Groupism On Mylot ???
By K.Rajib G.
@krajibg (11922)
Guwahati, India
July 21, 2010 10:24am CST
Groupism on mylot? Yes, just the other day one of my friends told me that if I were on mylot I should be careful of this. On query he told me that people over here are divided as American group, Canadian group, Philippine group, Indian group, Australian group and so and so forth.
I was wondering if that was true or a corrupt version! Since my joining this site I have made several hundreds of friends across the globe and have been receiving responses and comments from all corners till date. And why should I take care of that?
If it is applicable on others I do not know. But one thing is for sure that I am nowhere near any group or have indulged in any groupism. I respond on both friends’ and non friends’ posts. All go randomly with me. Only one thing that I have observed is that if I happen to respond on the relatively new users the possibility of getting a reply or comment is too slake. Or else everything is OK.
Are you in any group if at all? Just curious?
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77 responses
@saphrina (31551)
• South Africa
21 Jul 10
Let me see here, sweetie.
My group is the whole mylot.
I have friends that are close to me, but that does not mean we are a group.
No offense, but i think your friend should look at the mylot family from another angle.
He did miss something, i just don't know what.
TATA.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
21 Jul 10
Hi saph,
So is mine. The whole mylot is my group if I am to be in any group at all. And as I have stated I respond to all irrespective of caste, creed, religion or language or culture me out of it.
Of course responding to friends only does not make it a group. I have 530 odd friends on my friends list. And I know most of the are in hibernation now for I have not seen them of late.
Yeah, my friend (?) must change his angle or angel for sure.
thanks.
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@vandana7 (100297)
• India
21 Jul 10
Honestly, that is BS! It is not based on nations I think, as much as known friends and unknown friends. If that were true, nobody would negg lamby!! :) No - it is differences in thinking, political or otherwise, that creates those feelings rather than any such nationality affinity. At least, nobody has misbehaved with me so far. While so, I will admit, I like Philippinos. They seem to be much more softer in nature, and yet light hearted folks. I wish I could be like them. :)
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
21 Jul 10
hi vandana,
I too felt it weird when heard. Some believe such practice being on the go but I have not felt so honestly. the statement must be biased. Might be my friend had some bickering or heavy verbal fight with users from other nations. and hence dropped to this conclusion and advised me to be careful, huh.
I will tel him on the face meeting the next time that all his version was corrupt - a virus rather.
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@vandana7 (100297)
• India
21 Jul 10
Can you find just anything wrong with guys like Prime? I know Zed is hyper sweet, but Zed is just one person from that country. Others from his country are not like that. But in general (I have many phillipino friends out here so I can dare to say so) they are lively and fun and no controversies and affectionate people. May be I have a Philippino gene somewhere. :)
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@tutul0045 (2630)
• India
21 Jul 10
Hey,
LOL yes i have heard about it too. But never really saw any such group. I don't stay here for a long period of time either but if it exists then it's a shame.
I'm not in favour of grouping at all and this site has a global flavour which makes it so very interesting.
Just like u have written i respond to everyone and i want people from everywhere to respond to my discussions also.
Cheers,
Tutul
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@tutul0045 (2630)
• India
22 Jul 10
Hey there, I’m doing very well, thanks. Very busy in my work and I hardly get time to catch up with you guys . Anyways how u doing? And how is life treating you?
Regarding group-ism yes u r right that there must have been something fishy going on here as we keep hearing discussions about it. A friend of mine started a discussion like that and he wanted to make an Indian group.
Well in my opinion it's a shame. You know its like creating boundaries like we have in the world map and we will need a visa to get an entry to other's discussions, lol.
What i can say is that people who are too active here have a bunch of friends and they respond to each other even though when they have nothing valid to contribute. And thus the discussion gets into the top rank and many others despite starting a very good discussion don't get the attention it deserved. May be that’s creating some rift between mylotters
Cheers,
Tutul
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
21 Jul 10
Hi tutul, after a long time pal!!how is everything?
Back to the topic. This is why perhaps my friend cautioned me. He must have got a hint and this made him to this conclusion. Our outlooks go alike for we here to share and make friends and participate in discussion that we feel we could contribute to.
