The Past or the Present
By JoieGahum
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
Philippines
July 18, 2010 11:51pm CST
I really want to get married. I have already asked my boyfriend of almost three years to marry me thrice, but his reply is that we do not have money yet so getting married is not yet possible. Now a former boyfriend of mine who claims he was looking for me for years, found me thru Facebook. He took my number and immediately called me. We had a realtionship 5 years ago and he wants to get it back.Before this past relationship showed up, I was never my boyfriends priority. Now comes a past relationship that wants to get back, marry me and is making me number one on his list. Who would you choose if you where in my position. I am quite confused right now.
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31 responses
@angemac23 (2003)
• Canada
19 Jul 10
Marriage doesn't matter...if you love the person you are with and he loves you, than it doesn't matter if you are married on paper because that is all it is. You can be with someone and be in love without being married. Being in love is all that counts. Marriage will not make any difference in your relationship except you will have a large bill to pay for for a big party that is mostly for the benefit of the guests. Would you want that hanging over your shoulder if it is not necessary??
@angemac23 (2003)
• Canada
19 Jul 10
Being together is a commitment too....two people can respect each other and be committed to each other without being officially married. And commitment and respect are not more important than love, they are all equally important. If a couple NEEDS a piece of paper to tell them they are committed to each other, etc, than maybe they shouldn't be together. Many marriages, and I mean many, fail because of lack of commitment...that piece of paper means nothing when there is a divorce rate as high it is!
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
19 Jul 10
I disagree. Marriage is a commitment. That piece of paper says you will be with this person forever. Without it, you can just up and leave. Children deserve 2 parents. Commitment and respect are more important than love. If a man respects you, he marries you.
The party after the wedding doesn't have to be expensive. I know many people who have just had cake and punch or a backyard barbecue, or even a pot luck party.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
Im getting wonderful arguments to consider here.Thanks ladies. Being together and being married for me is both a commitment. But sometimes being together and not married is also a matter of convenience. Love binds this two types of relationships, but a marriage has a stronger bond,it's sacred. Relationships come and go, but marriage is something worth fighting for.I am not saying that a relationship is not, but I want a husband,someone I could start a family with. As a woman, one dreams of getting married of starting a family. I believe I am worthy to be asked by a man to be his wife. A person who truly loves me will not deprive me of that simple dream.
@lixiaoyan (178)
• China
19 Jul 10
I can't absoulutly understand the meaning of marriage,because I am still a college student,it has a far distance from marriage.But I think I can realise your mood,sometimes I will talk about marriege with my boy.As my opinion,your boy's idea is right,I think he does not want to marry you,but he just wait to the moment when he can offer you enough money ,a good living enviornment,he just want to makey your rest life happy.If I were you,I will wait for him ,but not choose the ex one.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
19 Jul 10
But what if happiness for me is spending the rest of my life with him, with or without money? how can money complicate things like love and getting married? I just don't really get it.
@lixiaoyan (178)
• China
19 Jul 10
But when your love decrease as time pass and you have to concern about living,money,everything about life.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
I won't marry a person whose love for me decreases through time.
@angemac23 (2003)
• Canada
20 Jul 10
Before you make your final decision as to who you chose to be with, make sure you are making the right decision! You could be leaving a great guy just because he doesnt want marriage,,,,,jsut becuase the other guy wants marriage, it doesn't mean he is a quality guy or the right guy for you....marriage is just a very small part of a relationship...you can have a great relationship with someone without being married and you can still commit to each other without the piece of paper to prove it! Think priorities....will you happy getting married even if the guy is not good to you or would you be happier with a guy who loves you unconditionally and will do anything for you but doesn't want to get married?? Think carefully before making any rash decisions that you will regret later and it will be too late to go back!
