I'm A Nervous Wreck!
By CatsandDogs
@CatsandDogs (13963)
United States
July 10, 2010 6:35pm CST
I have a feeling this is going to be a two part discussion because it’s really long.
I’m a complete mess right now that I’ve been sick with diarrhea since Monday because of my nerves. I’ve been put in a horrible position and I don’t know how I’m going to resolve it. Hubby and I got into a big fight Monday morning however, all is ok now but, I talked to my mom on Tuesday and told her about it and she said some things that really disturbed me. She said that she’s noticed that he’s changed a great deal since his mother passed away and that he had gotten mean like she was. Now let me explain, hubby’s mother was a mean mean woman. She didn’t give a hoot and darn about anybody or anything. When she talked to people, she didn’t actually talk to them but through them as if they weren’t even there or like they didn’t mean a darned thing to her. Just trust me when I say she was mean because she was. I explained to my mom that I’ve seen it too but I understand it because he’s bitter and angry because he never was able to ‘fix’ things with her before she died. He wishes now that he had ‘the talk’ with her and gotten his feelings out but he didn’t out of fear that she’d pass away before he could right things again so he’s bitter because he loved her although she was so mean and hateful. Mom understood but she said that she doesn’t like him like she once did because of his meanness towards her and dad.
She gave me an example. Hubby and I both wish she’d use her cane because of her balance problem but she flatly refuses. They came to our house for dinner one night and I have a cane of my own to use when I need it when my knee acts up and hubby handed it to her and she told him where he could stick it (half jokingly) and he asks her “Who do you think is going to care for you if and when you fall? Me and MB, that’s who”. Well mom told me that she’d be damned if he’d take care of her and that she’d crawl around on her belly if she had to because he’s not going to take care of her! I explained that that’s not what he meant at all but what he did mean was if and when she does fall we’re the only ones to care for her and she needs to consider us too because it’s not all about her anymore but us too and that we have a life too so why should we give up our lives over something that could’ve been prevented?! Consider us too! She got a little quiet so I think it gave her food for thought but will she use the cane? Hell no!
Another thing is, she thinks that hubby comes with me because I tell him to so to help me clean their house and that she can see that he doesn’t’ want to be there and so on. I told her that I’ve told him to stay home that I’d clean their house myself and it might take me a day or two to get it all done but I’ll get it done to stay home but he won’t because he says he doesn’t want me to have to do it all. Mom said that she could help and so could dad for that matter. I’m thinking, what planet did she come off of? Dad has never cleaned house ever in his life so why would he start now?! Besides, he’s not well either! Why can’t she just be happy that hubby’s there helping ME if nothing else? I know he’s not a great person to be around when with them but he’s tired of the crap that they’ve dished out to us and doesn’t have any bones about letting them know either which puts me in a hell of a position! I’ve asked him to stop his sulking and smile so I won’t have to explain it to them but he won’t.
Then she thinks that hubby has to be with me every time I go up there because he is with me all the time. He’s protecting me because I can’t hear well and from their meanness towards me. He knows I’m terrified of them. Always have been and I guess I’ll always be. But, no, he doesn’t have to be with me all the time, he chooses to be and if I don’t want him to, I’ll tell him so but it’s the way WE are. We’re fine with it but mom said she’d love for me to come up by myself every now and then so I could stay and visit with them but as it is, hubby’s in a hurry to leave because he can’t get out of there fast enough. That’s not the case at all! It’s ME that’s in a hurry to get out of there because the tension in the air is so thick one can cut it with a knife! You know that saying, “when mom ain’t happy, ain’t nobody happy” Well, it’s TRUE in my mother’s case. She and dad fight like I don’t know what and I can not stand it!! It makes me so damned nervous that I can’t wait to leave and do once we’re finished. Not only that, she thinks that hubby is keeping me from going up there which is so not true! I took your advice (no pun intended!) and backed off a little bit and some more and more as time went by because it was driving me crazy! I have to get away from that and besides that, what about the hateful things they’ve both have said in the past? Those things hurt us and after all we’ve done and we get treated like we’re nothing but dogs? What the hell did they expect?? I don’t get it!!
