Lie and make others happy ????
By K.Rajib G.
@krajibg (11922)
Guwahati, India
July 5, 2010 12:37pm CST
Though it goes against the ethics I do lie sometime for others' satisfaction or happiness if I think that lie is too harmless an event.
It becomes necessary sometime. When, say, you see that telling the reality would hurt the person who is in a jolly mood why you should spoil so costly happiness he/she has gathered? But I make it sure that the lie does not harm the person in the long run.
So a little lie is not a sin I suppose.
Whats your story?
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26 responses
@Boyetski (986)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
Well thats what wee call white lies. Many people really cant handle the truth. If you tell the truth always you might hurt someone so bad that you cant do anything else but get away or you might die. Hehehe
Anyways, the fact that we cannot just spill out the truth everytime. We need to know the situation.
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
5 Jul 10
Hi Boyetski,
Not exactly white lie but pleasing lie. That many people can handle truth is partially correct for there are hardly any people who would love to get their moments of happiness marred by this or that.
What I wanted to say is if your not saying the little truth could make him/her feel more happy why should you spill the beens?
Thanks.
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@Boyetski (986)
• Philippines
5 Jul 10
Yeah your right.
I was thinking of this situation. What if you knew that your friend will be sent abroad for training. But your friend dint know that the fare will be dedcuted in his salary. Then the news came to your friend and he celebrate it with you. If you accidentally told him about the dedcution, it will definitely ruin his night. Ahahaha
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
5 Jul 10
Yes my friend, that is the case. Let my friend me celebrate about his proposed abroad training and let him be in the dark that the air fare would be deducted from his salary for the moment or else the whole mood of celebration would go to the dog.
Now when he would be in his own self and he himself knows that some deduction has been made would not make him that miserable which would have if told beforehand.
Good point....
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
8 Jul 10
Hi dawn,
Correct, it it is tiny and harmless and bears no selfishness one can resort to lies.
But this should not be a habit.
@ratyz5 (7808)
• Philippines
8 Jul 10
If lying is not telling the truth, I guess I always lie when I make a joke about things.
I often joke around, whenever I try to be funny. My colleagues laugh at them most of the time and I feel good about it. Most of them understand that I am only joking and not really serious about what I am trying to make them laugh.
Then, there are just those chances wherein you get asked and you know, one way or another, that the truth would just hurt if not bruise their pride and expectation so, we often just lie or try not to be direct with whatever opinion that we have. I always try to be honest and add something of uncertainty with such inquiries. Then if another person is around to share their opinion, I'd ask him or her about the same thing.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
13 Jul 10
Hi ratyz,
Sorry for the delay. I really appreciate your approach on such matter. True that certain condition pushes us back to our seat and we have no other option left than to make the truth a bit round about.
And you joke, people know that you are just making fun of something or the other and not serious. What can one do after all as life is like this.
Thanks for sharing.
@celticeagle (167071)
• Boise, Idaho
5 Jul 10
I don't think it is ever a good idea to lie for any reason. I used to but I did learn my lesson. People sometimes know when you are lying and it isn't a good idea to instill this into any relationship you have with another. Whether the other person is in a jolly mood or not. It isn't a good idea to start this.
@celticeagle (167071)
• Boise, Idaho
7 Jul 10
I just think that ANY lying is not a good idea. Ofcourse you don't want to hurt someone BUT life is full of that and this person you speak of needs to be stronger anyway and do you really think you are helping them to be that when you lie to them? AND, if there are any children involved what are you teaching them? We should be good role models for our children and never lie. I just don't condone lying. I was once a liar and did these very things you speak of and it didn't end well for me and it taught me a grave lesson.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi celti,
Albeit I have not tried to preach lying in my post. What I was trying is that if your tiny and harmless lie makes some one's day what is wrong there?
Suppose you have not a likable piece of information for your friend but she is in good mood. Now even if she asks is there anything for her, would you tell the dark thing knowing that it would surely spoil her day?
This was my point. Rest is ok.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
7 Jul 10
Come on celti, I mentioned in my post itself that lying is unethical for me too. But I do so sometime to make the some one or the other happy.
And lies should never be serious that bear personal interest or grudge. If it is occasional and just little one there is no problem I guess. I can well understand your point of view.