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
21 Jul 10
I guy will definitely get married someday. If my boyfriend continuously gives me the "I am not ready" and "it's not yet time" excuse, it is but time for me to conclude that he wants to marry someday, he just dont want to marry me. A guy who truly loves me will make me his priority, a guy whos really into me will not make me feel unsecured, unlove and make me cry at night. A guy who is willing to do anything for me and will love me unconditionally but DOES NOT WANT TO MARRY me is just like a bestfriend, not a husband or the guy who will make me his wife, a guy who would like to spend forever and a day with me.
@pinky31ps (142)
• India
20 Jul 10
see you need to open up your mind and heart. first of all try to see who really loves you. do the hell with is top priority list. just try to observe both of them and find out who really loves you. if your present bf is not ready for marriage right now that doesn't mean that he is wrong. he has got a point. before getting into such a big thing you should let each other settle down in your careers. let him be what he want to be. he must be having dreams regarding his job. and even you must be having such a thing inside your mind. it's not that you want it right now which makes it perfect time to get married. gal don't rush into things. these are serious issues. plus before settling down you must be financially secure. if you are secure then you will no face problems later after marriage because after marriage you will need money to settle down. moreover career can't be made after marriage because person's mind gets divided as he will be having so many responsibilities. so try to think from his point of view. this is what we call love.. ookk..
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
21 Jul 10
Have you read the book "He's not so into you?" A man who truly loves you will not make excuses whether it's money, emotional issues or other things. If he truly really loves you, nothing can stop him from getting the girl of his dreams.
@sweetloveforeve (13120)
• Portugal
19 Jul 10
aww godd :( you still have feelings for your past bf? thats what i think. so you must not choose none of them for now. you must understand what you really feel and who is the guy that you really love. anyway about your actual bf he now wants to marry you and made you his first priority bcs he is afraid to lose you. he is afraid that if he doesnt marry you now you go back to your ex. thats it he really doesnt want to lose you. anyway i think you must be honest with your actual bf and tell him that you are confused and need time to see who you really want to be with. thats the best you can do^^ wish it helped you^^
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
How can I say that to my present boyfriend? He completely ignores me everytime I give him the "let's brea up" or "I need space" line. How can I say that to someone who does not listen?
@sweetloveforeve (13120)
• Portugal
20 Jul 10
you have to make him listen. you have to say i have something important to tell you and if he tries to run away of it you say or you listen to what i have to say or we break up right now! i need to talk with you so listen to me. you need to be direct and say what you really feel. dont let that he goes without listen to what you have to say to him^^
@gdvicente (20)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
Marriage doesnt require much money. If both of you would really like to be at peace thru marriage, it can be done right at the moment. But then your present bf says you dont have money yet and as you have said, you were not his priority... and here comes your past bf looking for you. Follow what you heart whispers. Be fare. Balance your feelings. If love to your bf now doesn't exist at present, why stay? If you still love your past bf and loves you back still, why let go? I hope i have contributed. Good luck.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
Thanks for the advice. At the moment I am erally considering my past boyfriend. I am just making sure that his intentions are true and of course I am trying not to rush my decision.
@zed_k4 (17589)
• Singapore
20 Jul 10
That's quite a tough choice, huh. Well, ask yourself who do you love the most, and who deserves you for sure. If your current boyfriend is not doing anything to persevere your existing relationship and is not working towards a marriage between you two, he might not be interested after all. Look out for the tell-tale signs, whether he's just using it as an excuse not to get married; the financial situation, that is.
On the other hand, the ex-boyfriend whom has resurfaced all of a sudden, you might want to ask him.. why now? What makes him look for you all of a sudden and then decide to marry you. Do not choose him if you don't really love him and for the sake of marriage. This is my opinion/advice... sorry if I've said anything wrong. Compare the personalities of the two guys, list their bad and good points and hopefully, you'll get a-hold of the light on things.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
A list of their good points and weak points. That's a brilliant idea. I would consider it. Thank you. I hope I really make a good decision , a right one.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
My feelings are really confused. Its feels like I love them both.
@phyrre (2317)
• United States
19 Jul 10
That answer really depends on a lot of things.
