I Have A Theory As To Why People Don't Eat As Healthily As They Should
By Janey1966
@Janey1966 (24170)
Carlisle, England
May 2, 2010 7:00pm CST
Have you any idea what the theory could be?
I shall tell you!
COST!
I was just thinking earlier about the kind of food I eat and, generally, I eat fairly healthily...but not healthy enough and that is down to cost, not apathy.
I shall give you a good example.
If we visited Morrison's, one of the 4 big supermarket chains here in the UK, we would try to pick as many "healthy" foods as possible BUT buying 4 apples (English ones, not the imported stuff) would cost around £1.50 whereas a bag of sweets costs about 99p. We do buy the apples but the sweets last longer. That doesn't seem fair to me. Why can't the price of the apples be the same as a bag of sweets?
Another example...
Fresh fish. We'd love to eat fresh fish from the fishmonger's counter but the boxed stuff is cheaper and we can buy more of it. Why is that fair?
Does this happen where you are? You WANT to eat food that is better for you but you are restrained by the price of everything?
I would love to grow my own veg but I can't as I am limited on space. Also, I am a sucker for flowers so the space I do have is given over to pretty plants. That may not be practical for some but it works for me as it lifts my spirits.
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15 responses
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
3 May 10
hi janey I think you have hit thenail on the head. we here at Gold Crest a retirement center get fed three times a day and a snack in the evening b ut it is not always what I call healthy food and I sense they are always trying to cut costs as the cost of groceries here in the USA has risen a lot along with rents here in Southern California. that is one reason why most of us buy veggies and fruits to eat in our rooms from whats left over after rent and board is taking out of our monthly social security and SSI checks.,
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@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
3 May 10
This discussion is opening my eyes as to what is happening elsewhere in the world too. It seems to be a worldwide problem, the price of so-called "healthy" foods. It's no wonder people resort to TV dinners (which I hate by the way) and frozen food as it is much cheaper. I remember eating at least 3 apples A DAY when I was a kid and they cost about 5p each then. More like 50p each now.
It's so unfair!
@ellaprice76 (196)
• United States
3 May 10
Interesting topic, which I wanted to address as well, since I noticed last week how expensive fresh fruit has become. I didn't pay any attention to food prices for some time because I gotten breakfast and lunch for free at my last job. I didn't know how lucky I really was.
Now having to buy breakfast, lunch and dinner I'm spending far more money on groceries then before hence I start to look at the prices.
Maybe one of the reason why fresh healthy food is more expensive because the seller has the same problem as the buyer. It doesn't stay fresh for long and if the product isn't sold the seller is at a loss, therefore the price is marked up to factor in the risk.
I know some of the smaller baker shops in the country you have to place your order of daily break this way the baker knows exactly how much fresh bread needs to be baked and by 4 -5 o'clock everything is sold out.
I share your problem, I'm a sucker for flowers as well. This year I'm putting watermelons and sunflowers in the same bed. The watermelons grow on and ground and the sunflowers grow between 6-12 feet. Lets hope the watermelons get enough sun.
@ellaprice76 (196)
• United States
3 May 10
I have done bulbs before however the only ones that survive are Daffodils and a few Tulips. I just have some little critter out in my yard who really like to eat the other bulbs. I do really well with Iris' and Day Lillis. I started out with 2 little plants of them and now they are all over my yard. Looks like my Blackberries and Raspbeeries are going to have a good season as well. I tried to plant strawberries between the flowers but that didn't work.
I was reading a theory some time ago that planting veggie and flowers together works well as long as one plants the right combination however I lost the article so I don't know what is a good combination and in return it's just trail and error for me.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
3 May 10
I've been planting bulbs for the first time EVER today and I enjoyed it immensely. I now have to play a waiting game to see if they all sprout up! Once my camera is re-charged I shall take a photograph of how the bed looks now, then another one when the flowers all come into bloom. Hopefully, there shall be a difference!!
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
3 May 10
I have just tried to post a discussion about my planting exploits and this site was playing up so it got rejected. My photo didn't get uploaded either. Grrr!
@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
3 May 10
I know some of it is cost, but some of it is habit as well. We do often find the unhealthy choices at lower prices, and especially if we are feeling down about it, we buy ourselves a "treat". We need to think of the fresh stuff as a treat. Maybe there is a way to make our healthy things go further. I do not know for sure. I like to think I am healthy, but sometimes it just seems like I am not. You would think that fresh, unprocessed items, like fish or even fresh fruit, would be less than the breaded and flavored kind, but no, the processing and breading and adding things for some reason makes everything cheaper. It is a puzzlement.