Another thing, dad keeps a little bit of money aside that mom doesn’t know about. He’s had to use it to pay some bills if and when mom didn’t have enough to pay out which is good and all but still, he has a ‘stash’ of his own and mom doesn’t know this. Again, referring back to that night they came over for dinner, dad had mentioned to hubby about his diabetes test strips and how the VA is sending him some but he needs some now but can’t afford the cost of them. Hubby told him “I guess you’re going to have to use some of your stash money” which got dad upset but he didn’t say anything, that I know of but told mom about it which made her mad. Now why did he do that if he doesn’t want mom to know about his ‘stash’? I finally told mom that we really need to talk and she agreed. I went up there Tuesday to do just that but first mom had to take a shower and then she laid down on the couch because she was dizzy and then had to do this and that and the other. She did say something about “I don’t know where hubby gets this idea that your father has a ‘stash’ and said stash in a snotty way. That’s when I told her that dad has told me the very same thing so I know hubby isn’t lying. She shut up then. Needless to say, we never had ‘the talk’ and when I went to leave, she went on and on about how wonderful it was to have me there to visit and how she really enjoyed it and that I’ll never know how much it meant to her to have me there bla bla bla That was all well and good to hear but damn it all, when we do have this talk, she’s going to feel bad knowing I’ve had this weight on me for so long. So no matter what I do, I’m in a lose lose situation! I haven’t told hubby anything yet out of fear he’ll go off the deep end. I’m going to have to come clean with everything, right from the start and lay it all out on the table and tell them to take it as they will because this is how it is.
Another thing too, when I first got there, mom wasn’t there but dad was and he told me that they had a big fight the night before and they were still at odds. Then he told me that he won’t ask hubby to help him anymore because he’s tired of hearing about ‘did you ask so and so if they could help? They need to help out too’. Dad told him that they live four hours away and the drive itself is tiring and besides, when they are able to come down, they want to visit with them not work and then drive the four hours back home. Besides that, they both have two jobs and work such crazy hours that it’s hard for them to come down. Now I understand that but hubby’s point is, not every weekend but every 6 to 8 weeks which I agree with hubby on this part and told dad so. Dad just shook his head. I mean, if they can afford vacations to Hawaii, Bahamas, Alaska, Ireland, Paris and on and on then by God they could send some money down here to hire some help!! It’s just NOT fair that we carry the whole burden!! Another thing too, hubby is tired of my dad carrying on about my brothers did this my brothers did that. To hubby it sounds like dad’s put them on a pedestal and I’m nothing because he doesn’t talk about me at all. Well, dad taught my brothers how to play music, that’s why and they’re very good at it too. They won’t go pro because they don’t want to live in the public eye. The don’t want to be famous. However, mom told me many years ago that she and dad had made an agreement that he was to raise the boys and she was to raise the girls and maybe that’s why but I do know that dad loves me. There’s no question about that but still, hubby hates it when dad talks about my brothers and yet, I can understand why.
So I’ve got to talk to them both and lay it all on the table. Everything that’s happened over the years that made hubby turn sour towards them all the way up to now. It’s the only way I’ll ever have a chance to make things right regardless if mom remembers any of it or not, it has to come out.
To make this into a discussion, have you ever been put in such a position before? How did you resolve it?
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10 responses
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
12 Jul 10
Hey Cat, i don't want to make u mad or hurt your feelings but your parents are playing u for all it's worth & are going to cause more trouble w/u& hubby till something bad happens. I'm sure he is fed up w/their b/s & the way they treat u.I think he's right. HUGS.
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
12 Jul 10
[b]Hi Jo.... I'm not sure what the hell to think because mom is so wishy washy and dad is very closed minded. I still haven't had a chance to talk to either of them yet because of all that's going on. I think I'm going to seek help from mom's priest first then go from there but I will have that talk with her because I'm being forced to. One thing though is mom's memory not being so good however, she can remember certain things such as this then she should remember the harsh words she gave to us but I think she'll play the 'I don't remember' game but this time, I'm NOT letting it get by easily because I can't. Getting old isn't an excuse anymore either. It can't. They're the ones who put me in this position, not my husband so I have to find the 'right' way out and I will some how.
My nephew, his wife and three boys came down yesterday and we all had a wonderful time seeing them. My nephew just graduated the police academy and is now a deputy and we're all so darned proud of him. I let him read my discussions however, not the responses because I wanted him to get an idea of what's going on down here. Of course with mom, dad and hubby around, he couldn't say anything but shook his head in disbelief. Later on he asked me what I was going to do and I told him that I didn't know but that I do have to talk to them. He asked me to call him and I'm going to do that because if I can't get my brothers to understand then maybe, just maybe he can. [/b]
@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
11 Jul 10
Boy, I guess you are and hope things are better. I would not discuss your fights with your parents again. I really don't have any advice, except I am wondering if they have been this way with your brothers. I cannot imagine how your husband would feel, if he knew how they felt, and knowing how much he has done for them. You are really in a situation.
