With Friends Like These
By aurorastorm
@aurorastorm (1131)
United States
July 27, 2010 6:06pm CST
I have two really good friends, one is a neighbor and one is my best friend who I have known since Elementary School. They both complain a lot, which I have talked about on here. The thing I have noticed now is they are always telling me how bad their life is, how stressed they are and sometimes even asking me if I will help them with this or that to make things easier for them. I never mind helping out anyone when I can.
However it seems lately it is all about them. They never ask me how I am doing, if I need help with anything. They are good people, but how can I consider them so called good friends when they never seem to be concerned with any issues I might be having in my life. I don't choose to stop being friends with them, but I need to change the dynamics somehow and I don't know what to do.
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10 responses
@sid556 (30959)
• United States
29 Jul 10
Hi aurorastorm,
Maybe because you never ever complain or ask their help then they just assume that you are strong and doing well. They sound as if they are so caught up in their own issues that they don't even pause to consider that others also have troubles. A good way to test this would be to let them know sometimes that you need a shoulder or a helping hand. You might be surprised to find them more than willing to give you a hand, lend you an ear. If they are not then I would say that this is definitly a one-sided friendship. It doesn't mean that you have to avoid them if you enjoy their company but maybe not be so willing to go all out of your way for them. Even the score a bit.
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@aurorastorm (1131)
• United States
30 Jul 10
Very astute of you. I am very strong but not doing well that is for sure.
And again I do have other people in my life who do ask me how I am doing, my mother, mother in law and other friends of mine, but when your 2 closest friends don't inquire it does upset me.
I think I need to sit down with each of them and explain how I have been feeling and give them the chance to be the good friend I feel like they are.
@Angelgirl16 (2171)
• United States
28 Jul 10
Hi aurorastorm,
As I was reading your discussion, I started thinking, "are these three really good friends?"Then I finished reading with a better understanding of the situation. If you haven't seen your friend from elementary school days, how do you know if she can still be your best friend? What constitute a title "best friend?" Usually, you grow up and move on with your life, making new friends.
Anyway, it seems that your two best friends are really taking advantage of your kindness and generosity. Maybe they forget to be concerned about your well being because out of the three of you, you are the strongest link. They may thing that you don't need to be taken care of because you are a strong and an invincible woman, you think?
If you are this strong and invincible woman, you must find a way to take control of this situation of me,me and me some more from your friend. You may find cleaver ways of saying no or you may just say no, I can't do this or that or I don't have it right now.
Whenever, I have a prolonged situation, I practice scenarios in my head, so that I am well armed when the real situation arises. It works really well for me, I usually am not caught off guard.
You have the power to choose.
@aurorastorm (1131)
• United States
30 Jul 10
That is the thing, she really is my best friend. When my brother passed away, she was there for me everyday, moved in my house for a month to help my family. We were each maid of honor in each others wedding, there when we gave birth to our children. I should have said this is a more recent thing with my best friend. Just lately noticing it, but again maybe I am at fault for hiding some of the pain I am dealing with right now, when it comes to finances.
The other one has always been this way, but in other ways she really is a great person. So neither one is a friend I would give up, but you are right I need to handle it differently.
@Angelgirl16 (2171)
• United States
31 Jul 10
Hi,
Yes, it does sound as if you two are best friends. You have been through a lot together. Maybe you shouldn't try to be so strong and let her know that you are not this invincible woman that she may think you are. Sometime we need to let our guard down. I hope it all works out and the friendship grows even stronger.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
28 Jul 10
You know what.. that sounds a lot like me. I'm a complainer. I complain about my kids, I complain about my stress, I complain about my husband's hours. Anything I can complain about I will (my mom was the same way). To top it off, I love to talk about myself, and love to have people listen to me talk about myself.
Anyways... I sort of realized on my own that maybe I put people off with all my complaining.. because I did dump a really good friend because I eventually got tired of all her complaining (but there were other good reasons too). I also realized all on my own that sometimes people may not want to hear all about me. Sure I think my stories are interesting, and so far nobody else has told me I'm boring... but still it's not much fun for people to sit and listen to you talk and never say anything themselves.
So though it's difficult for me because I've always been a complainer who doesn't shut up.. I do now try to make a concious effort to complain less, be positive more, and let other people talk and actually listen to their stories.
I think perhaps your friends don't really realize they're doing this.. it's just become habit to complain and yap away. I know it's hard, but I think you should try to make them aware of how they're acting. Tell them politely that they complain too much and that you're feeling bad that they aren't asking you about what's going on with you... You said they're good, close friends, so they should not take offense, and it will open their eyes to how they've been and hopefully they will make an effort to change that.. because they will realize people won't like to listen to them all the time, just like I realized it.
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@aurorastorm (1131)
• United States
30 Jul 10
I am going to take your advice and let them both know in a nice but firm way.
If I don't I am afraid it really will put a wedge in our friendship.
I agree with you, I don't think either one of them get it or realize how much they complain. If I could string all of the e-mails the one sends me, she would probably see how one sided it is.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
30 Jul 10
Good luck! I hope it works out for the best and that they finally realize what they're doing and take steps to change it.