How did your relationship with your ex-boyfriend end? There must have been a reason that you two are no longer together. You have to take that into consideration when thinking about this because even though some time has passed that doesn't mean that reason is any less valid. I broke up with my ex because he annoyed the crap out of me because he was way too clingy and I know that even if I wanted to try with him again (though I don't) that wouldn't change at all.
Also, is there really anything wrong with your current relationship? I mean, you've been together for three years. Are you really willing to go ahead and throw that away so quickly for an ex? It's something you need to consider. And if he says you don't have the money to get married, is he right? You seem like you're mad because he says that, but is that the truth? You have to understand that if you get married with a real church wedding it's likely to cost anywhere from $2,000 - $5,000 or even more, depending on how lavish you get. We tried to keep our wedding as inexpensive as possible and even had a double wedding to cut the cost and we still spent about $2,000 for everything.
Besides, why are you in such a rush to get married? Marriage isn't about status. You don't get married to bear that title. You get married because you're both ready to and you want to spend the rest of your lives together. In fact, you can spend the rest of your life with someone without marrying them, and I've known plenty of people who have done that, too. Don't choose the person you want to be with just because you think they might be ready to get married. Choose the person you're with because you love them and would want to be with them, whether you marry or not.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
I have issues with the financial thing in getting married thing because when he rejected my proposal, he told me that HE WOULD MARRY ME IF I HAVE SAVE 1000$. Why would he need me to have a thousand buck before he marries me? It feels like I need to pay him for him to decide to marry me.
@jayemway (16)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
If you're boyfriend really loves you, he would have grab the opportunity and find ways to be able to push through with the wedding, but you can't also blame him, perhaps he wants to be secured financially and if you really love him as well you should understand. If you would prefer just marrying regardless of the financial capabilities your boyfriend is in now, explain to him and if he still refuse then there's something wrong with him. You would rather choose you ex-bf who I presume is more than willing to marry you now. Love will follow later. Good Luck!
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
He wants to secure his family first. his family is always first. I have no issues with that, but it seems that his family will always remain first. I am like his shadow, always at the back.He doesn't have concrete future plans for our relationship.
@sriroshan (2585)
• India
19 Jul 10
The decision in this case is purely yours as it is you only who knew both your friend But from your writing it seem your past friend is much serious about the future, but since he has come to your life after gap of 5 years I think you don't know much about him. Hence it will be better that you should married with your present friend
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
But my present boyfriend has already refused marryng me twice.
@waterproofpaper (139)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
For you, who do you think deserves your love??
The one you love or the one who love you most?
The one who look for you and didn't stop until he found you and want to be with you for the rest of his life..here are only 2 choices, but it's hard to decide..
I really want to help but it's your heart must be the one to decide..
I'll just pray that you'll choose the best..
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
That's what I feel right now. Imagine, he's been looking for me all this years to pledge his love and even asks me to marry him. My heart is really having a hard time deciding. But thanks for the support all mylotters are giving to me.
@inocentes (78)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
The decision lies on you. How well do you do this two guys you have. Its not a question of past and present as long as you know whom your heart belongs. Marriage is a life time commitment thats why you have to be very choosy whoever your partner will be. Seek the Lord's guidance so He will guide and help you choose the right guy. Good luck
@kjhilton (4)
• Australia
20 Jul 10
Well i have been with my partner for 8 years and we are not married and I don't think we will ever get married as he doesn't really believe in marrige. We have a child together and we live together. So for the best part we are "married" and we are happy. And as much as i would love to get married and have a wedding and everything, I would never give this relationship up just because somebody else wanted to marry me, unless I was more in love with this other person.
So i guess you need to decide who you want to spend the rest of your life with and maybe think back to when you were with your ex and why you broke up with him in the first place. Will it be worth sacrificing your current relationship. I think you need to take marrige out of the equation and see where your heart is, because if your not in love with the one you choose whats the point of being married.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
Of course I want to be married with someone I love and loves me. Marriage for me is more than a sense of commitment, it's a sense of knowing he wanted you to be his and his alone.