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
12 Jul 10
I have to talk with them about it because they're the one's who brought it up. I hate it when anyone thinks badly of my hubby because he's a damned good man and very good to me. He deserves the utmost respect not cut downs like my parents are doing. I feel this way, if they can speak what's on their mind, why can't I? I wish I had now for things wouldn't have gotten so far out of hand as it has. Anyway, I still haven't had a chance to talk to mom yet because of all that's going on. I think I'm going to seek help from mom's priest first then go from there but I will have that talk with her because I'm being forced to. One thing though is mom's memory not being so good however, she can remember certain things such as this then she should remember the harsh words she gave to us but I think she'll play the 'I don't remember' game but this time, I'm NOT letting it get by easily because I can't. Getting old isn't an excuse anymore either. It can't. They're the ones who put me in this position, not my husband so I have to find the 'right' way out and I will some how.
My nephew, his wife and three boys came down yesterday and we all had a wonderful time seeing them. My nephew just graduated the police academy and is now a deputy and we're all so darned proud of him. I let him read my discussions however, not the responses because I wanted him to get an idea of what's going on down here. Of course with mom, dad and hubby around, he couldn't say anything but shook his head in disbelief. Later on he asked me what I was going to do and I told him that I didn't know but that I do have to talk to them. He asked me to call him and I'm going to do that because if I can't get my brothers to understand then maybe, just maybe he can.
@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
11 Jul 10
Gee whiz Cats, Drama, Drama, Drama, don't you just hate it, I know I do. I have so much drama going on in my life, its not particularly me, its everyone around me. They bring it to me, I'm sick of it too. I just talked with a friend of mine, he said smile. I said I had an attitude with the people around here, he said murder. I told him, thats an option. Of course is not but we did laugh about it. Maybe thats an option for you, of course not seriously. I just hung up the phone and told him that if I resort to murder I will put him on my visiting list, he said he would even send me some commasary money. I wish I had some magic advice for you, I know the story with everyone. Your hubby has every right to feel the way he does, he has a right to get upset. You are his wife, he choose you to be with, its his job to proect you. Maybe you could have him read your discussion, that way he will know what is going on and how you are feeling. I have experience with moms, hubbys and attitudes, I feel for you. Good luck, I'm sending lots of hugs your way, would you send some back to me, I'm in need of some too. Take care.
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
12 Jul 10
Let me tell you Polly, I had the majority of 15 years away from my family and majority of it was P-E-A-C-E! Some times I wish hubby was STILL in the Army where I'd still have peace BUT he'd be in Iraq or Afghanistan so I'm glad he's retired for those reasons but gee, it's like trading one hell of another! Anyway, I still haven't had a chance to talk to mom yet because of all that's going on. I think I'm going to seek help from mom's priest first then go from there but I will have that talk with her because I'm being forced to. One thing though is mom's memory not being so good however, she can remember certain things such as this then she should remember the harsh words she gave to us but I think she'll play the 'I don't remember' game but this time, I'm NOT letting it get by easily because I can't. Getting old isn't an excuse anymore either. It can't. They're the ones who put me in this position, not my husband so I have to find the 'right' way out and I will some how.
My nephew, his wife and three boys came down yesterday and we all had a wonderful time seeing them. My nephew just graduated the police academy and is now a deputy and we're all so darned proud of him. I let him read my discussions however, not the responses because I wanted him to get an idea of what's going on down here. Of course with mom, dad and hubby around, he couldn't say anything but shook his head in disbelief. Later on he asked me what I was going to do and I told him that I didn't know but that I do have to talk to them. He asked me to call him and I'm going to do that because if I can't get my brothers to understand then maybe, just maybe he can.
Hugs are sent to you too!! Oh yes and big ones too!!
@GardenGerty (160978)
• United States
11 Jul 10
Not the same situation, but family is heck sometimes. I hope it all irons out for you the right way. I do not like it that this is hurting you and your husband. He is the one who will still be there, even when they are gone, and they need to understand that he loves you and cares for you. They are getting old and it is hard for them to reason it out.
