskette already. I remember my mom had this diskette case full of it in multiple colors. Ha ha. And has low memory for saving.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
28 Apr 10
Aaah yes, you have jogged my memory, thank you! The days before the mouse was used all the time. Arrow keys, yes, I remember that. I once went for an interview and the panel was quite perturbed that I didn't use Windows (we had an operating system called OfficePower at work then) and I DIDN'T USE A MOUSE! Really? How odd!
Use it all the time now of course!
@paolonievera02 (153)
• Philippines
2 May 10
Good thing that computers now are way lot easier. And we depend much on using the mouse. Ha ha
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
28 Apr 10
Welcome to MyLot! To be honest, the computer I mention was from the Dark Ages lol. Therefore it is no longer around as it was used at work anyway. All I remember is the black screen, green writing and printers that took an age to load with perforated paper that kept coming off.
@jxndwl (29)
• China
29 Apr 10
Hi Janey,
Very happpy to meet you online and thank you for your reply.
The first computer in the world is called ENIAC, who is very big, very expensive and very slow but it is a big break through for humankind.
In 1980's the IBM and Apple company brought out new and smaller computer, which is suit for home. At that time the computer is also an expensive consumption goods for person. But now it costs you no more than one thousand dollars to buy a better one. I like it.
All the best.
Your friends,
jxndwl
@littlefranciscan (18327)
• United States
6 May 10
In the 80's I was graduating from High School
and computers were not so easy
I remember they just come into our High School
We had to do programming
If this then that and go to etc.
If anyone complains about the computers being complicated
I have to laugh
In my teen days we had to know some basic computer programing to
even use a computer.
Joy
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
6 May 10
That's true enough. I remember - but the time we got the computer up and running in our lesson at College, we had about 10 minutes of the lesson left!
@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
6 May 10
i kind of liked the green type:)
oh yea,i remember..it's funny tho,at the time i thought they'd never give the public anything powerful enough to bother with.i do NOT miss line programming code tho.oh god,that took forever and it sucked.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
6 May 10
Haha! It's funny how all VDU literature was about how green type was good for the eyes...there was nothing else at the time!
I don't know anybody who actually chooses to type in green on Word or whatever. What I've done on this site, however, is to change the background colour to an aqua blue. Unfortunately, this box I am typing in now still has a white background but at least it's not green type on black lol.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
28 Apr 10
I didn't take computer classes in college, but my husband did, and as I recall they involved those cards with the punch holes. At my first job, we had dumb terminals. You could look information up, but in order to change anything you had to fill out forms and send them to be keypunched. The first pc was in the late 1980's and it was not a windows pc, it had lotus symphony, voxwriter (?) and a focus database for I forget what. Seems like hundreds of years ago...
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
30 Apr 10
It WAS 100 years ago technology-wise. Things are moving too fast. I mean we've only just got used to HDTV (not in this household but the in-laws are getting an HD box so they can use their HDTV properly..well, they would) and Sky keep going on about 3DTV now. I can't keep up! As for old computers, I don't half remember them getting dusty quick. I don't know why but they did!
@apples99 (6556)
• United States
28 Apr 10
Well I've only been using a computer for the past 3 years, and I haven't scene many classic computers up close, but I've seen them on television and 80s movies lol I know that the typing letters appeared on the computer screen in green letters over a black back drop screen, but thats all I know of old computers.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
30 Apr 10
I don't think you'd be too impressed...intrigued maybe, but not impressed with their "performance" if you can call it that. We didn't know any different back then.
@angelajoy (1825)
• Philippines
28 Apr 10
I was born in the 1980s, so I don't really know what computers were like back then. What I do remember are the computers I used when I was already in school. We also had one at home, which I mainly used for typing my assignments. Sometimes I also played games there like solitaire.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
30 Apr 10
I know what you mean about computers in schools. They just started introducing them small-scale when I left in 1982! So all my computer experience has been in the workplace. Electronic typewriters are very rarely used nowadays but I thought they were brilliant when they first came out!
@teamrose (1492)
• United States
28 Apr 10
Wow, do I. I remember the first IBM computers which I thought were amazing. The program was on one floppy disc and the storage was on another. You had to keep switching back and forth while working.