@TheCatLady (4691)
• Israel
19 Jul 10
I would ask your current boyfriend what his intentions are. Give him a time limit. If he can't set a date for the wedding within x amount of time, it's over. Give him a month or so.Tell him your not going to invest more time in a relationship that is going nowhere.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
I have already done that a long time ago. I told him I want to get married as soon as I hit 27. I want to have kids and I want to spend more time with them. I also told him that if he wont marry me by that time, he better find someone else because I definitely will. It's been 3 years and he still doesn't have a concrete plan for the two of us, I know it will hurt but I would need to move on. Id rather do that that be stuck with him not knowing if he really wants to marry me or not.
@zenki08 (700)
• Philippines
19 Jul 10
Okay first you would have to ask yourself why you want to get married? Is it because you love your boyfriend or you just like the sound of it?
Marriage is a sacred thing you must get married for the right reasons. Now it seems you are contemplating on this past relationship because you are entertaining the thought that he might want to get married. This guy from the past might want you back but the question is do you love him that much to actually marry him.
The scenario which you are in needs a lot of thought because you just might end up making a mistake in the long run my friend.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
I still love the guy,my past boyfriend, but I can't afford to hurt my current boyfriend.It's like I am Bella Swan in Twilight, torn between choosing 2 good things. I know it's selfish, but it's not that I self-inflicted this issue to myself.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
19 Jul 10
I really hope that I wont regret my decisions when it comes to relationships and getting married.
@qianyun6 (2067)
• China
19 Jul 10
Your present boyfriend is partly right. And if his procrastination is only due to economic reasons, I should appreciate his responsibility. Recently a colloquialism is very frequently seen in Chinese blogs, forums, etc. Its meaning in English is "Marriage without bread is like a bubble, it's always fragile."
Above is my personal opinion. I don't know your condition clearly, but I think marriage is an important event in one's life, your decision should be made discreetly from your deep heart.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
19 Jul 10
As much as I can, I would really want to marry a guy with no issues with money. If I were a boy who happens to find the love of my life, I would take the chance to marry her before someone else does. I expect to experience the same thing.
@aldawn22 (224)
• Philippines
19 Jul 10
I'm positive that your situation right now is difficult.For us women,marriage is very important compared to men.But I think you are luckier than others who are in your situation that also wanted to have a family.Lucky in the sense that you have two men or you had a prospect already unlike those who wanted to get married but still they don't have any boyfriend for now.For me marriage is sacred because you will spend the rest of your life with this partner.So I think we have to be meticulous in choosing our partner to whom we will grow old with.Regarding you ex-boyfriend,I think it's not right to consider him again right away just because he is financially ready.Try to find out if the love is still there between the both of you.Your current boyfriend is just being practical,I think he is just preparing well for the future because he just wanted to give you a bright future.Don't rush things and just enjoy what you have right now.Actually I didn't vote to any of the two boyfriends,I am voting for your happiness.Good luck! :D
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
Thanks for the advice. I am really thinking hard on this issue. I just dont get the fact that people should be practical when deciding to get married. I am assuming that people get married because of love, not because they are capable of providing the needs for a family. All of us are capable of that.
@cursoralbert99 (412)
• Malaysia
19 Jul 10
it's an issue between your emotion and rationality.
don't make any fools mistakes which lead to regrets and despair.
better consult your trusted person in the world regarding this matter. since this matter involving 2 feelings, all possibility of hurting anybody should be considered.
by the way, I guess that the ex-bf of yours won't suffer much than the current one whom you involve in.
so, act wisely and consult trustable person in your life for solutions.
@JOIEMARVIC (2335)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
Actually my past boyfriend suffers the most because he knows the situation,that I want to be with him but I can't because I already have someone else. Then again, he chooses not to give up and fight for me until I decide to choose him or to let him go. I know, I'm selfish.