Moving to a distant location?
By thorgrym
@thorgrym (675)
United States
July 26, 2010 7:57pm CST
So, the idea of moving to a completely new location has recently been discussed in our house. Relocating is no odd thing for me. When I was growing up, my family moved around quite a bit - mostly to neighboring towns within the same general geographic location. I grew up in Massachusetts for most of my life, though we did move to Florida for a couple of years and then back to Massachusetts.
I have lived in Connecticut, now, for almost 17 years. During that time, we have relocated 5 times. Our moves have largely been influenced by the growth of our family.
The other day, the thought of moving out of Connecticut - in fact, into another time zone - has been raised. We found an opportunity to move to a state with a much lower cost of living. We would be able to get quite a bit of land for a relatively small price. We would need to build a new home as the property is undeveloped, so this presents an obstacle.
One big obstacle is, of course, selling our current home. The market isn't spectacular and we need to at least break even on the mortgage. Of course, we would like to realize a profit, but I am not sure that is even possible.
We are trying to formulate a plan to make this a reality. One idea is to rent out our house rather than sell it. We could rent it to cover our expenses until we have gained some more equity and thus be able to sell it later for a profit. Employment in our destination is also a concern. It is far enough away that it would actually require us to vacation there for a week to scout out options.
Of course, we would really benefit from selling off some non-essential possessions and use the money to pay down as much debt as possible. It would be great to pay off the car loan and credit card. I am not sure if paying extra to the mortgage to pay down the principal is more beneficial than saving more for a down payment on the new property, though.
Any thoughts on how we can better improve our chances to make the successful move without incurring too much additional debt?
2 people like this
4 responses
@ptower76 (1616)
• United States
27 Jul 10
Seems to me that you have it pretty much figured out. I would not pay down the mortgage since you are planning to rent it out and the house will pay for itself. Concentrate on the new place is my opinion. Lamentably relocating costs and will most likely increase your debt when you consider all the miscellaneous expenses involved. So again i would say concentrate on the new place. And then consolidate all your debts when you settle in.
@thorgrym (675)
• United States
27 Jul 10
I am not sure about renting it out, though. I would prefer to sell, but I am not sure how likely it is that we can sell it and break even. I know we will incur some debt from the move, but I am hoping to minimize that as much as possible.
Thanks for your thoughts.
@thorgrym (675)
• United States
29 Jul 10
Additional income from renting would certainly be welcomed, but I am not sure that we could find a tenant that would be willing to pay the rent that we would need to collect in order to realize a profit. Definitely something we would need to explore before making a decision, though.
@ptower76 (1616)
• United States
27 Jul 10
I think if you rent it out, not only do you continue to build equity, but you can always put it on the market if things get tight. Not to mention refinance it if the need arises. Also, if you rent and are able to rent at a price where you get a positive cash flow from the rental, the little extra may help with some of the day to day expenses immediately. Good luck whatever you decide.
@mommyboo (13174)
• United States
27 Jul 10
Hi there, I happened upon your post while thinking about the fact that I may be dealing with something similar. Unlike you, I have not moved frequently, in fact my first 3 moves were in state and very close to each other, after that, I moved to CA where I still am. If we move, it's going to be to the opposite coast. I have never lived on the east coast, however I am used to the south and I do like it, so as long as it's not too different from here in terms of the towns, people, community, I guess it won't be that bad.
What part of Florida did you live in? For us, it would be a combination of several things - job advancement and potential for promotion, which is topped out here, more money, lower cost of living, going from 2 hours commute to practically NO commute, etc.
We wouldn't be building, we don't need a huge amount of land, I just want the same things we have here, 3+ beds, 2 1/2 baths, a patio, pool, and room for a swingset and outdoor kids toys. The problem we face is the same - the market is bad and if we have to sell, it will end up a short sale. Nothing in this area is valued what the mortgages are so we'll lose money either way, even if we wait another year or two. However, a short sale can be explained if you are moving due to a job offer and the company is paying to move you.
