10 or more killed by Israelis on ship, who do you believe

Let me correct that 136 of the several hundred were taken.

They boarded a ship in international waters, period and scooped the comrades against their will. Piracy has a similar theme, where hostages are picked up. Whatever, your rant over the justification jimeny, what Israel is doing is plain wrong, and as it gets stronger, its not abating in these acts, but becoming more arrogant. Your response just outlines this. I am no fan necessarily of the UN or Hamas in particular. But then again, your arrogance shows your power to dispose of world opinion at leisure and act irresponsibly. For example, 40 vetos by the US for Israel, yet world opinion is unanymously in disagreement with Israeli policy. Then general assembly sees similar sentiment. They don't hate the Jews or Israel, they just see how Israel just walks over every issue with impunity. Understand this and the world will be a safer place.

If all the men you saw that were fighting the commando, were using sticks or empty handed- then how come two soldiers were wounded by bullttes? they shot themselves? How come IDF soldiers were wounded by knives? and that unconscious soldier threw himself from the deck? NOT it makes so much MORE sense. When a media stunt is being staged, let a few days pass and then you'll see all of the other tapes and info. The fact is that Hamas launch rockets at Israel, and the fact is that it received rockets from ships in the past. The moment that ship refused to get checked by the Israelis, and the moment the ship declared it was going stright to Gaza aven though the naval warned it 4 or 5 times not to, thats the moment it was in Israel's right to board on that ship- International water or not.

"The israelis were for sure those who started the attack first" Why, were you there? if not, I'd appriciate it if you would not make any more irresponsible statements before seeing all the facts.

Lilmuchang, "...Israelis are just cowards." I must say this comment seem grossly unfair and one you should apologise for. How can you call a nation, whose people have been subject to unprovoked attacks from since before it became a nation, who is surrounded by enemies that seek its destruction, who have fought against some of the most overwhelming odds to defend their homeland, cowards? No, the real cowards are their enemies that hide behind civilians all the best urban

btw, when anyone talks of 'enemies of Israel' and 'terrorists' against Israel, always remind them to remember Mechin Benin and also the blowing up of King David Hotel. Both attrocities committed by those defending the State of Israel. They NEVER talk about it.

International law accepts the legality of a power apprehending ships in international waters where a legal blockade exists all the best urban

How exactly is America directly chartered by God? all the best urban

That you chose the slogan "One nation under God." hardly justifies your claim that USA is chartered by God, it is no more that typical American hubris. And America seems to worship the gods of self, money, revenge and avarice more than any other nation. all the best urban

urban and Devilova, Does the phrase "One Nation, Under God" ring a bell? Do the facts of history, namely that people came here to WORSHIP FREELY, mean anything to you? That would be to worship the God of Heaven, not the god of SELF. The reference to Israel being the only nation given directly by God is in Genesis, where God tells Abram, later known as Abraham, for his great faith, he would become the father of nations, and Israel's borders were set by God, not to be disturbed or negotiated away by man. BTW God hates violence and violent men.

Well, I guess it only takes a few terrorists amongst those aboard all the best urban

Not so sure, people are loyal to even temporary groups as psychological experiments show all the best urban

Then of course, the people of other nationalities would have said that!

It wouldn't be the first time Israel's enemies had used such tactics all the best urban

I agree, it is no point provoking a situation whereby the aim is not going to be met. But wait, if the aim was an exposure to Israel's ghastly policies, well, frankly, it worked - a victory for protest, or a propaganda coup? Either way, Israel lost.

Israel lost but gained momentum. Here's why: Gaza border is also closed in Egyptian side because US Government told them so, as a part of their aid deals. Egypt does not want to confront with Israel by opening the border and they do not want to lose their US deals. Blockage held by Israel on Gaza is not legal in terms of international laws but no one can punish them for this. Since there's no money inside. Israel government pointed out some missiles thrown from Gaza and they said they are blocking all kinds of enterance to Gaza to protect their security. Let's do not forget, Gaza is not an Israeli city. It does not belong to Israel. And that incident, ship attack was in international waters. This does not give Israel any tiny piece of right to perform the attack. But according to Israel, since they have declared blockage, they are right to protect themselves. And they saw these 6 aid ships as a confrontation against their blocake rules. That's hard to believe but so simple. Why on earth Israel did not stop the ships by blocking their route? It was possible. Why they decided to raid the ships instead? This is an other confrontation this time from Israeli side. The answer to this deadly resulted incident is: Confrontation against confrontation. But we have to open a quote: Confrontation of Israel against who? Israel saw this aid ships as a navy flotilla of Hamas-like activists (Israel sees Hamas as a terrorist organization). Were there any passengers from Hamas among 600? Who knows. Israel does not imply this but says, those aid ships were not purely aid aimed, and this is the proof: they had knives and huge deadly rots. Israel lost by not stopping the ships with its advanced military power. But Israel gained by showing how they are determined to apply their one sided rules. Israel says: Do not mess with Zohan, ops sorry, with me even in international waters. Time will show how much Israel lost and hom much they gained. Total net income will not be severe no matter whether they are in positive or negative. It just will be noted down. That's all.

But if they were an elite squad, isn't it hard to understand the dis-proportionality of their response all the best urban

urban, On the topic of dis-proportionality, I have to question the pro-activists' and ships crews' violent reception on the commandos boarding the ship. There's certainly no need for such kind of violence whereby the soldiers are being attacked with poles, knives and pistols. I am sure if the crew had not reacted that violently which I am questioning the grounds for their doing - there would be no fatalities or casualties for both sides. My question here for the pro-activists at the end of the day is what's the fuss for in the first place if there's nothing to hide or fight for, in the first place? What was the violent confrontation for?

Indeed, Israel had offered to escort them in to a port all the best urban

Can't I tempt you off the fence a little? Which side to believe is closer to the truth? all the best urban

Firstly, I do not believe that fox is necessarily a credible source, but if you are going to use a reference of an Israel ambassodor, you should cite a video reference from the Palestinian side, or even Turkish. Next you should also point out the reasons and difficulties pointed out by all aid agencies and international monitors: 1. Israel has been non-specific of what can and cannot be allowed, and some are petty eg corriander - no, cumin seeds yes, but not clear list or pattern to what and what cannot pass. 2. Much of the aid, after taking time through Israel's clearance procedure actually does not make to the Gazan's confiscated on the flimsiest grounds that it shouldn't benefit Hamas as securtity issue for Israel. Thus, Israel syphens off the goods to probably redistribute in Israel. 3. Israel does not give clear indications to aid agencies of what it regards as security concerns so the appropriate item can be removed from the inventory. 4. Israel does not trust any shipping paperwork though assurances with thorough proven inventory checks. Basically, there is no cooperation from Israel to adress the Humanatarian problem but also the security issues which countries can assist. And also the blockade itself would be illegal under the Geneva convention.

YOUR people on the ship will be released, they broke the law, so they need to go to trial, a bit of a jail time, give it a week or two.

The flatilla intended to go through Israeli water toward an enemy of Israel. There's all they needed to know to decied to capture it.

Did they go to Israel?? No, they want to go to Palestine. In the city of Gazza. The main problems is, there are my people on that ship.They are doctor and nurse.