Amber Alert for Teen Forced Into Van
By SomeCowgirl
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
United States
May 30, 2010 4:12pm CST
Read the Following Article, If You Will, And Please Tell Me Your View Points.
((THE FOLLOWING IS NOT I REPEAT IS NOT A REFERRAL LINK ))
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/video-of-teen-forced-into-van-prompts-mistaken-alarm/19496969?ncid=webmaildl1
[b]
My own Opinion :[/b]
While it was an unconventional way to get the girl to go with the family, and while the girl should not have thrown a hissy fit in front of a public place, the family did nothing wrong. They were not aware that an Amber Alert would be put out for the girl, and while yes they should have gone about getting the girl to go with them a different way, it was not entirely their fault that the girl had reacted the way she did.
I do not see any reason to file charges against the family, though I realize manpower and money were lost on the output of the Amber Alert and what I can only assume were exhausted search efforts seeing as they did locate the family. I feel that the police department should be relieved that this was not an abduction, and if nothing else reprimand the girl and family, but as for charges, again I say I do not see any reason.
So what do YOU think?
2 people like this
9 responses
@GardenGerty (160708)
• United States
30 May 10
I do not see that the family should be charged. I hope she had discussed alternatives with them beforehand, about why she did not want to go. Now, if she had been able to totally support herself if her family moved away, there is a procedure called emancipation, that would have allowed her to be declared her own legal guardian. If she did not want to go, and had no plans or concrete way of taking care of herself, of course she would have to go.We do not know why she was not wanting to go. It may have been her senior year or something. She may have had a boyfriend she did not want to leave. Still, at 17 she is a minor. I am glad people were aware enough to call 911, and I am glad she was actually with her family.
1 person likes this
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
30 May 10
Of course I am also very glad that people were smart enough to call and that this time she was actually with her family and I think the police should also be. I had forgotten about emancipation, and ofcourse she could have tried to do that, but either she was not aware of it or could not take care of herself. I wonder, doesn't a legal guardian have to sign a document saying that the child can be emancipated? I am not sure. I wonder though, could she have not stayed with a friend or relative?
This may be the summer of her junior year, going into senior year so I can understand her wanting to stay back.
1 person likes this
@GardenGerty (160708)
• United States
30 May 10
I think guardians do have to sign for emancipation. If she had no way of supporting herself I would see that as abandonment, though. Part of me wonders if she had a boyfriend she did not want to leave. I knew a family that moved from California to Pennsylvania in part to break up a romance. Not the only reason, but it was a factor.
1 person likes this
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Jun 10
I would think they would have to sign in agreement as well. It may have been that she had a boyfriend, she is still young but maybe even a bf she plans to marry someday, as people are marrying young now.
I'm actually a little concerned now because a responder here turned my attention to the video, wherein it looks as if it may have been a little less innocent, but who is to say?
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Jun 10
I think what would be better is if the family arranged with the local law to have the parents "arrested" for child endangerment or child abduction, the girl would then realize the error of her ways, and hopefully not pitch a fit like that again.
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
31 May 10
I do not believe either that the Parents should be charged, they could have done it a different way yes, but again they would not have thought at the time what problems it would cause, so they can not really be blamed for that either
The Girl did not need to kick up such a Fuss to be honest, ok she did not want to move but to cause havoc like that, also I think if one of the Onlookers would have said something, they would have been informed that it is not an abduction but just a young Teenager being stubborn
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
31 May 10
Hey Cowgirl! That was quite a story! I guess she really didn't
want to move to Ft. Lauderdale! I can't blame her! I don't
want to move there either and my Mom has tried to make me move
there too and she would have to take me kicking and screaming
too!lol But, it was a 17 year old kid who just didn't want to
move, can't blame here, but the people who didn't know what
was going on did the absolute right thing! How was anyone that
saw this scene supposed to know that this girl wasn't being
kidnapped! Good for the people who did look out for her! If
it were a kidnapping they would have saved her life!
1 person likes this
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Jun 10
The responder below you brought me to the attention of the video of which I didn't watch. In the video it looks a little more... then just a girl who did not want to go to another State. I am really glad people did call the police though as they did the right thing, one of the women in the video looked like she just got out of the way and that's all she was concerned with, she didn't seem frightened so maybe it was just a girl who didn't want to move.
@LaDeBoheme (2004)
• United States
31 May 10
This incident happened very close to where I live.
I agree, I don't think the family did anything wrong. It was an unfortunate incident that was perceived wrongly by onlookers and authorities, but frankly, the family probably did the only thing they could when their teenage girl decides to throw a tantrum in a parking lot. Teenagers tend to get a little dramatic and this girl obviously got the attention she was probably trying to attract.
I don't think charges should be filed. The girl is safe.
Besides, what would have been the alternative? Let her go? Leave her in Virginia? The family was from Rhode Island on their way to Florida. Then they would have definitely been arrested for abandonment of a minor (and yes, she was still a kid and proved it by her not-so-adult actions).
1 person likes this
@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
4 Jun 10
@cowgirl, I wonder if the girl "escaped" while they were getting gas, or stopping to get something to eat. The different direction that she came from and the van could be many different reasons.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Jun 10
A responder here directed my attention to the video attached to the link I provided. The video makes it seem as if the intentions of the family were not so innocent. That is to say, that I am not not clear on whether I can believe it was truly the family or not. From the shot of the video security feed, it seems the girl is coming from a different location then the van, and does not intend to go near the van.
