doubts on Jesus' Crucifiction
By the_ruler
@the_ruler (1442)
Turkey
June 29, 2010 12:12am CST
Hey friends,
I just read some interesting news regarding to the crucifiction of Jesus and according to a historian's (Gunnar Samuelsson) research, there is no clear evidence of jesus' death on a cross.
Moreover, he says that kind of an execution was not being used in Rome in that time period.
This is a quote from the news:
"He goes on to explain that early historical texts suggests that Roman's seldom used crucifiction to execute prisoners. Instead, they used poles and crosses to hang the dead (after the fact). He explains, "If you search for ancient texts that specifically mention the act of crucifixion, you will end up with only two or three examples."
and for full text, you can read here
http://www.zimbio.com/Gunnar+Samuelsson/articles/EWJUXetRd8t/Gunnar+Samuelsson+Doubts+Jesus+Crucifiction
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4 responses
@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
30 Jun 10
Herro the_ruler
I went and read the news article and followed a couple of the links. I'm not sure of the reason he wrote the thesis, except it made a good topic for a thesis. When people write a thesis, they do their best to find a topic that has not been covered.
This topic would catch a lot of people's attention, in fact it has.
I personally believe that Christ was crucified and resurrected by God on the third day. I remember when the turin cloth was found and all the research that was done to prove it's authenticity.
The Bible is my source of belief, just as other religions have their scripture reference. I cannot spell them and do not want to offend anyone.
Such are my thoughts
Prosperous mylotting
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
29 Jun 10
Pathetic,
this is another mylotter who is yet again keeps on spouting doubts about Jesus Christ Ressurection by showing some incomplete data about how the real cruxificion takes place.
first, Jesus as a Prophet and now doubts about crucifixion. you'd better be careful with religious topics. why? seriously when ever a mylotters starts questioning islam, most specially if it's a not Muslim, you BANG it as if he/she is completely ignorant or a fool who doesn't understand Muslim, and then what now people are spouting of doubts about everything about Divine Christianity? most specially Jesus CHrist himself?
Just so you know, I've watch Movies pertaining Jesus as human or that Da Vinci Code thingy, didn't work. it just made my faith stronger, since it's a freaking novel.
focus on your religion PAL, at least something worth beneficial to people that are with or with out christianity. sheeessh
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
29 Jun 10
haha, thanks for your orders I will obey them immediately.
what the..?
It is not your business to tell me what to focus on.
I said I am a believer but I am not a local minded person and it is not really your business if I am interested in other religions as well.
Also, it is clear that all the religions have a similar source. So what is the problem with questioning one or another?
If you have read my comment above (you did cuz you have an idea about me being a muslim) so you should have noticed what I said there means I sometimes doubt about ALL THE RELIGOUS stuff, not only your "divine christianity". This is because of seeing people taking advantage of religions in different times and ages (and even still).
and you can't say I am completely ignorant and don't understand christians. I have respect for everyone's belief.
Well, niether christians nor muslims (fanatics from both religions) like me at all when I say those.
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
29 Jun 10
hey, here are some quotes from this topic. Iam not sure if you're reading my posts carefully.
you wrote
I never heard you doubting Islam, oh, yeah i forgot, you can't doubt it
I wrote:
I sometimes doubt about ALL THE RELIGOUS stuff, not only your "divine christianity".
You wrote
When it comes to Christianity, It is Undoubtedly my business as a Roman Catholic
I wrote
I am a believer myself (an alavi muslim) and I believe the existance of all the prophets, Mose, Jesus and Mohammad, however I still can't resist thinking of the other idea too because the effects of religoius believes provided advantages to some, and still doing.
This is an explicit case. I (as a muslim) can have doubts about my religion and I can of course have doubts about ANY religion. As I mentioned before:
"Well, niether christians nor muslims (fanatics from both religions) like me at all when I say those. "
AND
This doesn't mean that I would like it if someone insulted my belief, as I did not insult anyone's belief but only talked about my doubts.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
29 Jun 10
I'd believe that If some one starts criticizes Islam but for now, Let bygones be bygones. I never in my entire life questioned Islam i respect them and then now two or more articles since last year doubting CHristianity,and this one?, fine. don't get upset if a mylotter starts disclaiming Islamic beliefs. that's why........Errrrrrr..damn it, am staying out of religion topics.
I know there similar source, but still in different context. well, i can kick their butt if they're using Christianity as a form of abuse to children and women.
I never heard you doubting Islam, oh, yeah i forgot, you can't doubt it, or they will kill you. When it comes to Christianity, It is Undoubtedly my business as a Roman Catholic.
So, don't be angry if some starts having a strong Harsh words about Islam. i tell you, religious topics are the most sensitive ones.
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
29 Jun 10
Hi the_ruler, hiccup makes a good point when he asks how much the author is making by selling this book. I would think that if the Romans weren't executing prisoners by Crucifixion at the time of Christ, more would have been written about it before this. Some people make a good case for the possibility that Christ never lived at all, but again how much money are they making on the sale of their books? It's true that very little is known about Jesus Christ except what we are told in the Bible, but I expect there was such a person. I certainly don't take the Bible literally and feel certain that some things were changed and others left out altogether, yet I doubt that the world's largest religion is built around a complete myth. Blessings.
@the_ruler (1442)
• Turkey
29 Jun 10
hi pose123
Well, septisism and being suspicious about everything is a good point.
When I read your response, I also thought about how much some people will earn for injecting the thoughts of religion etc. It reminded me the false beliefs of middle age people especially, and how the "holy" society made advantage of that.
I am a believer myself (an alavi muslim) and I believe the existance of all the prophets, Mose, Jesus and Mohammad, however I still can't resist thinking of the other idea too because the effects of religoius believes provided advantages to some, and still doing.
@Joshuael (109)
• China
30 Jun 10
I like reading fictions.The stories happened in fictions are not true.But I also could learn so much from the novel.
I also like reading Bible.I havenot seen what happened in history.But I can still learn so much from the religion doctrine.
Jesus represents a spirit of toleration.He can suffer pain for humankind.That is what I should learn from his story.