Just say one of my friends' father is seriously ill and he has a crucial interview next morning and he asks before his departure to the destination how is his father's condition and I know it is too serious. what shall I tell him? The truth or say that his father was ok seeing the importance of his interview?
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
7 Jul 10
I understand what you are saying; sometimes it is less hurtful and more tactful to tell a small white lie. I don’t like to hurt others either if I can help it and, if a little untruth will save someone pain I will make that choice. I agree that any lie should not have long term repercussions. It shows kindness not to want to spoil another’s happiness.
@marklicyayo (4)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
i guess your right krajibg. but in my experience when i started 'white lies', that i think is what they call the harmless lie, i noticed that the longer i use it the 'whiteness' of the lies are turning dark.
I mean i sometimes tend to believe my lies and get in trouble in the long run and sometimes hurt the person i was trying not to hurt... hmmn do i make sense?!
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi markli,
Yeah, there is sense in what you have put in. But white lie is different as far my post goes. Here I was trying to highlight on making somebody happy with a tiny lie that is too harmless and the result would be to elate some one who you think wants to be happy or more happy.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi there,
yes it is an exception. we should not always resort to tell lies even if it is too trivial.
But I do tell lies if some one really wants to be happy in a particular situation.
@sudiptacallingu (10879)
• India
6 Jul 10
No, definitely its not a sin… I have no particular story to relate but I too have lied many a times to get out of a sticky situation (self defense LOL) or to put up an excuse for somebody else. As long as its not very serious and makes other happy, its OK with me.
BTW, I think you're here after a long time!
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi sudipta,
Yes that sticky situation. Many a time we are faced with circumstances when we can not get away from telling a little lie.
Just if you ask me how i look in this saree and if I can see that you are beaming with joy but in my view the colour of your skin and the color of the saree do not go well with each other I can not or should not play spoil sport to say that na you do not look so nice in this.
Better I let you go in your own self and if necessary later tell the truth. ( of course the truth of my perception )
@derek_a (10874)
•
6 Jul 10
As a Zen practitioner, the discipline I have taken on board is to always tell the truth. It is not an easy discipline to follow and sometimes, to avoid hurting another there is an automatic tendency to tell the lie. It is important in this situation to let it go and forgive yourself, as what is done is done. Then you can only say to yourself that the truth is that a lie was told.. Sooner or later the mind will let go of it.. It is better sooner though! I think sometimes we really need to lighten up and not take things too seriously, because nothing is permanent in this life and one day it will all be gone! _Derek
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi my friend derek,
You are very true. As humans we have latent tendency to tell lies. But people like you who are practitioner of particular set of belief restrict themselves and refrain from telling any sort of lies.
But as you have mentioned still we do tell harmless lies which are selfless and are meant to make others happy.
Thanks for the visit.
@alabella (91)
• Poland
6 Jul 10
I have lies for the purpose of my satisfaction. Anyway, it is a lie and it contributes to losing trust in the person who lies to you. My ex boyfriend lied me a lot and now I am very sensitive to lies, I do not find any excuses for lies, maybe it helps sometimes but when discovered, it hurts. Of course, it depends what kind of lie it is, if a serious one, forget the lier and go away :)
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi there,
I mean to make my friend happy or more happy. I know lying is not ethical in any society but if you think your telling a small lie would make your friend happy at least for some time there is no problem. what do you say?
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi meapas,
yes certain things are there better not told. If your keeping mum or turning the subject other way round would help prevailing peace and happiness why should you go to be straight and all goody goody person and spoil the good milieu?
@Gany15k (1673)
• India
6 Jul 10
What you said is true...
We can tell lie and make others happy only if the lie doesn't hurt their feelings...Me and my friends use to say some lie just for kidding within ourselves..It will not affect anyone for sure...Just for fun we used to do..and then we will forget..
But sometimes we can't understand other's feelings..so if we thought that it will not hurt for what we going to lie and then if it hurts means , it will be bad too...so it all depends...
Anyway lie safely and make others happy...
happy mylotting too...
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
hi Gany,
surely this telling lies usually is restricted among close circle say friends. Since we are not sure of others sensitivity it could be risky to tell even little lies.
So better please one with lies who are in close proximity.
@MoonNet (4)
• Romania
6 Jul 10
hmmmm
I think we all lie sometimes,like u sed,its bad if we keep lieng to a person till we make him or her feel bad or mad.