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
12 Jul 10
Yes it is GG. You're so right about that. I still haven't had a chance to talk to mom yet because of all that's going on. I think I'm going to seek help from mom's priest first then go from there but I will have that talk with her because I'm being forced to. One thing though is mom's memory not being so good however, she can remember certain things such as this then she should remember the harsh words she gave to us but I think she'll play the 'I don't remember' game but this time, I'm NOT letting it get by easily because I can't. Getting old isn't an excuse anymore either. It can't. They're the ones who put me in this position, not my husband so I have to find the 'right' way out and I will some how.
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
11 Jul 10
Wow. Your family is so toxic.
How much value do you put on your marriage? Think carefully. Then choose which relationship you want to survive, your marriage or your relationship with your parents. You need to STOP listening to your parents and quit letting them infect your life. For some reason they feel the need to belittle and hurt you and try to separate you and your husband.
Your siblings are a lost cause--write them off, forget about them and don't allow them free rental space in your head. They have realized that a relationship with your parents will destroy them and you can't look to them for help.
If you can afford it, hire people to help your parents and stay away from them except for a short visit every few weeks. That, or have an honest talk with them, just the four of you, where you can lay out the issues and tell them their behavior MUST stop or your visits will.
The example of the cane tells me that your husband is looking out for you and loves you as well as respects your parents. He is a jewel, from what I can tell, but much more of this and he might shatter. Time for honesty all around and perhaps some survival measures.
I'm sorry you're in this awful situation. I hope it gets better, I hope you get the courage to confront your parents and stop them from putting all this stress on yourself and your husband.
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
12 Jul 10
TELL ME ABOUT IT dragon! I've had to take more xanax than ever before to calm my nerves. Having discoid lupus, I'm broke out everywhere. You'd think my parents would take that into consideration but they don't. Anyway, I still haven't had a chance to talk to mom yet because of all that's going on.I think I'm going to seek help from mom's priest first then go from there but I will have that talk with her because I'm being forced to. One thing though is mom's memory not being so good however, she can remember certain things such as this then she should remember the harsh words she gave to us but I think she'll play the 'I don't remember' game but this time, I'm NOT letting it get by easily because I can't. Getting old isn't an excuse anymore either. It can't. They're the ones who put me in this position, not my husband so I have to find the 'right' way out and I will some how.
My nephew, his wife and three boys came down yesterday and we all had a wonderful time seeing them. My nephew just graduated the police academy and is now a deputy and we're all so darned proud of him. I let him read my discussions however, not the responses because I wanted him to get an idea of what's going on down here. Of course with mom, dad and hubby around, he couldn't say anything but shook his head in disbelief. Later on he asked me what I was going to do and I told him that I didn't know but that I do have to talk to them. He asked me to call him and I'm going to do that because if I can't get my brothers to understand then maybe, just maybe he can.
@kulit74 (25)
• Philippines
11 Jul 10
I can only imagine what you are going thru right now. I mean, torn between pleasing your parents and pleasing your husband. It is really difficult to be in that kind of situation especially when you really want to please both of them at all times. I really cannot remember exactly a situation in my life which is similar to yours right now. However, I agree with what you are planning to do. Talk to your parents. Let them know how you are feeling about things at the moment. Just try not to sound so defensive of your husband. Your parents are not as young and understanding as you, guys, are. So, you and your husband should try to understand them better. Your husband just wants the best for you that is why he is offended when your parents won't even commend you everytime you help them. But try to explain to your husband that your parents are already old. They need help and though it may look unfortunate on your part, but you just have to help your parents out even if you still have other siblings. Your role being their daughter should not stop from the moment that you get married and have children of your own. As long as your parents are still alive, we, as children, still should support and help them to the best of our ability. I know, not everyone would be able to agree with what I just said but that is really our role in our lives. Yes, talk to your parents about your sentiments but assure them that you are still there for them because YOU LOVE THEM. =)
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
12 Jul 10
Hi kulit, you don't know the history of my situation so of course you're going to say this however, if you'll go back and read my discussions since I came to mylot, you'll see why my parents are so deg gone difficult. My husband and I have bent over forwards and backwards for them and yet we still get sh!t on. It's not right. My husband is a good good man and doesn't deserve to be talked about in such a way. My parents have been down right mean and at times cruel to us and my husband got tired of it and let them know it. I've tried a few times but as always, it goes in one ear and out the other. I doubt this talk that I have with them, when ever it happens, will be any different but I have to at least try. If they can't figure out by now that I love them then it's not going to be my problem anymore. We've done so much that they should already know.