We haven't discussed the possibility of renting the house out and I'm not even sure we could. Because the values are not equal to or greater than the mortgages, it would be near impossible to rent the house out for the current mortgage payment, and if we are out of state, it will be extremely hard to make sure nothing bad happens to the property.
I've been thinking about this constantly for the last few days, because once my husband applies for any of the openings, there is a 90ish percent chance he'll get interviewed, and if he gets interviewed, I bet he'll get the position. Then the move would be imminent and I wouldn't have much choice but to deal with everything as quickly as possible. I would prefer to take a weekend to go see the area, meet with a realtor and look at properties for rent, scout the town, find out from residents about community activities, schools, and then make a decision, but it will be expensive to fly and stay, even for a weekend. Either way, whether we short sale our current house or decide to rent it out, if we can get at least what we owe on it each month, we will not b purchasing right away, we'll just be renting, probably longterm. We'll need to get out from under this one somehow and then come up with a down to buy something, and if we are wise, we'll wait awhile and scout for the home we want to retire in, and then purchase that.
We have two grown kids, one is almost 21 and the other is 19, and then we have a 6 year old. The big kids will both be out of the house, one left right after graduation, the other is getting ready to leave for college. They were really the reason we didn't consider moving earlier. I don't want to move, I am really worried about it lol. I'm not sure if you can move without incurring debt, moving is expensive, even if you move one town away. Cross country moves can get crazy, what with packers and movers, vehicle haulers, uhauls, and extra hands to help you.
@thorgrym (675)
• United States
27 Jul 10
We lived on the Gulf Coast. Cape Coral for about a year followed by Naples for another year. Cape Coral wasn't much of anything, then. It's neighboring town, Ft. Myers, was much bigger. It was so long ago that nothing would even be recognizable to me now.
You definitely seem to be in a very similar situation.
@daliaj (5674)
• India
27 Jul 10
It is a good idea to move if you are sure that you can find better opportunities to advance your career and other ways of making money. Moving is always involved with some risk. Don't take an immediate decision without thinking about the situation. I moved to a different town thinking that I could find better opportunities and a better job. I am still confident, but I couldn't find a job yet.
I moved to this place and found a nice appartment at a reasonable rate. The only problem is regarding the job. It is better to find a job first and then move. Economy is not in a good shape and there are not many opportunities. Don't decide blindly and make you regret later. All the best for you. I'm telling again to be extra careful and think well before taking the decision.
@thorgrym (675)
• United States
27 Jul 10
Opportunity is exactly why we would be moving...but it isn't the job opportunity. We would be moving in order to realize some of our dreams - to get off-grid and be more self-sufficient, to build our 'dream home' on lots of land, to lower our cost of living, to reduce our environmental impact (and maybe negate it entirely), and the list goes on.
I agree that the job market is shaky, but from what little I have seen so far the cost of living is that much lower in the state we are exploring than it is here in Connecticut that we could get by on a lot less than we currently do.
Good points. Thank you for sharing.
@abitosunshine (765)
• United States
27 Jul 10
Not knowing your profession, but you could utilize online headhunters to find you jobs. There would be telephone interviews and if the company's interested further, they'll fly you out for an interview. You can generally contract with them where they cover moving costs if hired. All this is dependent upon the profession, of course.
Your idea sounds like a good one and I wish you luck in bringing your family's dreams to fruition.
@thorgrym (675)
• United States
27 Jul 10
I am currently collecting disability due to my MS symptoms, so I am not currently in the job market. I have seen some improvement in my symptoms over the last year, but I would not make a terribly reliable employee to anyone in my current situation. I am trying to replace my disability income with some sort of home business so that the only person that I have to answer to regarding my reliability is myself. I do have a few things in the works, but none of them have made a big financial impact yet. My wife works but would like to find something different. She is working nights at the moment and it is slowly killing her.
We want to move out of our townhouse and into something with more land. Connecticut is just so expensive that we really need to relocate in order to do that. If we could find something here, that would be great but I just don't see it happening.