Who is Paying the military salaries?
By TexLadyPj
@TexLadyPj (1328)
United States
July 19, 2010 6:02pm CST
I was sitting here watching the news and a question crossed my mind. BP is saying they have spent $4Billion. OK, I understand that, however?
We have thousands of military personnel working on the spill. We have aircraft, ships, personnel. Who is paying their salaries? Are we the taxpayer continuing to pay their salaries?
If so, then BP is not keeping their agreement to pay ALL costs of the clean-up, at no cost to the taxpayer.
Just a question. Any thoughts?
Prosperous mylotting
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8 responses
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
20 Jul 10
I hate to argue with the responder above but BP has been paying claims to people down here in the south so saying that they're not paying anything is incorrect. They are also being fined by the U.S. government based on the gallons/barrels (not sure which without checking) that leaked into the Gulf per day.
As far as the military, I don't know if BP will be getting a bill for the equipment or the troops. The troops are on duty anyway, being paid by our government anyway, so it doesn't matter where they are. The military equipment and the fuel used is another story and I would think the government would go after them for that.
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@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
20 Jul 10
Herro spalladino
I know that BP has been paying for clean-up and income to people and businesses in the South. HOWEVER, I personally think they could speed up the claims process with less paperwork. I only know what I see on TV about having to provide IRS records for 2-4yrs.
I will say, "when?" BP pays the fines, after the appeals process...What will happen to the money? Will it be used to reimburse the losses of the gulf states? I can only hope that our worst fears of the Gulf being permanently damaged will not come true.
I hadn't thought of the government billing BP for equipment and fuel. Like you, I am a taxpayer paying the salaries of our military, as well as my retirement benefit. I am retired US military.
I appreciate your thoughts and taking time to respond.
Prosperous mylotting
@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
20 Jul 10
Herro spalladino
I appreciate you thanking for service. I thank your husband. Although we lost that battle, I believe it was the beginning of the war on terrorism. May God bless you and your husband. Is he getting care at the VA?
I did not serve in Vietnam, however did serve during that time frame at Travis AFB, CA.
Prosperous mylotting
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
20 Jul 10
Good question, TexLadyPj...I don't know what the fine money will be used for but it would be nice if it was used to help the states that have been effected by the spill. I share your same hopes as I am in south Florida and the thought of our beautiful Gulf coast beaches being permanently damaged is one of my worst fears, too.
Thank you for your service to this country, by the way. My husband is a disabled vet who did two tours in Nam.
@jamed28 (1903)
• Philippines
20 Jul 10
It is pretty obvious that the salary and all the expenses of the military is paid by the taxes of its country. And that tax came from its citizens. All country do it that way. Now it BP is involve, then the government will be paying BP, and where will the government get its money? from the taxes.
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@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
20 Jul 10
Herrojamed28
I understand that the country pays its military through taxes. My question was not just personnel, but equipment. When our personnel and equipment and fuel is used to fight this catastrophe, what will happen when we run out of money for a "mother nature" catastrophe, e.g. hurricane, floods, tornadoes. How will we help earthquake people, like we and other countries are helping Haiti.
I pay taxes just like other citizens of the US. My taxes pay current active duty and retired military.
Prosperous mylotting
@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Jul 10
I hope BP gets a bill for it, but if not, you and me and all the other taxpayers...
@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
20 Jul 10
Herro dawnald
I appreciate you taking thought and time to respond to the conversation. I'm not sure what will happen with the military expenses. Personnel salaries, equipment, fuel. I suspect that we, the taxpayer, will foot the bill. The argument will be, how do we discern the difference between civilian and military expenses. I could say, the Admiral's salary, the expenses of the Coast Guard ships and fuel, the spotter aircraft, the new Navy blimp that just joined the search.