@froggieslover (3069)
• United States
28 Jul 10
I think your best bet is to be honest with them, if they are such good friends like they claim then they will understand when you tell them how you are feeling. I am thinking that maybe because you have allowed them to complain to you so much without making it aware that it bothers you that they dont realize and just keep on doing it. Sometimes it takes someone speaking up for another person to realize and you don't have to be mean about it just simply let them know that you really care about them and everything that they are dealing with and want to help them out the best you know how but it hurts to know that they don't seem to feel the same way with you because they never ask how you are doing or if you need any help...another fair thing to bring up is the economy whether it is really effecting you or not I know that I have used it as an excuse in situations just saying listen I understand that you are suffering but we all are, we are all feeling the effects from it and while I want to help you the best I can I need to take care of my family first.
It sounds to me like you are being to nice and letting these friends walk over you with their complaints...if you dont stop it soon it will never end!!! Best of luck
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@aurorastorm (1131)
• United States
30 Jul 10
I know this site will never make me rich, and that is why I came here was to make money originally, but for all the advice I get on here, I love this site anyway.
I agree with everything you said, I need to be more honest with both of them about how I am feeling and what their complaining all the time is doing. I find myself pulling away from both of them, and I am sure they wonder why sometimes. So I am going to be adult about this situation and give them some feedback on what their constant complaining is doing to me.
@clouds0327 (1389)
• Philippines
28 Jul 10
Lets put it this way maybe their life is so stressed out that they cant give attention to asking you how you doin.. I mean we have to reassure ourselves before offering help to others. How can you help others if you cant even help your self right? Well, thats just my opinion.
@aurorastorm (1131)
• United States
30 Jul 10
What you said is really true if that was the case.
The things they complain about are so small and meaningless, not real issues.
For example the one just called me to complain about doctors office visits and spending money. This one makes plenty of money and has no debt, I say to her don't even talk to me about this, when I have a 10,000.00 hospital bill right now I need to pay. She still continues to talk about it, so then I am like I have to go. I think I am going to have to tell her how I feel.
@will_win (222)
• India
28 Jul 10
I will not decider them as your friends because there is saying " friend in need is friend in deed"I really feel bad for you,what kind of friends you have ,always discussing their problems and all the time seeking help from you........i think you should tell your problem too may be they realize that you are having stressed too.......this is what i think.
@aurorastorm (1131)
• United States
30 Jul 10
After talking about all of this on here. I absolutely am realizing that some of this is my fault. In two ways, I allow them to always do this without telling them that sometimes their complaining is to much. I think they are just the type to talk to hear themselves talk and they don't mean anything by it. I think I am going to have to open up more about my problems, but still so ashamed of it all.
@ada8may21 (2405)
• Philippines
28 Jul 10
That seems really odd. Maybe they are really occupied with their life that is why they just forget to ask about you. However, did you try to once throw the question of how are they doing and once you ask that. Did they ask you what's going on with your life. Because in my situation if my friend would ask me how am I? I would definitely answer the question and ask them the same thing of how they are? through that I would know things that I will be surprised hearing from them. That's how the start of knowing situation of our friends. And that's also how I would start the conversation.
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@aurorastorm (1131)
• United States
30 Jul 10
See I think it is odd also.
My one friend and I e-mail each other everyday.
She always starts the e-mail, and most people that start an e-mail would of course say how are you, but she never does that, she does not ask one question about me. She starts off the e-mail about her latest crisis and it is all about her. Same with when she calls me on the phone.
@jennyze (7028)
• Indonesia
28 Jul 10
Well you should be proud they did not see you as lacking in anything, so they did not ask you. Instead they talk of themselves and their worries.
It might be good to be open with them and tell them about your worries, too. Hopefully they will start thinking about you, too.
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@aurorastorm (1131)
• United States
30 Jul 10
I never looked at it that way and you are right the biggest problem I have right now money issues, I have never really told them how big a worry it is, because of the embarrassment factor. So maybe I need to take some of the blame for this.
@Shinyqiu (119)
• China
28 Jul 10
I think your current situation is very serious for you to solve,u can realized that the two best friends of you don't care about your life when they don't have any trouble.Frankly speaking,best friend defined as who can share the thing what make u happy or fuss etc.so i think u be sure to tell your feeling abou this,if you conceal this terrible feeling to them,they never understand your opinion in heart.
And sometimes,like me,if u are trapped in trouble,you also complained to them what thing happen on u and give some help and suggestion from them,you will find that help your best friends and be helped by them can make u happied than before and the relationship between u will climb a new step.u can try.....^^
@aurorastorm (1131)
• United States
30 Jul 10
It is funny, there are 3 people I consider my closest friends, like sisters, these two who I have been discussing, who don't have any money stress ever. And then another friend of mine, who has a lot of stress with money also, her and I talk about everything and anything and it is always a give and take. She shares her stuff, then I share mine and to think she and I became friends at work and then became real friends.
I have some other close friends also, that I think maybe just are not as judgemental as the two above and maybe that is why I hold back. You are right though if they truly are my closest friends I should be able to be myself totally with them, so that is food for thought.
@iceamber (68)
• United States
28 Jul 10
Tell them that you feel as if...you're unimportant anymore, and that you LOVE to help them, but it's just too much about them, which is making you unhappy, if it is I mean...
They should understand and at the least TRY to help if you just let them know. Communication is the best thing you can have with friends to let them know how you're feeling and such. Remember that, and the best of luck Aurora!!!
@aurorastorm (1131)
• United States
30 Jul 10
I kind of did this yesterday in an e-mail with one of them.
I was telling her how I had a migraine, and her response back was.
Speaking of headaches, I have a headache from blah, blah, blah.
So I just did not respond, then finally she called to ask how I was feeling.
It just drives me crazy.