hello girls. i just want to know....
By shibham
@shibham (16977)
India
June 14, 2010 11:33pm CST
hi dear female friends here. it may sound indecent or nasty but for the curiosity i have started this discussion. it would suit, if a female member starts this discussion but as i have not seen this topic on my more than one year journey here, so at last i have started it. i apologize at first to all of you, if you find something rude here.
so the matter is all about your period time. in my locality when a girl steps on this stage for the first time, she is bound to be confined in a small room for five days. she cant see a male's face for these days even her father, she is bound to sleep in earth and cant take any meal except fruits and grams.she cant touch anyone even her mother, she cant come outside of the room and cant see sun or moon. on the fifth day, she is bathed by the women of village and the family arrange a dinner for them. males are restricted for the party.
in later menses she cant touch anyone and bound to sleep in a separate bed. she cant cook even take a meal on dinning table even she cant enter in kitchen. and many more rules are here......
so, girls. do you think that our girls are right here, i mean all those rules are beneficial for girls? do u have any rules on your period time?
i think it is a torture for our girls and they are suffering tons of inconveniences even fall ill sometimes on those five days.
so, what do you think? please share. thanks in advance.
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24 responses
@msfrancisco9369 (10002)
• Boston, Massachusetts
15 Jun 10
Hi Whistle,
This is another new learning for me about menarche. Menarche is the term used to for the female's first menstruation. This is the start of female's fertility--and she can be pregnant but her reproductive system is not ready yet to bear a child.
As far as my experience is concerned--when i had my first menstrual period, i was in school. I went home and told my mom about it. She asked me to jump three time so that my period will last for three days only. As i grew up i learned that it's myth...a misconception. The family was so happy entering a new phase in my life and mom gave me advises. My dad too even talked to me about healthy boy-girl relationships. It was not a nightmare for me. They were so supportive and communication was open. My dad and even my brothers were oriented about it and not ashamed to buy me nappies everytime i have my period. Though mine is irregular even up to now.
I pity those girls in your place. But we can't do anything about it as it's part of your culture and practices.
@shibham (16977)
• India
17 Jun 10
hi butterfly....
to jump three times, its an another learning for me.
its too hard to communicate for a girl with a male member of her family regarding menstruation. as you have said that your brothers bought nappies for you, but as i have a sister in my home, i have not ever done it for her, even she hides all those from my eyes. so, here the girls are still maintaining those rules and regulations.
have a nice day.
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@msfrancisco9369 (10002)
• Boston, Massachusetts
20 Jun 10
it's really a private thing in your case. here in our country, it can be dealt openly in the home. of course, the parents must lead the discussion with comfort that the children will not feel embarass discussing such issue. male teens are capable of handling such thing with care.
@cupkitties (7421)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Heh. Sounds like something out of Leviticus
'When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. "
I didn't know anyone still practiced those old ways. Where I'm from they throw a box of pads at you and you're pretty much on your own. In some cultures period blood is considered as sacred.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Jun 10
hi cupkitties.
'When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. " whose voice is these?
here it is not seven, its five and somewhere four days.
a box of pads at me, why? i think this is not my fault. just hard to understand your speech.
anyway, have a nice day.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
17 Jun 10
Well, I think your girls are quite privileged to be spared the contact and the chores during their times of the month. In the states we are not that lucky to be left alone during what is for many an uncomfortable or even very painful several days.
I think that being isolated is not the best thing but I know there are months where I wouldn't mind having the option. I think ritual is important and there are some legitimate things worth protecting girls from (ladies and women too!) so I think it is a question of taking the best parts of tradition and preserving them and letting some other parts go.
It's all about balance. The diet of fruit is not only a good idea, it's kind of necessary as certain foods lessen the discomfort.
@Canellita (12029)
• United States
24 Jun 10
I have to ask -- just what can a male advise a female of during her time of the month?
@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Jun 10
hi cane, again i am agree with you. its nice to have balance everywhere.
as the matter of foods, those fruits and grams give them extra energy yo overcome those pain of days bcoz they are totally ignorant about this step of their life.
being isolated is not good at all. they need mental support from everyone. its true that their close female members are ready to help them but their experiences incomplete bcoz no one male are there to advice them.
have a nice day once again.lol
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
15 Jun 10
That's a different tradition but it must be really hard for the girl because it's her first time and no one there is to care for here but herself. But it is respected cause it is what you believe, but I think it should be changed for the betterment of teens in your place.
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@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Jun 10
hi basqui.
But, her mother and some relative women can enter to that room to help or care or suggest her. but as that she cant stand in open air, it really may be considered as a morbid suffocation for that girl.
yes, its a time of change but who is there? i will be mistreat if i say something bcoz it is a totally feminine matter.
take care.