But I am wondering while people out here with slake compositions are at the top of star rating those with quality stuff are still stuck where they were for months together. Does not it bear some thing fishy going on in the corner?
Thanks for sharing.
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@zandi458 (28102)
• Malaysia
21 Jul 10
hi raj, I have heard of the rumours circulating when i first joined mylot. I guess there must be some grains of truth to the rumours. The worse part is they work together to rate a person down. That may explain why some of us remain static in our star ranking. If it is true then admin must act immediately before the good name of mylot is tarnished. I remain an independant lotter who enjoy the facilities offered by this site.
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
21 Jul 10
Hizand, yes, even if it is a rumour something of the sort must be lying somewhere. I too did notice that while people with slake inputs are enjoying a high star ranking why ours are not changing. You and I know about our contribution out here and by virtue of that our star should have changed colours. but not.This is been almost five months I am with the same red one with the same position
This is not possible for one person to pull you down if anything of that type is taking place here. it must be a collective effort. and this speaks aloud about group or lobby thing quite clearly. If so the mylot admin should take a note of this.
Personally I do not belong to any group if it really exist. so to speak I am universal.
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
21 Jul 10
That is very well said, Zandi. It is not right for one group to attack or negatively rate another group for being different or whatever. I can understand friends coming together to support another myLotter when they are being harassed, especially when it is a personal and vicious attack, but that is not about "groups", in my opinion, but more that myLot is a type of family that does not like to see other users being bullied or abused. Once the incident is over it is in the past and people move on ... or at least I hope that is what happens.
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@SomeCowgirl (32191)
• United States
21 Jul 10
There's really no groups here. I respond to anyone as their discussion interests me. From any part of the globe, or from any walk of life, it doesn't matter to me. We are here to make friends, not flock together. Sure we all get into a pattern of responding to a lot of people we consider friends, but we venture off into other discussions too, like this one here for instance.
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
21 Jul 10
Hi some,
So to speak I am too a lone individual out here interacting with all either in the form of response or comment. You stand firm on your feet it looks or else why would you bother to drop here and put your say?
Mylot is like a small village. If at all some are divided over some issues that is a different thing altogether.
thank you for sharing.
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@ET28LV (1890)
• Latvia
21 Jul 10
I hope there isn't any of this groups, because I am here alone in none of this groups. I have more than 600 friends here and they respond from diffrent countries. I am always respond to friend discussions where I am interested. Yes like SomeCowgirl we here isn't to make groups, but make new friends and make this place better. I do not like any corruptions.
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@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
21 Jul 10
Unfortunately, I have heard a couple people complaining about this or suggesting that a certain group needs to "stick together", because they are being "picked on" by other myLotters. I will not state what country these people are from, because I do not think that they are representative of that country, especially since I have many friends from that country and our interactions have always been very pleasant. I think that the people that say things like this are a minority, and they do not really speak for what is happening on here. The funniest part of the whole situation, in my opinion, is that many of the ones doing the complaining about being discriminated against have a higher star than the ones that they are accusing of being the bullies.
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
21 Jul 10
Hi purple,
Why a certain group needs to "stick together"? Whichever country it might not be the suggestion is negative in my view. About the star I had not complained but felt that way after reading zandi's response. You must have come across some users here with erroneous English composition but they are placed at the higher star than those whose input is all quality and without any syntactical mistakes are still there where they were before. It could be due to the fact that people do not rate the discussions of those at all.
Whatsoever, we are here for sharing and learning new things since we differ in our language, culture, belief and so many other things.
thank you purple.
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@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
21 Jul 10
Mykl - Little bit, but then again it is rather difficult not to notice when they say these things repeatedly in certain user's discussions.
Kraj - No, it was definitely meant in a negative way. There were a few that used to show up in some member's discussions and would only address themselves to each other saying that people of their country were being discriminated against and they needed to "stick together", because they were the only ones that made "quality contributions" to this site. I have not seen many of them in a while, so perhaps they are no longer active. It was also never about whether or not their English was correct or perfect, especially since at least a couple of them spoke (or rather typed) perfect English. Besides, we are not supposed to judge people on how well they do or do not speak English, and most users do not do this. Usually, the only time that it comes into play about English not being someone's native language is when there is a misunderstanding about a response, and then sometimes members need to ask for a clarification, but that can happen even with members that speak the same native language.