@ellaprice76 (196)
• United States
3 May 10
I think it is the economics of it. The processed food it also the quick answer to the "I'm hungry problem". Just recently I was working 2 jobs and running from one job to the next I eat a lot of fast food. True I would have gone to the store and gotten a few apples but then I would have been hungry 2 hours later again.
@ellaprice76 (196)
• United States
3 May 10
Janey, valid points. It's all a matter of habit and as some people have noted it maybe I'm just a little lazy as well. For some people making there lunch is something normal. They went to school with their little lunch box and later they went to work with their little lunch box. My life was never like that.
These days I buy packaged food and put it in the Mirco at lunch. Not really the best solutions.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
3 May 10
You are quite right GardenGerty, it is puzzling why processed food costs less than fresh. You gave fish as a very good example. My Mum prefers fresh fish from the fishmongers and she batters or crumbs it herself but the shop is miles away from her house so the only time she can do this is when she goes up there on the bus. There is no fishmonger nearby like there used to be as demand has declined. What people tend to do is what we do and that is to buy boxed, frozen fish that is (either) breadcrumbed or battered. It's very nice but no way is it better than Mum's fresh fish...but it's way cheaper and that's been the problem over the years. It's a combination of laziness (convenience) and cost that has driven the sales of such processed food. Having said that, we do buy fresh meat to compensate for this...but that's sky-high in price as well. God help us if they ever introduce VAT on ALL foods (it's luxury food such as chocolate that has VAT on it at present) as no-one will be able to afford to shop!
ellaprice76, yes, I do know what you mean about the fast food aspect. However, you could get into the habit of making your own sandwiches (or whatever) and store them in a box ready to eat later. I've no idea if that would save you money but at least you would know what's going into your body. Don't think I'm preaching (I'd never do that) but it's worth thinking about from a cost point of view.
@ElicBxn (63643)
• United States
3 May 10
that is absolutely true!
carbs cost less than veggies, go further and make you feel full - but unless you are exercising all the time, they also can make you fat - try to eat noodles without some kind of sauce on them... even tomato sauce, unless you make the tomato sauce yourself, will probably have some oil added
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
3 May 10
The problem with me is that I am an extremely fussy eater. Even in hospital recently I could not eat anything on their menu so they gave me a beef sandwich (which sounds great doesn't it) but it was that awful, processed meat that's never seen a cow. I only managed half of it. They also gave me a pud which was very nice but hardly had any sugar in it...if any. I know they try to give us healthy food but they shouldn't leave sugar out of a pud if they are going to give us processed meat. Double standards if you ask me.
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@ElicBxn (63643)
• United States
3 May 10
I'm not so much fussy because I'm fussy, but because I'm allergic.
I had a surgery in 1998 and I spent a half hour on the phone with the nutritionist working out what I could eat because of my allergies. Its a good thing that they didn't let me eat or drink for the 2 days I was in the hospital in 2008, because I didn't have a chance to get it worked out with a nutritionist before hand!
@ElicBxn (63643)
• United States
4 May 10
actually, in 1960, when my sister was trying to have surgery on her wandering eye (she was 3 BTW) she got sick in the hospital and the eye guy sent her to an allergist who did an food allergy elimination diet - I went to him in 1976 and discovered I was allergic to corn and milk. Then, after a serious corn reaction I went back and the first thing I eliminated was the DIET - everything on it made me sick! I went to a different allergist who actually TREATED food allergies with shots.
He retired a few years back and I got a lot of the food shots from him - and have only used 2 since then, but by watching what I eat, and avoiding corn, I maintain pretty well.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
4 May 10
Cost is one good reason, but taste is another. Face it, most people prefer the taste of pizza to brussels sprouts...
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
4 May 10
Haha! Well, that's true enough. Even thinking about sprouts makes me feel quite ill.
@kedralynn (980)
• United States
3 May 10
Exactly. My partner and I noticed that. We want to start dieting and exercising and getting overall healthy. We went grocery shopping for organic and healthy foods and noticed it cost twice as much to fill our fridge! Also time-wise we don't always have time to cook a good healthy meal at home so we settle for the cheap dollar menu fast food junk at a drive thru! Argh we feel so bad after. And we're trying to save money so I feel bad paying twice as much for say free range skinless chicken when I could buy processed frozen chicken strips for less. It definitely makes it hard to healthy doesn't it?