@ceecee409 (85)
• United States
15 Jun 10
this sound like a horrible experiance!!! I would hope to never have to witness something like this! But understand that its your culture!!! I have heard of many storys from other countrys of riturals that take place for certain life experiances! Its part of life and they must do it!
@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Jun 10
yes, really horrible.
no, i never consider it as my culture bcoz as i have said above that culture teach us to be cultured not to be superstitious. its totally a misconception.
"they must do it."---- dont mind please, i am not agree with you in this sentence. where the matter of horrific systems arise.... must do it. no way.
anyway, thanks for response. take care.
@czakey0309 (2)
• Philippines
15 Jun 10
no I do not have any. it is the modern times girl. we have nuclear science and all. most illnesses have cures. life is too short girl. enjoy it while it lasts.
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@funnysis (2619)
• United States
15 Jun 10
That sure is alot of rules and some seem like torture but I guess depending on your culture as to what steps are taken during this time of the month.Here there are really no rules for this time of the month and you have freedom to do your everyday activities if you so choose to.I hope that you have a great day.
@shibham (16977)
• India
15 Jun 10
hi funny, there are some countries which are too liberal. i don't think that this culture is all stretched out over my country but in my native culture it is remain same from my childhood. i just wish the changes of this culture.
have a great day always too.
@shibham (16977)
• India
17 Jun 10
yes, there is no another way to not except as it becomes a part of our society. again, its totally impossible to me to raise hands against a too old culture because there are no one to support me.
thanks for your compliments and have a nice day too. take care.
@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Where I am from, if you are on your cycle, it is just business as usual, except, going swimming can be a pain in the butt. I usually don't swim if it is that time of the month.
I don't think that life stops just because you are on your cycle.
My cycle will last four or five days, and I get headaches, and cramps, and all the other "fun stuff", but I just carry on like it's nothing.
Even though a woman is on her cycle, she should still be able to do all of the things that she normally does. Again, life should not have to stop just because it's that time of the month.
Oh, exercising is great for when it is that time of the month, it takes off some of the cramps.
See, there are so many things for women when they are on their cycle these days that you have to be "confined to quarters" anymore.
Pads, medications, tampons, foods and many different things can help make that time of the month a breeze.
Oh, and if your cycle was like mine used to be, which was heavy, lasted six to seven days and sometimes happened twice a month, instead of once a month, birth control pills are wonderful for controlling that, but always consult a doctor first before taking them.
@rogue13xmen13 (14403)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Sorry, I meant that you DO NOT have to be "confined to quarters" anymore.
Oh, and here in America, well, at least the part where I live we call it a "period" or a "cycle". Some women have cute names for it too like "Aunt Flow" or "once a month buddy", and a lot of other fun names.
When I was a girl, it used to be the worst thing in the world for most of us women, but thanks to new technology, modern medicine, and the invention of pads and tampons, it does not have to be a bad experience anymore.
@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Jun 10
hi there,
its true that you should keep yourselves away from hard labor or exercise these days due to weakness. there may be pain in several parts of your body as u have described.
hahaha.... i am guy dear friend. but your suggestions are appreciative as i can throw them to my female friends and family members.
those fun names are really interesting and nice to share with others.
have a nice day and this discussion is really interesting and fruitful. take care.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
16 Jun 10
Oh my...that is very outdated thinking! I am reading a book on Neanderthal times and that is how they treated their women during their menstrual cycle. I would never have imagined that this practice would still be going on in this day and age. I live in the states. I am 54 yrs old and as a teen, I could do anything while having my period thanks to tampax. I think that treating a woman the way your country does is just cruel. Menstruation is a natural part of life and should not be treated as a disease or anything.
@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Jun 10
hi sid.
yeah outdated, i agree.
yes, they are yet to be changed. without any scientific reason, those customs should not be obeyed.
as its a natural part of a women, they should not be treated as slave or something else. i am always against of these kind of rituals.
have a nice day.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Jun 10
I don't see any reasons for them. Do you know what the reasons are?
My poor daughter, her first time, came into my room crying because it hurt so bad and she was bleeding and she thought she had cancer. They taught her about this at school, but it wasn't anything like what she expected. Thank goodness I was there when it happened.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
22 Jun 10
Even though we did talk about it, she still got freaked out when it happened. Me, when it happened I knew, no big deal, I didn't even tell my mom.
@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
19 Jun 10
I have heard of some of those things before. In my country some people used to believe that a woman was dirty when she had her period and she wasn't allowed to cook. According to the superstition a woman would ruin the food if she cooked while she had her period. I have only heard about those things, because today most people don't believe in thoughts like that, and women usually continue with their normal activities when they have their period. Some women are in a lot of pain and have to stay in bed, but aside from that women don't have to change their plans or activities when they have their period.