I lied to my parents many times,they allways think at me and wish me all the good thinkgs in life,but they think and concern about others to,so i tell them little lies to make them think all its good even if is not,they have to live their lifes to,enough with little baby,im a woman who can take care of her now.
Even if they find out i lied them ,they will understand and they will try to forget and encourage me.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi moon,
Telling lies to our parents and friends is not a serious affair I feel. But they should not be too harmful.
If by your telling lies some one gets pleased for some moments at least that is fair. And that is what I usually do.
@sagar21 (1579)
• India
6 Jul 10
OK...Lying is bad...
but telling white lies .its not that bad.....or not bad at all...
we have no other opt in certain situations..but tell a lie to hide something which if told can cause serious repercussions...
..but never tell a white lie without thinking thrice ..because it can make or spoil a life...
thanks for the topic.....
have a great day/night..........
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi sagar,
You are right that in certain situation we have no option than telling some lies. and if that is harmless like a lamb there is no harm.
But if this becomes a habit it could spread to others as well and that is not warranted.
In toto telling lies is unethical as I have mentioned in my post itself.
Thanks a lot...
@grecychunny26 (9483)
• Philippines
6 Jul 10
Sometimes I do that, cause i don't want a friend to shift her mood. Like when she ask if her dress look good, I will say oustanding. If her make up looks cute or pretty I will say ,its perfect! I want to make their day. Anyway, when I already say that lines to them, they become happy and their dress will look oustanding and their make up become pretty and cute. So what's the difference. All the people I love are pretty and handsome. That is not really a lie, it is called appreciation. I appreciate the people and I love them that is why all the words the coming out of my mouth is beautiful. Anyway, the words will change if the problem is the topic. If they have somethings that needs to change with their life to be a better people and to avoid making mistake, I can honestly tell it to them.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi grecy,
This is a hypothetical situation anyway. None I guess tells a lie to make others happy without a cause. Or to saying in the flattering pattern.
This is the good will that we bear for someone near and dear or some friends who we know well and also know that a little lie about anything would make his/her day. As you have said if some one comes to you and asks how the dress looked on her/him and even if not superbly well just to keep his/her flow of elation we can say a little lie that it was gorgeous.
But if it really looked horrible then I feel one should be honest to tell that the dress needs to be altered.
@bournecaindelta (2477)
• India
6 Jul 10
Well, sometimes it works way better than saying the truth..
bourne
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi bourne,
Yes though art right. But it should work in the desired way and should be without malice.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi jen,
Yes, this is true that many of us hate to bring people down but what is the problem to resort to a little lie if he/she is too elated over this or that?
Come on let us give him/her some moment to enjoy unless it is too bad to encourage some one like if you have observed that one is looking too stupid in a particular dress and still say good.
My point was on issues other than such.
@manojt2 (179)
• India
6 Jul 10
I agree with you. To help somebody or to get some good things done, lies cannot be considered as a sin. On the contrary, its a good deed. But if you are going to lie for your own welfare, then things flip up. Then its a big sin. I too many times lie for the sake of other people. In some cases, a truth can be like a bomb and when said can blast of many people's mind. In this case also, even if you won't be speaking lies, but to suppress the truth is wise.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi manoj,
You said it. If the trivial lie is for one's own benefit it would surely be shrouded with selfishness and we all have been treating such nature as negative one.
If my lying a bit can make one's day it should not be an issue as I feel. Hence I do lie sometime to please or make happy or more happy and if be necessary tell the truth later when the water settles into normalcy.
@dfulmer03 (4)
• United States
6 Jul 10
I also lie every now and then to satisfy a friend who is down in the dumps. I believe that lying is wrong but in certain situations it is necessary. I think that when you do lie though it always comes back to haunt you at some point in time!
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi dfulmer,
If your lie is one that just makes your friend or relatives happy and not a major issue I do not think it would come back to haunt you. These small lies can be divulged when you think there is no risk.
@belial1109 (2)
•
6 Jul 10
lie to make someone feel happy?
like if a friend ask you "do i look ugly?
the you look at him/her..
the you said no ur beutiful..
but having a cross finger ang grinning
would he/she feel happy?
lol!!
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
6 Jul 10
Hi belial,
You got me wrong I guess. I was never specifying a p[articular situation like one asking if or not he/she looked ugly or beautiful.
Is not our life full of events and incidents and possibilities?