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
4 May 10
It sure does my friend. However, it has been proved that the free range skinless chicken you mention is definitely better than the alternative. Here in the UK chickens are big news as their plight has been highlighted on telly recently. It had a huge impact on sales and now the free range chicken is coming down in price (a bit) so more people are buying it. This is great news. Don't feel bad about paying more. Think about how that will filter down to how meat is produced in future. It's like a protest against intensive farming, that's how I look at it anyway.
@kedralynn (980)
• United States
4 May 10
Yes we watched a documentary on how cows and chicken are treated and we decided we'd much rather pay more for the organic free range chickens and the organic grass fed cows. They're healthier and we feel better after eating them. Plus I feel better for the animals.
@xtedaxcvg (3189)
• Philippines
4 May 10
Eating healhy foods here where I am is actually cheaper than eating non-healthy foods. Vegetables here are abundant and you can even grow some in your garden. There are lots of stalls here that sell cheap vegetables and we have numerous ways to cook those vegetables. Fish is also abundant and therefore is cheap.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
4 May 10
Whatever you do, resist the likes of McDonalds at ALL COSTS! I don't know if they have a foothold where you are but it's the slippery slope if they do.
I am glad you can live the way you do. You are so incredibly lucky my friend.
@Annmarks (39)
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3 May 10
I think, on the whole, most people do have a good diet (hate that word) a balance
of an varity of foods, we, should, remember, that, a little of what you like does
you good, not, to deprieve ourselves of foods, we enjoy eating. I would rather see
a person slightly over weight, happy, than someone, who, is underweight, unhappy,
this is coming from someone, who is only a size 6, yes, I am happy with my size.
I understand, about prices, the way we are often attracted to certain foods, I
personally, would rather eat a chocolate bar than have an apple, its about enjoyment of the food you are eating, also, about your life style, the exercise you
are getting, that, must come into it.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
3 May 10
Whenever I eat chocolate from now on I shall think of your response my friend. Thank you so much for not making me feel guilty about it. Seriously though, you do make a valid point and welcome to MyLot!
@chulce (1537)
• United States
3 May 10
You are correct, it is all over the world, even here in the United States, the price of fruits and fresh vegetables is a lot higher than the price of say canned fruit or vegetables. They aren't as healthy as fresh but you can stretch your money a lot further.
Same with the price of fish and other fresh meats, it is amazing how much higher the prices are versus those that have been frozen or breaded already.
Of course not being able to eat healthier is now driving up the costs on health care and more people end up spending more time in the doctor's offices.
Just curious, do you have a small patio? If so, I could teach you about container gardening. You can grow cucumbers, tomatoes, even some root veggies all in containers.
You could also check to see if there is a community garden in your area, many are free to use.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
3 May 10
Well, our yard is small and is taken over by non-edible plants but my father-in-law has a huge garden and, no doubt he shall "donate" some potatoes and strawberries to us in due course. Thanks for asking though.
@sulsisels (1685)
• United States
4 May 10
Hi Janey Because health is so very important to me and I do believe that what we put in out bodies untimately determines how healthy we are or arn't, I choose to buy the good food over the cheaper. The problem with this is that my money does not go to far anymore and I have to learn to be very creative with what I buy. I can honestly say that I have never bought frozen food. I don't find it to be cheaper anyway. I buy half the amount of meat I used to because of the cost and now my carriage is full fruit and vegetables and we are eating more like vegetarians than carnavores. I have spend a lot of time reading recipes and trying new things with vegetables and find that a vegetarian diet can be just as satisfying as meat. Roasting vegetables is wonderful and I have come up with all kinds of roasted veggie sauces for pasta etc that go a long way. We love pestos of all sorts and I have created some interesting ones. We grill peaches and pineapple, apples and plums, just about everything and add them to recipes or eat as is. I make a lot of soups and bake bread and although my baking skills leave something to be desired, I'm learning. I know that I feel a lot better eating this way and if i could just get the good food to stretch a little further than I do now, all would be good. It really pisses me off when I get to the register in the store and the checkout person gives me my total..I always say the same thing, "For what??" Groceries come out to close to 20.00 per bag, a far cry from the 10.00 it was not that long ago. It costs me about 150.00 a week to feed two of us, sometimes more and we are eating meat only once a week. If things go any higher, I don't know what we'll do...