@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
20 Jun 10
That is interesting, because it is different from the beliefs in my country. In the old days the women were seen as dirty and they were said to ruin the food. I am not sure where that belief comes from, but people from my country believed in it in the past. Reduction of the life span that is a different idea, and I haven't heard about that before.
@shibham (16977)
• India
20 Jun 10
hi......
its not the matter of dirty at all. its just a ritual.
its said here that if a women makes meal for her husband, then it can reduce the life span of her husband, it may be the matter of her weakness during these days. so she is kept away from all those labor that she has to suffer on that period.
have a nice day.
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
22 Jun 10
Hello shibham, I respect every culture, every tradition because I believe that there is truth and meaning to everything. Here in our place though, a woman goes on with her usual daily routine even when she is menstruating. Some women have awful symptoms when they have their period so that also keeps them from doing what they usually do.
Some women don't bathe too because they believe it's not healthy to take a bath while they have it. Many civilised people do not follow this because hygiene and grooming is also imprtant.
I tend to skip some days because I don't feel comfortable when my body touches water so a sponge bath is all I can manage.
@shibham (16977)
• India
22 Jun 10
Well friend. My sister also suffers from stomach pain during her periods. Few months ago, i consulted with an ayurbedic doctor and now she is cure. Its true that behind those rituals, there are some realistic and practical values.
Thanks for response. Have a nice day.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
9 Jul 10
hello dear bhai,
I missed this topic,and this is really interesting.
Thu i know some tradition in your country (which i don't like,no offense meant my dear brother)but,i never thought that,girls were being treated in cruelty like this during their period.
That time,women needs more care and attention from the family and not to be isolated for 5 days (without taking a bath,gosh,i just can't imagine how she smells and how uncomfortable it is)
There is a scientific explanation for this matter.
Menstruation is the first stage in a womanhood,it is the sign that,she is now developing into a full grown woman.
And,period prepares her body for every changes (womanhood,into motherhood)
During menstruation,extra hygiene is very much needed,so,instead of isolating her and letting her sleep on earth,she needs more clean and be cleaned every now and then.(washing the private area to avoid irritation or any infection)
Changing nappy is also a must,for it can cause bacterial problem.
Here in my country,we also had some beliefs with first timer (having the first menstruation)
Girls were asked to jump 3 steps of the stairs,so that the period will lasts only for 3 days.
Wash the face with the undies(with blood stain)to make the face skin smooth and pimple free.
Avoid eating sour fruits,and also,heavy works.
But,nowadays,it is not being practiced.
I,myself did not do those things,only that,my grandmom never allows me to bath with cold water,she always remind me to bath with lukewarm water to avoid stomach cramps,which i think really helps.
I hope the tradition in your place is now changing for better and more hygienic way.(no offense meant again my dear)
This is about health and not a disease ,this is hormonal changes with a womans body.
There is nothing freaky about this.
@shibham (16977)
• India
10 Jul 10
well didi, if there would be someone else to discuss this matter with a didi, then he would must hesitate but me, no never coz i am too liberal. u know i often regret why i am growing in a society where lots of misconception and superstitions are still alive. i want to breath in open air, oh..... i cant do it as i am a part of this society. so sorry dear didi....
i know all everything of menstruation. as u have said about the nappy, perhaps i am the only one person who are known about nappies. ssshhhh.... dont utter this word here coz all will laugh at you. so sorry to say all these but its the real fact of my locality.
yes, i have known that there are some kinds of beliefs in phillipines as well. i have learnt all these from this discussion and thanks to all participants here for their great contributions.
as time are passing by, some beliefs are getting old and as they have no reason to sustain all are in vain now. here also some beliefs are in cave.
have a nice day dear didi. dont neglect me as a villager coz o cant raise voice against a rush. love you.
@shibham (16977)
• India
10 Jul 10
u know didi that me and my sister are only graduates from this village where i live. anyway i am too happy and grateful that u are my didi. as u have also eagerness to meet u once in my life and perhaps i shall meet u within this year. u know didi i am doing doctorate in literature and a am about to complete it within this september so i have less time for mylot. i hope that after getting doctorate degree i am about to visit phillipines for u and my other friends.
@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
10 Jul 10
hello again my dear bhai,
wow,it's nice to know that you are open with this topic.(menstruation)
i am glad too that you know about nappies and it is fine with you.
Well,my younger brothers can hand me my nappies when i need to change (hahaha)
yeah,there is nothing wrong with it.
i am really surprised by your behavior,but i do i like it.
and i love being your sister,thu even it is just virtual.
who knows,we'll met someday in person
@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
15 Jun 10
You know sweetie, first of all i don't like the way women and girls are treated there, no offense, but this normally triggers my temper. But as you are my friend i will try to behave myself.