I remember playing Dungeons and Dragons before there were graphics. You had to picture all the scenes in your mind. I still love those old caverns.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
30 Apr 10
The clunky keyboards are what I remember most about old computers...and the fact they weren't very fast. We coped though because we didn't know any different in those days.
@lylisal (78)
• Mexico
28 Apr 10
I've remember a litle time after, almost in 1990 and was very diferent to now, tunne on the computer with the help of a disc, and having a interface soooooo rudimentary to now.... lol...I feel old now hahahaha.
Is funny don't u think? the new generation, don't imagine how was before in this area.... and more without internet! :O lol
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
30 Apr 10
It will be interesting to think what the internet generation will think, say 20 years from now. I reckon holograms will come into effect; touch-screen technology will probably become mainstream and people will laugh at our old-fashioned computer screens we have now!
Scary thought!
@jwfarrimond (4473)
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28 Apr 10
Remember them? I've still got one! Not as my present machine I hasten to add, but stuffed away with all the other junk that's accumulated over the years.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
30 Apr 10
Yes, my nephew still has his Sega Mega Drives I and II. Sometimes he gets quite nostaglic about them but he has his Sony Playstation now so they are probably stored away too!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
28 Apr 10
I could play Space Invaders on my pocket calculator! I was so addicted to that game. More points, more points!!
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@derek_a (10874)
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28 Apr 10
Yes, I remember those computers only too well. I had an Amiga 500 at first where I had to wait ages for the software to load via floppy disk, and then anything else I did needed disks too. When the computer was shut down - which was instant, there was no hard drive so nothing was stored onto it. I don't think I will miss the floppy disks or drives
Then I migrated upwards to the Amiga 1200 which was my first hard drive. Still very, very slow, but it felt like heaven in comparison to my 500 and I could actually add titles to my videos, all very amateur though!
Then came my first PC which was a Gateway - fast in comparison to the Amiga, but it was dial-up, my first every Internet experience, which was expensive on the phoneline!
Nowadays, what a difference! Fast speed Internet, faster computer but I still think it is slow sometimes. It seems the faster we go through the Internet, the faster we want to go! _Derek
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
28 Apr 10
I have used Gateway computers at work in the past and I thought they were brilliant. Never, ever crashed. I also remember the internet when it was dial-up (so slow and crashed a lot, especially AOL lol) and before I got a comp myself I used a friend's computer to look up something on the internet for an hour costing her 1p a minute. That would be 1998, somewhere around that time.
How things have changed since then!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
28 Apr 10
My nephew loved his Segas and has a Sony Playstation now but I can tell he prefers the mega-drive because it was so fun to use. Way ahead of its time and he still has them as far as I know. He used to smack the controller down onto the floor whenever he got frustrated with a game and it never, ever broke. So robust, thankfully! Haha!
@pandaeyes (2065)
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28 Apr 10
I had a spectrum computer in 1982. I bought it to keep up with the technological advances .
It had multicoloured display(16 colours). I loved it.
Many schools had the spectrum because it was about £120 and worked with an ordinary TV screen as opposed to the bbc micro which a few schools adopted, had less memory and cost about £300 for the machine and a further £300 for a monitor and still needed a tape deck or disc drive to run any software.
Floppy discs were 4 1/25" when they were available to begin with.
They were in a cardboard sleeve and not terribly reliable but much better than tapes which could stretch.
The last floppies were 3 1/2 plastic covered and you could use both sides.
I still prefer CD's,they dont get damaged so readily.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
28 Apr 10
Yes, I have heard of the Spectrum. Wow, I can see why you liked it having 16 colours, that would be sooo advanced for the time, wouldn't it?
I've never been a big fan of floppy discs to be honest and all that backing-up of files used to do my head in (at work) which is probably why my own computer crashed recently as I don't back anything up onto CD. I really should.
@ada8may21 (2405)
• Philippines
28 Apr 10
Yeah I still remember that before its ms dos and all the thing that you need to do is all coded. Even a simple space bar you need to have code for it.
Its complicated because you need to memorize those code you needed.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
28 Apr 10
We don't half take our computers for granted nowadays! It was so difficult doing ANYTHING on the old comps. We must've had lots and lots of patience...er, and TIME!