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
4 May 10
I feel sorry for you, I really do because I know from your posts that you are so passionate about the food you eat. I find it incredible that the prices of such food is rising on a daily basis it seems. Fuel is the obvious culprit but I think it would go up anyway. Unfortunately, it would not be practicable for us to buy fresh food every day. For starters, John is at work all hours and the shops nearby leave a lot to be desired in that department. I blame the big supermarkets for taking choices away from consumers. Towns and cities are all looking the same now and it makes my blood boil. The only way places can get around this is by being of historical importance. York is a very good example and, not surprisingly, people love it. Outdoor markets have become increasingly more popular too but (and this is significant) only rich people can buy food from them..distinctly middle class I'm afraid. Markets are no longer the bastian of poor people any more. They have a snobbish feel about them and I don't like that either!
@udayrao2 (781)
• India
3 May 10
Yes you are right - COST would be the main factor; another fact is that even though one may not have money problem it is the taste buds creating tastes - I mean just look around and at yourself too- unless one is a die-hard health freak, most people tend to eat something yummy and by a funny ( Murphy's )law or whatever you call most of the food items which are very very tasty lack in health factors - for example- fries, sweets, gravies, or even the tastier breads,etc are loaded with cholesterol and everything not recommended,
Yes and by the way we also grow some vegetables- since living in a flat(apartment) we have to resort to growing plants /vegetables in boxes and keep them outside our windows or on the balconies- they may not grow to great heights but yes they do give results and in fact taste better than market ones. But the quantities are limited!!
@phoenix8606 (4942)
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4 May 10
hell0 there!
yes, i know why people don't eat as healthier
as they really should and the answer is very
simple- just because they like to eat some tasty
food from time to time, because not all the
food that is really healthy is tasty, or at least
so tasty as the non-healthy one.
that's why people like to eat chocolate, meat,
cakes, sugar and many others that are actually
not that healthy or even not healthy at all.
but as I have always said- we all live this
life only once, and we can't refuse many things
all the time, just because we will live longer,
because why are we actaully live, if we won't
taste all the things that we could, and why we
think that it is better to eat only something
that is healthy and never eat something that
is non-healthy!?
@fallingfan (445)
• United States
3 May 10
Yes, healthy food can be expensive, but think about it... your healthy body can save you money in the end! Haha, I don't follow that advice myslef, though. I've found that you can make some small changes in what you buy without spending a whole lot more money - such as buying brown rice instead of white, or whole wheat bread instead of white.
Thankfully, we have a garden where we can grow fresh (and organic) vegetables for practically free and we also have apple trees where we can pick our own fresh (and organic) apples.
@qinghui3564 (36)
• China
3 May 10
Hi,Janey!I think i am luckier than you.I am from China.In my country,fresh veg and fruits and meat are cheaper than that in canes.And sweet is more expensive than vegetables.What's more,we have a pitch of arable land in front of my home,we grow a lot of vegetables there.So there is no need for my family to buy veg all the year round.
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
3 May 10
Hello there! Welcome to MyLot my friend. Wow, you are indeed lucky having your own patch of arable land to grow vegetables. That must be so satisfying, eating food you have grown yourself. Well done!
@vandana7 (100617)
• India
3 May 10
That is an interesting theory! Really worth investigating. :)
Let me see
Out here - pastry piece would cost about half a dollar, and apple would almost cost the same. :) We know which one saves more time, dont we? :)
Ok - here is another example - small ice cream cup would cost around slightly more than half a dollar - may be 60 cents. Apple? 10 cents cheaper. Of course, ice cream lasts longer.
I have a different theory. People are lazy. So things that requires effort to make is the one that they would pick first. We dont make apples, it is readymade. But we do make those pastries, which is a time consuming process. So once we go out, we teach our children look for those, because we dont want to make them at home. :)
@Janey1966 (24170)
• Carlisle, England
3 May 10
People are lazy, you are quite right. The times I have seen homes on the internet with pristine kitchens incorporating slot in ovens that haven't been used is amazing. I actually KNOW people who have expensive cookers and use their microwaves instead. We've saved money buying an electric oven and use it daily. Unfortunately, not many people are the same as us.