@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
22 Jul 10
There's GROUPIES in Mylot?!
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@ShepherdSpy (8544)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
24 Jul 10
Just having some fun with the subject..If there's a Band or Group on tour,groupies are those fans that'll do ANYTHING to get close to their Heroes!
@derek_a (10874)
•
22 Jul 10
Well, I have not really found any groupism here. I have friends from India, Phillipines, USA and other countries as well as my own here in the UK. I guess sometimes if there's a disccussion about the area that I live in or the stores that I use that catches my eye, it is because it is familiar. Otherwise, I am eager and thoroughly enjoy making friends from other countries and learning about different cultures. I would say if you have a chance of communicating with someone from another country, just go for it.. _Derek
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
23 Jul 10
Hi Derek,
I wish if all had thought your way!! But there are some of course who are looking for a chance to create differences. I really discourage them if they are up to such an action.
I said the same thing elsewhere that if anything is posted and that is about my country and I feel I can well relate to it I surely pop into it and none should come to conclude that I belonged to that group.
Or else I have friend all across the globe and love to add more from other nations which are not any representative here in y list.
@primeaque86 (8108)
• Philippines
22 Jul 10
NO I am not.
I admit I have many friends and I actually search for their
topics but there is no group-ism at all
They are American, Indian so on and so forth
I do not know that this thing would work all out in here
Because the advantage if this virtual community is meeting
people from around the globe
and learn from each of them
I do not encounter such group yet so far....
and for responding discussion, even you are my friends
but when I could not relate to the topic
then I have to seek for another
juts like what I am doing at this point.....
God bless and happy mylotting....
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
22 Jul 10
Hey Prime and Mario. I know that there are myLotters that I am friends with, and if I see them commenting in a discussion, then I will generally try to drop into their response box and leave a comment, but I don't think that is groupism. I think it is what myLot is all about ... discussing things and furthering the conversation all over the boards. I will just as easily pop into the response box of someone that I don't know or have not had interaction with if they say something that I can add my comments to whether I agree or disagree with them. I do not limit myself to a specific group be it region, friends, colors, species, etc., although I am sure that there are some members on here that wish I would be a little more "picky" with where I choose to respond!
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
22 Jul 10
Hi prime,
I get your point. Of course we are not here to play dirty politics or form groups. The purpose is to meet people from around the globe and know about their life and thought on various topics via the discussions posted by different users on here.
this is not my look out as who has started the discussion or if or not that one is in my friends list. no partiality, no disparaging. Just a simple go.
@purple.
Yes my friend, within this short period of acquaintance and exchange of thoughts and ideas with you I have discovered that you do not indulge in any discrimination. I do not think this is an offense to drop at any post and a leave a comment. Rather it reveals how much you have opened yourself up being a part of this community. if this is interpreted on the wrong note this is surely uncalled for.
@Anora_Eldorath (6028)
• United States
22 Jul 10
Rajib-
We're lying to ourselves as humans if we feel we are immune to feelings of prejudice, feelings of want to belong to a "group", or the like. It has how clans first began in the dawn of time was a need, perhaps because of basic needs, to belong to something common. Yes, we've evolved over time but this need is still here. It is why we hear people state they are "American", "Canadian", "Indian" and the like. It is the innate need to label ourselves with something.
It is that part of any pathwork towards enlightenment that works to transcend this need. It is noble that people have posted they have no need, they belong to no group, and that this sort of separation does not exist on Mylot, but that is a lie and not one to be swallowed. Though, it is very easy to swallow because it makes our ego feel good about itself.
There are subtle groups, groups of friends that exist. Those you'll find who all answer to the same posts, etc. There are those groups in said categories that exist only for a few exclusive members-those with an interest in those categories. If we did not have groups for as you mentioned then there would be no tag for said items on Mylot to begin with, but there are. Why? Because of our human nature to define ourselves by labels.
