The competitive nature
By dorannmwin
@dorannmwin (36392)
United States
June 15, 2010 1:03pm CST
Yesterday I talked about activities with our children. My daughter is currently involved in gymnastics and also on the summer swim team. Today is her first swim meet and I am as excited about it as she is (if not more excited, I am reliving my childhood vicariously through her in this sense.)
So, this is the first time that she is actually going to be in a game or competition of any kind. I don't expect that her team is going to win because there are only five people on the team so far. However, I do think that she has the potential to do very well herself. She may not be the fastest swimmer in the water, but she is determined and I think that is worth as much, if not more than being the fastest.
All of that said, I was wondering how you feel about competitive sports for children? Are your children involved in them? If you don't allow them to be involved in any kind of competitions, why not?
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@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
15 Jun 10
I think a healthy amount of competition is vital for kids. They need to learn how to handle wins and losses.. because that's how the real world is. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, and you have to take both with dignity and composure. It's important to teach them how to do this at a young age.
I think parents tend to screw this up a lot though. Some parents are overly competitive, and make their kids overly competitive, which isn't healthy!
I am a competitive person by nature.. I'm a bit of a sore loser. But when my kids lose a game I tell them "You can't win them all". I do not get irritated when my kid's team loses... I do get irritated when there are kids on the same team that don't really want to be there but the parents force them to be just to get them involved in something. Those kids don't even try, and it drives me crazy! Sure my kids teams can't possibly win all the time, but they'd have better chances if every kid on the team tried his or her best!
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jun 10
I noticed at the meet last night a lot of the parents that were overly competitive. There were kids that were swimming and they really did look good, but they didn't win and the parents were telling them about not looking around while swimming, etc. Me, I know that you win some and you lose some and I accept that and I want Kathryn to be the same way.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
16 Jun 10
So how did she do?
I will offer my kids constructive criticism.. I would have been one of the parents telling them not to look around and focus on the swimming. I do believe that when you're in a sport, on a team, you need to do your absolute best. If you do your best and still lose, well, that's okay because you gave it your all.
I personally wasn't very great at sports, but my oldest son is. I suppose that's why I feel this way. I know how he is when he's trying his best, and I do push him to do his best when he's playing. I guess that's why it bugs me to see kids who aren't even trying.. because my son is so good, these other kids make him suffer.. like his team could have won if all the kids had put forth the effort. Know what I mean? I'm not one of those parents that want the kid to win everytime... hope I'm not coming off that way.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Jun 10
She finished her race and that was what was really important to me. You see, most of the other children in her age group have been swimming since they were five years old and are on year-round teams. This is her first season and the first race she's ever swam, so even though she finished sixth (last) in her heat, I'm proud of her none the less.
@newtalent (1112)
• United States
15 Jun 10
I think competitive sports is good and builds character. I think if parents are over zealous then they ruin it for the children when they compete. If the child likes what she does and enjoys it is a good thing. If the child does not enjoy what they are doing then they should have the option to stop. It is fun to watch and the anticipation is awesome at times.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jun 10
I would never want to ruin it for either my daughter or my son. However, I do think that it is important for them to be involved in sports to a certain degree.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Jun 10
hi dorannmwin my son is grown up but I think competitive sports for children are fine if the parents do not get so involved they
are in the refs. face all the time.If the parents just come and
watch and do not involved in the decisions from the coaches
its really good for t hem. It is a learning experience they
will use in later years as an adult.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jun 10
Oh, my father was one of those people that was always challenging the refs when we played sports as a child. I don't want to be "that" parent, but I do think that it is important for the kids to compete.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Jun 10
hi I think that its important to for kids to learn to compete
as they will use this knowledge later in life too.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Jun 10
Agreed completely, as an adult there is competition everywhere that we look.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
15 Jun 10
When children are grown they are forced into many competitive situations, children who have never experienced this while under the care of grown ups are at a real disavantages. I was raised that way, my parents thought they would help upgrade the world by raising non competitive children. Well it didn't work, I was born into the world kicking and screaming to get ahead, it would have been so much more help if they had been there to guide me in my competitive nature.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jun 10
That is very true, there really isn't anything that we as humans do during our adulthood that doesn't require at least some degree of competition. So, I think that it is very important for people to have some exposure to competition during the early years of their lives.
@much2say (55613)
• Los Angeles, California
17 Jun 10
I think being in a competitive sport is great for kids, that is, if the kid likes the sport and enjoys participating in the sport. In figure skating and in ice hockey, I've seen too many kids who are literally forced into the sport by their parents - poor kids don't have a healthy attitude about competition nor being in the sport. I promised myself I'd never become one of those witchy parents!!
My daughter loves skating for now, but we're not putting her in lessons or classes at the moment (she needs to "listen" a little better). When she does take lessons, inevitably that will mean going into competition - that's just part of the sport. I think she will do better in an individual sport (instead of a team sport) because of her personality - so perhaps skating does suit her . . . but we want her to decide whether or not she wants to truly pursue it.
