I Hate Liars
By dorannmwin
@dorannmwin (36392)
United States
July 14, 2010 12:47pm CST
So, I had an issue with one of the two playgroups that I'm involved in and the short story of it is that there is a huge lack of communication. I will get an email from one girl and it warrants a response and I will respond to it. Even asking questions in my response email to never get a response.
Well, after I brought up my issues, I got an email from this girl saying that she could have sworn that she'd responded to me, but she didn't see it in her sent emails. I'm thinking that she knows that she wasn't responding and was trying to cover up her failure to do the right thing. I was on the verge of not being mad at this person, but what I perceive to be a lie makes me mad all over again. You see, the incident this month isn't the first time that this kind of thing has happened.
So, how do you feel about people that lie to you? How do you deal with a person when you believe that they've been lying to you?
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16 responses
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
23 Jul 10
dorannmwin,
Like you, I do not like liars too.
I will usually let it pass if the lie does not unjustly implicate or discredit or affect any one in reputation or put them into dire consequences with people or with the law.
As for your friend, I do meet these people at work as well and if it does not affect the company or too many people I will not expose them. I will try and find out the reasons for their lies and see if there are any reasons for their inability to come clean with me.
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
26 Jul 10
dorannmwin,
Precisely!
There are times we must say no and/or enough and this is one such moment where we should not hesitate.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
28 Jul 10
I am so glad to know that there are people that agree with me.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
26 Jul 10
You are right, the incident with myself didn't impact too many people but myself. However, I've since learned that I was not the only person that this same thing had been happening to and that is the reason that I've decided to leave this friend and also this group of people. I feel like my life will be much better for it in the long run.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
14 Jul 10
From what you've posted here I have come to the conclusion that it's possible that she's just busy and possibly scatter brained so she actually did forget to reply.. though I'm sure you have other reasons to believe she's lying. I can't understand why she'd lie or refuse to respond.. but as I said, you must have your reasons to believe she's done so.
I don't like being lied to either, and in the future I would avoid getting close with a person who's lied to me.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Jul 10
The reason that I believe that she is lying is because it is not the first time that this exact same thing has happened with the exact same person. If it was an isolated incident, then I wouldn't think anything of it, but when the same thing happens repeatedly, then I think someone is trying to cover things up.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
15 Jul 10
Some people are just forgetful or scatter brained like that. I wouldn't automatically assume they were lying to me though, even if it does happen all the time.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jul 10
You could be right. I think that is the reason that I'm giving them a few more days before I come to my final decision.
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
15 Jul 10
Well if I don't have to, I don't deal with them. Once, OK, maybe they did forget, but many times? I don't think so....
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jul 10
You are right. I think this is a case of one time, shame on you. Two times, shame on me. I don't have to deal with it.
@cream97 (29087)
• United States
15 Jul 10
Hi, dorannmwin. I will eventually leave them alone. They know that I know that they are lying too. And they still continue to lie anyway. When they get like this, I will not bother with them. I don't like being around people that can't tell the truth if it means saving their own life! This girl knew darn well that she was not responding back to your emails. Don't let her fool you for one second. Play her for the fool and leave her completely alone.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jul 10
What really stinks is that in order to totally eliminate this particular girl from my life will also hurt my children somewhat as well. However, I don't know that I want them to be associated with those whose parents are teaching them that lying is acceptible.
@eurekafemme (5877)
• Philippines
15 Jul 10
She was giving you a very lame alibi to cover up her shortcomings...
It is possible to encounter a liar in our lives. However dealing with them varies upon the degree of a lie. If the lie has been committed to protect me from getting hurt at the moment then, I can forgive. And will not take that against the person who lied to me.If the lie was committed to cover up something that is wrong and more painful then I don't think if I can handle it.
for me, I deserve the truth. I can handle it no matter how painful it is But, lies, I doubt if there will ever be an easy way to deal with it...
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jul 10
In this particular situation, I have complete faith in the fact that the reason that the story was fabricated was to cover up the truth. These are the lies that are especially difficult to deal with.
@ilann1 (372)
• Israel
15 Jul 10
How do I deal with a person I believe that have been lying to me? First of all I would ask all of the person's closest people about him as a person, is he honest, is he truthful. I would ask them about the thing I believe the person is lying about, it sounds like a big work but it isn't; all you you do is ask, get answer and that's all. If that doesn't satisfy me, I'll ask the person straight ahead and get it out of him/her, and tell him/her that if I find out s/he's been lying I will be angry with him/her.
Other than that, I don't see any other ways to deal with a person you believe is lying, since the truth is in his own hands and not yours or anybody else's.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jul 10
You are right. I voiced my concerns to this girl and it seemed that things were better for a couple of days, but I have very little faith that it is going to stay that way. I'm starting to honestly believe that to leave these people out of my life is the best thing that I can do.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
15 Jul 10
hi dorannmwin I hate that too when I feel sure someone has lied
to me and is covering it up. I lost three sweaters here where
I stay at this retirement center.I knew where I left the sweater'adn went back and someone had taken it I guess. I asked at the front desk
as they have a lost and found, no it was not there so my question was'
who took it as if they wear it I will recognize it. the girl at the front desk squirmed and would not look up at me. She did not respond so I got to thinking someone said she gathers old clothes to give to the poor and I wou ld bet my three sweaters went into her charity bags.not fair at all. not fair. if she had just left it on the chair where I left it I would have found it again. so now I am a lot more careful.When someone will not talk to you directly and cannot face you I am pretty sure they are fibbing to me.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Jul 10
You are completely right, eye contact with a person is one of the prime indicators of knowing whether or not a person is lying to you.