Do I feel that these groups are all malicious? By no means. Some are very positive. However, there is always a danger when we the individual and/or group decide to put limits on ourselves by our associations.
I say these groups are only bad or wrong when they interfere with the spiritual journey of those involved in said groups.
Namaste dear friend,
Anora
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
23 Jul 10
Hi Anora,
You have done both the pros and cons in your response. I agree the proclivity to the sameness exists as it was there when people lived in the caves. It was then a clan and now we call society or nation. Feeling for the same root never evaporates but being cultured and educated lots we try to control the feelings.
This feeling was more so in the 50s, 60, or even till 90s but now we seem to have grown up and the gulf has been to a larger extent minimised. We now feel more 'We are the world'. It inspires one to belong to the larger society.
Back to the topic, those people narrowing themselves within fixed pole are there. But as you have put unless they turn out harmful to others there is no threat or danger. and those frequently visiting each others' post can not be termed as groups but a section of like minded lots.
Thank you for the elaboration.
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@hanuma34 (819)
• India
22 Jul 10
You are quite right with your attitude rajib. There may be groups but they are not that obvious nor consequential. Here in mylot we enter into discussions, exchange our viewpoints and in friends circles you may have light hearted repartees. I do not think if there are groups they can survive or effect the growing friendship among the lot of mylottees. I see you have been longer than me in mylot. You ought to have come across a group if there is any. Even if there is one all of us have to endeavour to put an end to it and make mylottees as one group.
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
23 Jul 10
Hi hanuma,
Yes friend, some light hearted words exchanged among the like minded ones surely does not make it a group. Even if they are there they would not survive long for some users are there who are not so regular.
say for me, when my college would reopen after summer vacation in August I would not be able to give much time here. I would have to settle things for the following day and this takes time.
Thank you.
@Professor2010 (20162)
• India
22 Jul 10
Hello i don't think there is any such groups here, i have friends from all parts of the globe and i respond to discussions of friends, non-friends at random, new members..
We all belong to one 'mylot' family, no groups, no discrimination..
Thanks for sharing.
Welcome always.
Cheers.
Professor
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
23 Jul 10
Helo professor,
that is what I share too. The basic purpose of our being here is to participate in discussion regardless of the fact who has started the discussion. That is the actual thread that is binding all us together. we must learn to respect that.
Groupism or politics - these are the things that pollute any mind and any place as soon as it steps in.
Thank you fro responding.
@mmebautista28 (113)
• Philippines
22 Jul 10
i belong to one of the above-mentioned countries but i do not engage in "groupism". i believe that everyone has the right to give their opinion here in mylot and that's what i am just doing. i'm not particular with where people come from. i reply to every post that interests me regardless of the citizenship of the one who posted it.
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@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
23 Jul 10
Hi there,
Neither tat should be any one's concern. We are basically here to discuss things and there lies possibility that a discussion is not agreed by one and all. Some differences in opinion should not create a gulf which would finally divide us as one and other.
Thank you.
@AutumnGold (1056)
•
21 Jul 10
Hello Krajibg. I am in a very small group on here, I only have two friends :( I've noticed this on other sites such as Yahoo Answers, people tend to stick to their favourite group of people and only answer their questions but on here I haven't noticed it yet. I think it's best to interact with people from all countries then we get to know about different cultures and that makes it more enjoyable.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
22 Jul 10
Hi AutumnGold,
lol your group is too tiny!! And yes I know about yahoo answers. there are a lot of groups who share best answers among themselves. I am there too but not so active now. Had a got a couple of best answers as well.
But things over here are entirely different. even if some people are in the mindset of creating a fissure among the users, they are too less to influence so many of us here.
Do as binggaling has said. Put quality response or post interesting discussions, add friends you like to and one day you will find yourself swimming in the ocean.
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@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
24 Jul 10
Autumn - It seems that in just a couple of days you have increased your number of friends on here exponentially. I have also seen you all over the boards interacting and having fun, so I think that you are going to find that you will be having a lot more fun on here in no time. I have been on here for a while, and I am still making new friends and meeting new people, and it is great.