When one gets one's period it is not a freaking disease. If men don't like it, they can go sleep outside, and eat all that crappy food themselves and stay away from women for the whole period. Cruel, if you ask me.
What the hell is wrong with those people?
What do they think, that this will poison there food or something. I haven't really answered you, but i did throw my little tantrum. Wish you could have seen it. TATA.
@mr_pearl (5018)
• India
18 Jun 10
Hii... I know what you are talking about Shibham.. I am brought up in such a culture only... But hey the situation is changing gradually... Trust me, in cities at least, it is changing and people are accepting the broader view that the periods are only natural in ladies and there is nothing wrong/unclean with it...
@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Jun 10
hi pearl. its also true that this type of rules and regulations are more less in a town or city. most of time it runs in rural areas as i am from a rural area. but i dont think that township also has left all everything, there still remain sometghing as rural areas.
have a nice day.
@cream97 (29087)
• United States
15 Jun 10
Hi, shibham. I am glad that I am not living in your country. I don't mean to sound harsh. We don't have rules like that to follow here in the U.S. Well as far as I know of... Having a menstrual cycle for a female can be the most exciting time for a woman! I have only heard that we should not lift anything that is very heavy. Other than that, I don't know of any other. Oh, I almost forgot, I heard that we should not wash our hair when our cycle is on. But, I have washed mines a couple of times, if I am feeling okay. These girls are being tortured in your country and it is a shame. These norms are so very strange. They should be changed because this is not an acceptable normal way of treating a female when she gets her cycle for the first time. That is like punishing her for something that she can't possibly help.
@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Jun 10
Hi cream.
yes, as i have read some responses, i have learnt that there are no special rules nad regulations to maintain by the women in their periodic time.
its not the most exciting time only for women, its for the society and entire family too. one of my female cousin is still away from that experience where as she is 27 now. perhaps time is over. and u know, not only she but also the family is also suffering a lot from a hidden sorrow.
yes, its one type of punishment, may be humiliation.
have a nice day.
@blue_thr3e (403)
• Philippines
15 Jun 10
wow! the menstrual flow itself is already a trouble for me. i'm 27 now and i had just gotten used to it. my first was when i was 14. so from then until lately, i so hate my monthly menstruation. i have nothing against any tradition or culture but i don't like it if some superstitious beliefs are adding up to my irritation so when my mom said i should not take a bath during my "first day", i said "yeah, right!" and off to the bathroom. they were saying you'll go insane if you've gotten wet by the rain while you're having your menstrual flow. so i said, i think i'm getting crazier over their ideas. and i'm sorry to say this, but those things you've mentioned are equally crazy.-_-
@shibham (16977)
• India
17 Jun 10
hi blue.
thanks for your informations. i think there are some superstitions only in my locality, but there are too. but as i think those are not so terrible as us. u know friend, our girls feel too much neglected on those days. just think five days without sun rays. is not it a torture?
here, it is not important not to bath during menstruations later.
have a nice day.
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
17 Jun 10
It is a very uncomfortable time but we are pretty much expected to carry on as usual here. There are no rooms unless we want them and to be honest..sometimes they would be welcome. My grandmother did tell me that it wasn't a good idea to try to plant anything during that time. Tending to plants is also a bit risky during that time from my experiences.
@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Jun 10
yes, hard labor may be risky that time as their body fitness is not able to cope with them. i agree.
as i have said it is a matter of uncivilized form here and everyone is still supporting. its true that now a days females have lessened some rules for their lives sake.
take care.
@mspitot (3824)
• Philippines
17 Jun 10
why do they do that?
i think it's a matter of cultural differences. here, it's a myth that during your first day and for some, the whole period time, the woman must not take a bath. but now, most woman don't do that anymore cause it's untidy and it's uncomfortable to have period and you will not take a bath. it is also said that for the first day of your first period, applying some of the blood from your period on your face using the napkin you had will make your skin beautiful. but those are not practiced by women now, if there are still who do that, there are very few now. those are the beliefs of the people before but there are no scientific explanation so peple don't do that anymore.
what women now in our country do is that we avoid working physically very hard during our period. those may be lifting heavy objects or other things that can tire us physically. we also avoid bumping to things cause we will easily have bruises during our periods.
@shibham (16977)
• India
18 Jun 10
hi mispitot. As u have mentioned, there are no scientific explanations to our rituals as well. But you should maintain some conditions that not to lift heavy objects and so, as you have said. For some extra bleeding, women become more weak in those days. Perhaps when our women dont cook or go for any hard domestic work, it may be one kind of relief for them. so there are positive aspects as well but most of them go for negative.
thanks for response and have a nice day.