@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
14 Jul 10
i usually let it go and just never believe anything else they ever say to me. which is the point im at with sons girlfriend visiting right now. yesterday, she started wash on a tuesday, during the day when i had told her we do it on weekends when its cheaper on electric bill. well, son had always told me doing it on weekends is best and it was NEVER my idea in the first place. she did some this weekend so why im thinking and even asked her and she just said oh,i forgot about that. so, when son came home and i mentioned it was her and not i doing laundry, he said hed mention it to her.Well, dont you know, she came up with that the dog had vomited on the bed and she had to wash...which son threw up to me... so, realising this was her excuse instead of just saying shed forgot, like she told me. i decided shes one of those that makes up a lie given more time. so, i told son, well shes washing both their bed things and her sons bed things, im just glad the dog didnt make it to my bed imagine the look i got...lol.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Jul 10
I'm glad that the dog didn't get to your bed either. I've heard some lies in my life that are almost plausible, but this situation definitely wasn't one of them, it was simply a matter of the fact that she'd forgotten and was afraid to admit it in my honest opinion.
@savypat (20216)
• United States
14 Jul 10
I have no time to waste on liars. If I find you are lying to me and I find out, I will just write you off. I am forgiving if you make a mistake or just plain forget to do something as long as you are honest with me. The Lord only knows these days how often I forget something. But if I do I will tell you, not lie to cover it up.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Jul 10
That is exactly what I am going to do with these people. This isn't the first time that it has ever happened either.
@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
15 Jul 10
Dora-
It's definately a difficult position to be in. On one hand you want to give your playgroup the benefit of the doubt, but on the other hand it is a great inconveinance and let down. I would see if you could arrange a time via the phone to actually sit down and share your thoughts face to face. I realize that getting together is part of the problem, but solving them via email seems impersonal, and it seems as if it is not working. Simply give her a ring and let her know you want to have coffee with her, just her, and discuss your playdates. You may even want to bring your planner with you and schedule out playdates, if the discussion goes positively. If when you meet you find that you're just not getting a committed vibe from her, I would politely tell her that you just do not feel it is working out.
I understand that it is very possible she lied, but to point this out by simply yelling at her and calling her a liar will do nothing more then burn bridges. However, going at from a practical point of view-schedules, it may allow her to see her own reluctance and have her evaluate her own behavior. It also may be very possible that she thought she replied, especially if she has more than one playgroup.
I would just do my best to handle it calmly, not burn my bridges, and start looking for other playgroup opportunities. I hope this all works out for you.
Namaste-Anora
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Jul 10
Well, I've already found another playgroup to be involved in, so I don't think that I will be losing as much as I would have lost before this new playgroup started. However, it is something that is difficult to deal with.
@much2say (55665)
• Los Angeles, California
14 Jul 10
I guess it depends on who the liar is - and what they're lying about. For instance we have one longtime friend who makes the lamest excuses why we can't get together on a particular day (you know he's lying when he makes a whole long speech out of it) . . . we know he's lying because we'll catch him in a lie by another one of his stories later on. Or he'll tell us he only has 20 bucks for the week - but turns around to buy a $200 star wars gadget. But - his lies only make himself look bad - so whatever - we forgive him - hee hee. I don't like liars in which it affects me personally . . . I will get mad (though maybe not to their face), I won't forget, and I will most likely not believe them about anything anymore. I get irked when it comes to playgroup/playdate moms, particularly when it comes to scheduling things. I remain civil and diplomatic, but inside, I WILL remember who the liars are!!
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Jul 10
See, it is a playgroup mother that I'm referring to and this isn't the first time that it has happened with her. It is awful to think that there are mothers that pass these kinds of traits onto their children and I suspect that is what will happen with her four children.
@babygirl3605 (78)
• United States
15 Jul 10
That is a hard one. I can't stand to be lied to. I do know that if you think about doing something hard enough. You can think you really did it. That happens to me sometimes. If it does happen often then ya I agree with you. She is lieing. I had that happen to me earlier today. I sent someone a message but didn't see that it was sent. Good luck with that.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jul 10
You see, it isn't just one person in this group with whom this same thing has happened. That is the reason that I don't tend to think that it was really an accident. An isolated incident I will accept, but multiple instances from multiple people is a whole different thing.
@woodman321123 (356)
• China
15 Jul 10
I hate someone tie to me too , expecially my good friends . I had a good friend who cheated me of my money before , So I never keep in touch with he again after that time . And I will be sad , when I recall this thing . Do you have the same situation before , my friends ?
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
16 Jul 10
There have been times that I have been in a similar situation, but it is a lot clearer to me in this situation than it has ever been in the past. Additionally, this hurts me more deeply than any of the prior experiences ever have.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Jul 10
That is what is on the verge of happening with this particular person. I've already had a slight distaste about her for a while and acts like this make it worse.
@funorb12 (456)
• United States
14 Jul 10
It depends on what kind of lie. I could deal with lies that are told because of their own safety and well being. I do not appreciate lies that are told to cover up a lazy act and just, and gets me flabbergasted (not sure if it is a word.) If your going to slack off, admit instead of trying to go a long way and hid the truth. People these days!
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Jul 10
The specific lie that I am referring to here is a lie that involves laziness and that is what is really making me upset about it. It regards an email that I sent and never got a response from. She claims that she thought that she'd responded to the email that I sent her and couldn't find it in her sent mail box. I also have to point out the fact that this is not the first time that it has happened.
@edwardjoy2000 (2387)
• United Arab Emirates
14 Jul 10
Its bad when someone lies to you...and its even more sad when your loved ones lie to you. I dont like liars, but i know there will be some reason for it.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
15 Jul 10
I don't think that there was a reason for this except for the person to keep their own good name.