@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
21 Jul 10
No, no way, I am friends with people all over the world, not just America. Though I am sure that in each country people find their own more interesting or easier to understand, but I have learned so much about other countries since I been here and that isn't from excluding someone be being in my own group..
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
22 Jul 10
No, I am not more interested in my own country for I know my country more than I know yours. Hence there is no question of my being partial to my countryman. some might think that way. And you and me can not stop them from doing so.
Thanks
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
22 Jul 10
What about subtraction and multiplication? Nobody told me that I had to be good in math just to participate in here. I guess that I had better go do my homework now.
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@mario_stevens (6971)
• Malaysia
22 Jul 10
i don't see divisions too....
just a lot of addition
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@dawnald (85146)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Jul 10
Not that I know of. At any rate I have friends in all those "groups" and others too. It's more fun and interesting getting to know people from different places than to just stay with people from your own country.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
21 Jul 10
Hi dawn, that is the correct and ideal principle. why to narrow ourselves remaining in a non existent group? we here to share and learn things from different nationality. Everyday we know one or the other thing that is new and thats what makes one hang out here.
Thanks for nice explanation.
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@Aaleexix (2290)
• India
21 Jul 10
Very hard to create any group here on the basis of any boundary. It is right that some understanding occurs among those who takes part in discussion frequently. But it is almost impossible here to make any group. In the net world there is no boundary. Whole the world is in our hand by dint of internet. If feelings of grouping prevail here it is not but just a wonder for me. I feel pity for those people who want to crate boundary and limit their area short.
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
21 Jul 10
HiAaleexix,
Not that it is impossible to create a group. But what I feel is there is not any. Even if it is there you and me wont know.
The core thing is we should not form any such group whatsoever.
thank you for sharing.
@mario_stevens (6971)
• Malaysia
22 Jul 10
i'm part of the group that always laughs at Mario and his yellow bum.....
oh no, wait. i am Mario
@purplealabaster (22091)
• United States
22 Jul 10
Of course there are members here that tend to gravitate towards the same discussions or topics. I don't think that is grouping, but I guess it could be considered that way. I think it is more people's personalities, likes and dislikes. When we tend to encounter people often, then we form a relationship and can interact on many different levels. That does not mean that we exclude others from the interaction, though, which is what I think of when I hear "groupism". Everyone is welcome to participate if they choose to and it is also alright if they choose not to.
I have had very nice discussions with people here on topics, and I might not encounter that user on here for several weeks or even months, and then we will run into each other on another discussion and interact again. It is a large place with a lot of discussions. We are bound to encounter people that we don't know or have not had interactions with other members for quite a while, but that does not mean that we are intentionally avoiding or ignoring each other - it only means that we might have only a few interests in common, and it does not really matter where they are from or anything else other than common (or uncommon) interests.
@mario_stevens (6971)
• Malaysia
22 Jul 10
different levels of interaction...
that is just totally awesome
@mario_stevens (6971)
• Malaysia
22 Jul 10
but on a serious note...
just like society, where there will be some individuals who tend to come together and have fun among themselves, it wouldn't surprise me if the same is happening in myLot. it's like a mini-society in here. so those little psychological tendencies could somehow also be reflected within here...
@jennyze (7028)
• Indonesia
22 Jul 10
I've never heard of this, but I've noticed a group of friends tends to respond to a discussion the other friend responded. It's like a long saga. Maybe, you noticed this, too.
Well, I am from Indonesia, I guess it would make a very little group, since I encountered only one or two Indonesian here...
@krajibg (11922)
• Guwahati, India
23 Jul 10
Hi jennyze,
Please do not worry about as to from where you and I are. What should be our concern as I feel is to concentrate of the purpose we are here. If it is to twist a party like thing avenues are there at different places and definitely not mylot.
I too had not heard before about such thing. And I do hate to categorise myself country-wise.
Thanks.
@mario_stevens (6971)
• Malaysia
22 Jul 10
maybe those are just groupies a long looong saga
i've encountered quite a few Indonesians in my adventures around myLot... and all of them that i come across are always so nice and friendly