@danishcanadian (28955)
• Canada
11 Jul 10
Not exactly like that, but I've been put in strange positions, usually by my husband's family, who make my family look normal. lol I have reasoned with him enough that he and I stay the he'll out of their problems, and we donl get them involved in ours.
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
11 Jul 10
Well, my husband and I are all my parents have. My brothers are four and five hours away so if my parents need help, they call us or they used to. There isn't anybody else unless dad were to call my brothers but he won't. We're not asking for a halo or anything of the sort but some respect and appreciation would be nice. The hateful and down right mean remarks just aren't called for.
@leenie50 (3992)
• United States
11 Jul 10
Hey Sweetie,
You know how much I care for you both and I hope you'll listen to your friends. I think you are right. You need to get it all out on the table with your parents. If it blows up, then at least they know everything and leave them to sort it all out. My fear is that they will not accept their responsibility in this whole mess but at least you've tried.
The important thing is for you and hubby to get this huge burden off your shoulders so you and hubby can renew your relationship.
Love Ya,
Leenie
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
12 Jul 10
Hi Leenie, We're in for some bad storms in the next few hours so if I'm not on messenger, that's why. Anyway, I still haven't had a chance to talk to mom yet because of all that's going on. I think I'm going to seek help from mom's priest first then go from there but I will have that talk with her because I'm being forced to. One thing though is mom's memory not being so good however, she can remember certain things such as this then she should remember the harsh words she gave to us but I think she'll play the 'I don't remember' game but this time, I'm NOT letting it get by easily because I can't. Getting old isn't an excuse anymore either. It can't. They're the ones who put me in this position, not my husband so I have to find the 'right' way out and I will some how.
My nephew, his wife and three boys came down yesterday and we all had a wonderful time seeing them. My nephew just graduated the police academy and is now a deputy and we're all so darned proud of him. I let him read my discussions however, not the responses because I wanted him to get an idea of what's going on down here. Of course with mom, dad and hubby around, he couldn't say anything but shook his head in disbelief. Later on he asked me what I was going to do and I told him that I didn't know but that I do have to talk to them. He asked me to call him and I'm going to do that because if I can't get my brothers to understand then maybe, just maybe he can.
@paula27661 (15811)
• Australia
11 Jul 10
I don’t know your husband but my opinion is that he is a very patient man, the way he helps you with chores for your parents and I would guess that it may be understandable that he may get a bit fed up of their demands. It is a difficult position to be put in and it isn’t fair of your mother to divide you and your husband by making comments like that about him. Your hubby is right in feeling annoyed when they don’t treat you as they should and probably finds it difficult not to say anything. I have problems with my parents too as they are very dysfunctional people. The choices I had was have it out with them and hope for changes but that didn’t happen because they are old and too set in their ways; we resolved our issues by building boundaries between us and them and standing up to the nasty comments that come our way every so often. I got to the stage where they don’t hurt me anymore, they just annoy me! Maybe you and your husband could try taking to them first…Take care Cats…
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
12 Jul 10
Hi Paula.... It's a hell of a position to be put in, isn't it? Still, right is right and wrong is wrong. There's no way around that. I still haven't had a chance to talk to mom yet because of all that's going on. It's got to be with me only and without my husband because it's better this way because he doesn't know what mom has said or dad even. It's best that I do it alone. I think I'm going to seek help from mom's priest first then go from there but I will have that talk with her because I'm being forced to. One thing though is mom's memory not being so good however, she can remember certain things such as this then she should remember the harsh words she gave to us but I think she'll play the 'I don't remember' game but this time, I'm NOT letting it get by easily because I can't. Getting old isn't an excuse anymore either. It can't. They're the ones who put me in this position, not my husband so I have to find the 'right' way out and I will some how.
My nephew, his wife and three boys came down yesterday and we all had a wonderful time seeing them. My nephew just graduated the police academy and is now a deputy and we're all so darned proud of him. I let him read my discussions however, not the responses because I wanted him to get an idea of what's going on down here. Of course with mom, dad and hubby around, he couldn't say anything but shook his head in disbelief. Later on he asked me what I was going to do and I told him that I didn't know but that I do have to talk to them. He asked me to call him and I'm going to do that because if I can't get my brothers to understand then maybe, just maybe he can.
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@besthope44 (12123)
• India
6 Oct 10
Most time, its my work..with ontime deliveries and work loads. I try to divert mind on music and i feel better. We need to manage stress, as it is part of life in busy world.
But if we concentrate, we can manage it. I does it through my yoga, listening music and going out on vacation.