Prosperous mylotting
@faisai (1138)
• Hong Kong
20 Jul 10
It is quite sad because whenever things went wrong with the big names, all we want is to put heavy fines on them and turns all the blames to them as if they are the devil. We usually simply forget that it is us allowing them to do whatever they had been doing at the first place. Heavy criticism is placed on BP of the offshore mining of fuel but I seldom see criticism on those legislators that agree this kind of activity at the first place.
Accidents are.... well... accidents. I am pretty sure BP doesn't want this to happen so if they already agree to bare all the cost, I think we should not keep blaming them for what they didn't intend at the first place.
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@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
20 Jul 10
Herro faisai
It is sad that the catastrophe happened. I believe that BP contributed beyond the accident definition by their carelessness and inattention to safety procedures.
How do you pay the families of the lost oilmen.
Another question, on topic, yet off. What about the families of the coalminers in VA?
That too was contributed to by the company.
Did we as a government contribute by turning a blind eye? Probably. Money talks. Lobbyists talk. Legislators listen to lobbyists who give money to their home states.
If we could turn the clock back, I'm sure major corporations would do things differently. I have heard the phrase, "hindsite is always twenty-twenty!"
I appreciate you taking to the to respond. I look forward to hearing from you again.
Prosperous mylotting
@MagicalBubbles (5103)
• Canada
20 Jul 10
Oh Im pretty sure BP wont be paying at all. Yes they say they've spent money but I for one dont believe that.
Im afraid all the American citizens will be footing the bill......sorry!
PS: we had a smaller spill here and we'll be paying too. Im fed up of paying for all the stupid people..........oh wait......maybe we're the stupid ones?
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@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
20 Jul 10
Herro MagicalBubbles
I know that BP has paid quite a bit of money towards clean-up, I was specifically asking about the military expenses. I have read the next response and will respond to them individually. I appreciate you taking the time to respond. Looking forward to seeing your responses in the future.
Prosperous mylotting
@lacieice (2060)
• United States
20 Jul 10
Since none of us know the terms of the agreement between the government and BP, it's very difficult to answer your question.
However, I would like to believe that the government will charge BP with ALL costs associated with the cleanup, including paying the military personel that are working on it.
I do think the administration is wise enough to have included everything in the estimated cost.
@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
20 Jul 10
Herro lacieice
Let's look at the other side of the issue. If the government bills BP, will that cause BP to go bankrupt, then what happens?
I appreciate you taking the time to respond to this discussion.
Prosperous mylotting
@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
26 Jul 10
Herro lacieice
You are probably on target. It is just a fear that we in a poor economy have. I see everyday the damage from the oil. I wonder how long it will take to clean the Gulf, 5years, 10years. We also have the oil below the surface that is killing a lot of life in the gulf. Hopefully we will not get a storm until the catastrophe is stopped. Then aggressive clean-up can start. We also have the problem of the dispersant that is killing so much life in the Gulf. At least some fishing is beginning to come back. Now for the tourist business to return, sooner, than later.
Prosperous mylotting
@lacieice (2060)
• United States
20 Jul 10
Hi...I don't really think any of this is gonna cause BP to go bankrupt. All conpanies have funds set aside for this type of situation, and, although their profits will be down this year, I think they can well afford to pay all damages and clean-up costs. They make billions and billions a year...this is a drop in the bucket for them.
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@dorothyDauphinee (534)
• United States
20 Jul 10
if it is the us military you are referring to then yes we the taxpayers are footing the bill !
@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
20 Jul 10
Herro dorothyDauphinee
Yes, I was referring to the US taxpayers, including myself. I file and pay taxes every year. I do wonder if we as voters can change this idea? Our primary option is voting. How many of us will use this option at midterm elections?
Prosperous mylotting
@TexLadyPj (1328)
• United States
20 Jul 10
Herro 2004cqui
I agree with you, I'm not sure we will ever understand the total damage of the catastrophe. We can rebuild buildings from hurricanes, floods, earthquakes. How do you rebuild the Gulf. I appreciate you taking the time to express your thoughts.
Prosperous mylotting