I wish my parents had put me in a sport when I was younger (I think I had potential to do well in physical activities). Instead, they put me in more "mental" activities - like my cousins . . . my parents thought it was best to put me in what everyone else was doing, rather than my "interests". So I really look carefully at my child and see what her interests are and go with that.
Hope your daughter had a great swim meet!!
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Jun 10
It is definitely because of Kathryn and Paul's interests that both of them are taking gymnastics classes right now. Kathryn asked me to take gymnastics when she was three years old and Paul asked when he was two because he'd been at the gym every week of his life from the time he was born since Kathryn had class. I know that eventually it is going to lead to competition, but I'm not opposed to that either.
@karen1969 (1779)
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15 Jun 10
I think it is good for children to be involved in competitive sports. It helps kids understand about practice, discipline, determination, as well as teaching you to deal with your nerves and the pressure.
Kids have to learn to both win and lose, whether it is playing board games or running a race. In life, they will pass or fail exams, get a job or not, audition for a part in a play, all sorts of things. Any experience they already have in competing, winning and losing will be vital for the rest of life. Even getting the partner of their dreams may be like a competition with others!
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jun 10
You've brought up so many very valid points here. I know that there are some that don't believe in competitive sports for their children, but for me, I see that the spirit of competition can be used in so many other things beyond sports.
@mimpi1911 (25464)
• India
16 Jun 10
That's great to hear Dora! Congratulations to her! Tell her that Mimpi has wished her luck in whatever she dos.
Coming to competitions, I feel competitive sports is just a great way to relieve the emotional hazards that children go through. I do not support the kind of competitions that the reality TV shows come up with though. However, sports is a great way to develop interactive skills. So, well done both of you.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jun 10
Well, it was her first meet and I didn't know quite what to expect out of her. However, even though she came in sixth out of six people, I'm very proud of her none the less because she finished the race and she is learning lessons in life that no other experience could ever teach her.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jun 10
I'm from the same school of thought that you are in with this regard. I think that a certain degree of competition is important in childhood because it teaches skills that will be used later in life.
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
16 Jun 10
dorannmwin,
All my children are in their schools' swim team and one of them has already been selected for the National Age Group meet - which will be the next step to representing our country.
"The purpose of competition is not to beat someone down, but to bring out the best in every player." Walter Wheeler.
As in the words of Walter Wheeler, I always remind them that it is not about winning when they compete but to remember that they will need to do their personal best and most of all enjoy themselves.
I am very particular with the latter where I actually want them to be happy in everything including in the face of challenges with the competitions. Besides swimming they are also training with the schools' soccer team as well.
Anyway, I hope that your daughter is enjoying her sports and participation, most of all - happy.
Take care.
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
17 Jun 10
dorannmwin,
Like you, I have represented my school in both shooting, swimming and waterpolo; and in the nationals for swimming. So, I can understand your experiences and I hope that you can use your experiences to help your children cope with their training and competing.
All the best to all of you and may this be another memorable chapter of your lives.
Take care.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jun 10
When I was growing up I competed on my school's swim team as well. I knew that I would never be the best and I only won one race in my entire career with them, but I gained the advantage of being a part of a team and there is no experience in life that could ever replace that for me.
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
17 Jun 10
I don't think that she will ever have the potential to compete on a high level, but the fact that she is interested is the most important for me.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Jun 10
No interest from my children, and not much interest from my husband in supporting that should they develop an interest. Good luck to your daughter though. My husband was on the swim team and made it as far as the Olympic trials one year.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Jun 10
He was in wrestling too. Yep, it's weird...
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
27 Jun 10
I wonder if he wasn't pushed too hard as a child and that is the reason that he doesn't so much want it for your children?
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@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
23 Jun 10
It sounds like your husband was quite a swimmer. It really surprises me that he doesn't have any interest in having your children involved in sports.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
25 Aug 10
Hiya doran,
Problem here is there are not enough of those kind of Competitions going on.
There are no other kinds of activity like Theatre either or Artwork.
They did start Swimming Classes then they stopped them.
As such there is no team spirit and they have no motivation either.
But I tried to do it another way and it has stuck with them. I used to have a Satellite Dish and I would show them good sportsmanship things and bad ones too on the International Sports Channels and this has stayed with them and now they practice their own Sports things or whatever but at least I did something.
I had to do all that at School and you did learn how to win and lose. I´m afraid I lost but I thought it was all good fun mainly.
Fortunately they both practice Sport in spite of the lack of it the School then so something is better than nothing don´t you think?
I don´t think all Schools here are like that but the majority still have the same attitude it´s really sad. Just think how many would be Football Stars and Swimmers they might find amongst them instead of sitting on the Television bewailing and always complaining of the lack.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
25 Aug 10
It is really sad to hear that these kinds of opportunities don't exist for people there. I couldn't even begin to imagine what our lives would be like without competition. My siblings and myself grew up with sports and our children are following in our footsteps.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
26 Aug 10
It is great to hear that your children do like sports. I think that there are a lot of benefits to playing different sports.
@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
26 Aug 10
Hiya doran,
We had to do Sports by force but it gave us all a sense of belonging and a kind of loyalty and other values apart from keeping in shape too.
In spite of that my Kids like Sports so they do their own thing thank goodness.