The girl definitely did get some attention, whether it was intentional as in she needed help, or whether the girl really was just not wanting to know, I just don't know.
You say it happened close to you, did any news reports or articles say different from what the link I provided gave?
@paigeee (29)
• United States
31 May 10
I saw this on AOL earlier today.
I watched the video and something just doesn't seem right. I am a seventeen year old girl and I would never act in such a way, but that might just be me. It seems to me that something a little more sinister was going on for people to be alarmed enough to call 911. I believe a little more investigation into the situation would not hurt anyone and could only bring positivity to the situation.
1 person likes this
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Jun 10
That is where I found the info about it, I didn't look at the video though. I will have to go back and see if I can still view the video. I was thinking that a seventeen year old should not act like that, but I didn't think much of it. After all, if she didn't want to move she might have acted out just so that she would get the attention, but on the other hand your right it could be that she doesn't want to go for a more valid reason, even if it is with her own family.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Jun 10
I watched the video and it doesn't seem like she was anywhere near the van, or coming from or towards the van. I also think it almost looks like a few of them are wearing something over their heads to conceal their identity. My husband actually mentioned that it looked like they were wearing something.
@beaniefanatic13 (5076)
• Grand Junction, Colorado
4 Jun 10
So if the story is accurate, no I don't believe that charges should be filed. Teenage girls can be very hormonal and everything at the time seems like life ending. To move at the age of 17, away from your home, friends, school can be very devastating. (I was forced to move from VA to CA when I turned 13, I can tell you when I got here I was horrible to my mother) I don't agree with what the girl did, but can say it doesn't surprise me either. Family counseling is what is needed, not a bill from law enforcement. As always just my 2 cents worth!!!
@climber7565 (2579)
• United States
30 May 10
That incident is and will represent a need for law amendment in the state of Virginia. See all of use have rights and there are laws that written to enforce them. That family, over stepped their boundary with that teen ager. Surely the parent (s) did not know what to do when that teen opted to rebel against their decision to move. That comes to no surprise, specially if they did not know how to manage their teen ager. The fact is that in most states all have the right of emancipation. The concept does not only apply to freedom from slavery, but in this case from parental control. Please look at the legal reference at this link: http://law.findlaw.com/state-laws/minors-and-the-law/virginia/
The fact remains that her human right as a free human being were violated. In Virginia a teen has the right for emancipation by judicial petition at age 16 (ยง16.1-331 et seq.), more over they assaulted her, battered her and forced her into that van. That constitutes assault, battery, abduction and kidnapping, because she was forced. Now she may not be fighting it, because she was forced to resign her resistance. I think her parents had the right to enforce their parent authority, but it clearly looks like it was others then parents directly involved with the incident.
Their actions activated public resources which were necessary for locating her and overseeing her safety, same which could have been used to locate a child in actual need for them. That was a waste of time and money, besides the fact that were applied to her condition findings, ultimately a false alarm. They mishandled their family issue and provoked a bigger incident then necessary, could have cause her to be insured in the process.
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Jun 10
I believe I've not got much to say to this, however I'd like to bring your attention to the video of which I did not pay attention to myself before. It doesn't look as innocent as the article depicts it to be, but who is to say that i wasn't just a unruly teenager with family who did overstep their boundaries?
@LaDeBoheme (2004)
• United States
31 May 10
Whoa, before you blame Virginia and their laws, read the whole story. VA issued the alert because of concern. That's all VA has to do with it. The girl was NOT from VA so Virginia laws have nothing to do with her emancipation, and where does emancipation even figure in at this point? She was a minor, she was NOT and had NOT been emancipated, so she was still under parental control. She was from Rhode Island. The family stopped on their way to Florida.
Assault, battery, abduction, kidnapping?!! Holy cow! It was an Amber Alert, not an APB for dangerous criminals!
OK, maybe the family's actions were a little over the top, but it sounds like hers were too. Throwing a fit in the parking lot obviously got her the attention. I guess her family could have let her go, and gone on. Yep, left her in some strange state thousands of miles away from home.
1 person likes this
@climber7565 (2579)
• United States
2 Jun 10
Laws don't apply to the individual based on where they are from, they apply to where the crime is committed. I agree to that possibility that was an unruly teen ager. We don't know her side of the story other then that she did not want to be taken to FL, and the fact that 3 adult individuals rough handled that teen ager. At the age of 16, teen are allowed to leave their homes and be on their own if they choose to. Yes she was assaulted, battered and in the eyes of the police was kidnapped, and caught on video. All had to be sorted out later, when they concluded she was still with her family, so the kidnapping implication would not hold, but if they want to press assault and battery will hold, not to mention that if anyone approaches that situation from the under age status, its translated in to contributing against the safety of a child, and child abuse. We don't who is who amongst those adults, so if one among them is not a father and mother, that or those individuals are liable.
@cowboyofhell (3063)
• Philippines
30 May 10
If she went by herself at night, she's a corpse . With mounting violence against young women today it is only imperative to call the authorities only that this time they did not realize just a family affair. yet another public disturbance made by women .
1 person likes this
@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
2 Jun 10
If you read the article and view the video you can see that the situation was a little complex. The family were the ones to have grabbed her, rather forecfully, though the video shows more, and maybe more of a different story as well.