snakes
By TheRealDawn
@dawnald (85146)
Shingle Springs, California
July 12, 2010 3:53pm CST
So last month R killed a rattlesnake on our property. Clearly a rattler is a danger to children, and that's why he killed it, even though he is basically an animal lover and would have been fine with leaving it alone if we didn't have children.
Seque to last week. The neighbor killed a king snake. Why? His wife doesn't like snakes. So I really wonder if these people know that he just killed a snake that kills rattlesnakes. Or cares.
Was fear of snakes a good enough reason to kill a non-venomous, "helpful" snake?
I think it was dumb myself...
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15 responses
@koalatbs (2229)
• United States
12 Jul 10
Well personally, I wouldn't know one kind of snake from another and I am terrified of snakes! Yuck! My brother-in-law loves them but he lives out of the country so I wouldn't be able to call on him for help. lol
I guess I'd probably kill it, just depends where it was and how big it was. If it was in my house and couldn't capture it, then it would be survival of the fittest. lol
If it was outside then probably not because that is where it lives.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Jul 10
King snakes are pretty obvious though. It's easy enough to tell them from the rattlers. In some areas where they have coral snakes, I can see killing a king snake because one can be confused with the other, but not here.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
13 Jul 10
People are scared of snakes and this is a worldwide phenomenon. There is sort fear psychosis almost in every individual and therefore regardless to their being really dangerous or not they get killed.
Soon we spot a snake the first thing that hits the nerve is it could bite and on such happening we could lose life. The only logic to console is that most of us are not aware of the fact as to which snake is poisonous and which is not.
Being on the safer side too holds water.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Jul 10
Especially in an area where there are a lot of poisonous snakes, react first, think later makes a lot of sense. But here, there is only one poisonous snake and it looks nothing like a king snake. A little education on the subject would not be a bad thing.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Jul 10
I love those channels, especially the programs about animals.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
13 Jul 10
You are correct. A little education on the subject would save both snakes and men. I often watch programme on snakes on TV on Discovery or Animal Planet Chanel. It has taught me a lot and now I am not that afraid of them as I would before.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Jul 10
and the dogs came back in a panic and the door to the house was open (is there a holding your nose smiley here?)...
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Jul 10
She may not have known, but her husband knew it was a king snake.
Of course, this is the same dumb neighbor who sicced her dogs on the black and white cat that came into their yard. Sadly, twasn't a cat.
@much2say (56087)
• Los Angeles, California
13 Jul 10
I have been "here" all my life - and I pretty much know nada about snakes - or at least dealing with living where snakes are about. I don't think I'd even attempt killing any kind of snake myself because what if it tried to bite me (venomous or not!)?! I'd probably call someone to take care of it for me - too bad the Crocodile Hunter is no longer here. I had no idea that that king snakes killed rattlesnakes . . . I learned something here on myLot today!!
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Jul 10
It's kind of amazing actually. I saw one of them do it on a nature show. They somehow roll over the rattler's head to pin it down so it can't bite them.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Jul 10
The neighbors or the snakes?
The axe might come in handy.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Jul 10
Especially if you have a lot of them that are poisonous!
@GardenGerty (160978)
• United States
13 Jul 10
My granny would kill any snake that was after her chickens and eggs. We roamed around the 160 acres all the time. I was never present when a snake needed to be killed, but I would even give a rattler his space, and I was taught as a kid to do so. There were several varieties of rattlers on their property. I am not afraid of snakes in general.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Jul 10
I'm not either. But if the snakes got killed off, what about the mouse population? Cats?
@cloudwatcher (6861)
• Australia
13 Jul 10
Hi Dawn. We had a red volcanic soil sugar cane farm until we retired 12 years ago and moved to town. Australia has some of the most venomous snakes in the world and we had our fair share of the Eastern browns and red-bellied blacks. We also had harmless green snakes, but in the red soil they were hard to distinguish from the brown.
I'm somewhat ashamed to admit to killing a large number of snakes, but like Richard, I could not have snakes in the back yard where my young sons played. Snakes are not usually aggressive unless they are surprised, but a child could easily unintentionally invade their space, so any snake was immediately despatched. If it was OBVIOUSLY a green snake, it would be shooshed back into the cane.
I would not kill snakes now - not even Eastern browns - unless a child was in danger. Actually I LIKE snakes and find they are very restful to handle.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Jul 10
You do have more than your fair share of venomous snakes there. I wouldn't risk leaving one around that might bite a child either. I wouldn't say I like snakes, but I can tolerate them and handle them if they're more or less tame.
@scarlet_woman (23463)
• United States
14 Jul 10
i'd say not.when they get overrun with pest species like rodents as well they might learn though.
my dad was like that..hated snakes.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Jul 10
I wonder how she will deal with an infestation of mice. (evil grin)
@geojb90 (470)
• Galati, Romania
12 Jul 10
I also have problem recognizing some snakes but I know how rattlesnakes look like. I don't know much about the king snake but reading this discussion has helped me learn a thing or two about them.
In my country I only have one kind of venomous snake and that is the Viper snake so I don't have any problems encountering to many venomous snakes.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Jul 10
Even rattlers can be hard to identify. The babies don't have rattles, and there are some harmless snakes that have similar markings. But king snakes don't look anything like rattlers. And the neighbor killed it knowing full well that it was a king snake.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
13 Jul 10
I would also probably kill any snake in sight, not caring if it was a threat or a non-threat!
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Jul 10
ah well that is a natural fight or flight reaction, I guess
@froggieslover (3069)
• United States
12 Jul 10
Hello dawnald, I am not quite sure how I feel about this topic. I absolutely hate snakes but have never killed one but then again I have fortunately never been close enough to one that I have felt like it would hurt me and that I needed to kill it but I might. I am not familiar with what snake is venomous and which are not so if one ever came close to me and I felt like I could kill it I probably would whether it was poisonous or not because I wouldbe too scared to even care...but if I had the chance to run away from it I would do that first.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Jul 10
I would get away from it too. If I ran into an aggressive snake, I doubt I would have anything on me that I could kill it WITH anyway....
@vandana7 (100604)
• India
13 Jul 10
I think most people dont know the difference between one snake and the other. It is fear that makes them behave like that. Our minds have been filled with so much bad about snakes that we dont fear rats as much as we fear snakes! Trust me rats can be really filthy and they bring in diseases that can kill many at one go!!!
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
13 Jul 10
And snakes eat rats, so it would probably not be such a dumb idea to leave the snakes alone, at least the non-venomous ones. Education.... :D
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Jul 10
hi dawnald I remember in my teens killing a rattler with a hoe as it was determined to bite me and I was just as determined it would not bite me. But we never killed king snake,bull snakes or the dainty little green grass snakes.the little grass snakes are actually sort of pretty too. These snakes eat bugs and other creepy crawlies t hat we really do not
'need. I am scared of poisonous snakes but not just an ordinary snake.
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
12 Jul 10
I'm not even afraid of poisonous ones from a safe distance. But even a harmless one would creep me out if it surprised me.