See the rest of the world is doing it
By lilwonders
@lilwonders456 (8214)
United States
July 28, 2010 10:24pm CST
French President Nicolas Sarkozy is cracking down on illegal immigrants in his country. He is going to "systematically" round them up and deport them. Well most of his illegals are "gypsies" so of course they are screaming "racism" and trying to have rallies to stop it (sound familiar). While the Frence president says they bring in higher crime, a drain to social programs and are illegally in the country. He is standing up for his immigration laws.
England, Australia, most of Europe, China and Canada and even Mexico are being aggressive with illegal immigrants.
So what makes us the "bad guys" for upholding our immigration laws? If you are in a country....any country illegally...you can and should get kicked out of the country. Yet you don't see people throwing a fit over the rest of them doing it? Oh no...but yet we Americans are called racist and looked at as "horrible" for trying to stop the border violence, protect our legal citizens and stand up for our laws.
What do you think? Double standard?
8 responses
@kieron3886 (34)
• Slovenia
29 Jul 10
you people are forgetting that the illegal immigrants are the ones who do the nasty lesser paid jobs that you americans refuse to do but often rely on. Illegal immigration is not pleasant but at the same time don't complain if you (as a country) partly rely on those same immigrants.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
29 Jul 10
I agree X...my state is over 12% unemployed...there is NO such things as a job we don't or won't do anymore in this state...we are just desparate for a job.
We have a large population of illegals that are taking construction jobs, landscaping jobs, and home improvement jobs that poeple around here badly want and need.
Lets get the illegals out and help put our own back to work.
@katiesueg (257)
• Italy
29 Jul 10
Your accusation may be correct, I know most of the grape pickers in California were Mexican, for example. But Americans are by no means the only ones who rely on immigrants for jobs they are unwilling or unable to do. I live in Italy and the amount of immigrants from Albania, Rumania, and other eatern European countries has reached such proportions that it is now sometimes more common to hear Rumanian than Italian spoken on the streets. They are often automatically given the blame when violent crimes are committed, but at the same time the immigrants do work that Italians are unwilling or unable to do. They often work as babysitters, or care for the elderly when their children are too busy to care for them. They are maids or do menial agricultural work. If they were all sent out of the country, I think there would be a real crisis.
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
29 Jul 10
Of course it's a double standard...but we're the United States...everything we do is wrong...until someone needs help, then we're expected to be there...and we are.
Can't win no matter what we do.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
29 Jul 10
Are you kidding...they hold their hands out for our money...uphold their own laws and then still bad talk us for doing the same.
I say sence we can't win no matter what...we do what we should do...enforce our laws. If they don't like it...they can find another cash cow to get foreign aid from.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
29 Jul 10
I don't know who's looking down on us and calling us horrible for trying to stop the border violence, except Mexico, which wants its citizens to come over here and send back American dollars. There's no double standard, because the US doesn't have a standard of any kind any more.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
29 Jul 10
Mexico is the only one throwing a fit. But you don't see Mexico throwing a fit over any of other countries enforcing their immigration laws.
YOu are right...Mexico is upset because it wants those us dollars. So it is all about what is right for Mexico and not waht is right and fair for Americans.
@elmiko (6630)
• United States
29 Jul 10
Let me be clear for a moment. Anyone who's in this discussion needs to look at the facts about the immigration law in Arizona. In order for someone in Arizona to be questioned about if their in the country illegally or not they must first be detained for a crime other then their possible illegal immigration status. The police can't just go up and ask anybody if their in Arizona illegally. That's not the way the new law works.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
29 Jul 10
You are right. It is not like AZ is going to go door to door asking people for their "proof" of cititzenship....they would have only been able to check their status while dealing with them for another crime.
@BlueGoblin (1829)
• United States
29 Jul 10
What does it even mean to be an American today? Does it mean we share a common language? No. English can't be our official language because it is racist. Does it mean we share a common culture? No. America must be diverse. It's our strength. America must be multi-culture. Does it mean we share a common history? Maybe. I'm not sure we do anymore. A lot of our history has been corrected. Note how certain statues have been removed or schools renamed because certain historical figures were deemed unsavory. Does being an American have anything do with our laws? No. Laws don't apply to some people. Do we share a common heritage? No.
At one time the country could say yes to all the following. We can't today.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
29 Jul 10
Very true...I just don't understand why we are "horrible" for wanting to enforce our laws and hold the people breaking them accountable.
@zeromidget2669 (183)
• United States
29 Jul 10
I just don't get why we won't do what is needed to be done. Its not enough to make immigration laws - We acctually need to enforce them like the rest of the World does. In some countries, the execute or inprison illegal immigrants. But yet America gives them welfare and food stamps?
Im tired of nothing being done about it. We need to arm the gaurds at the border and give them the right to shoot. Illegal Immigration would decrease significantly if our border patrol had the right to shoot, and acctually did it.
@lilwonders456 (8214)
• United States
29 Jul 10
Yep you are right. We can have all the laws we want...if we don't enforce them than we are not doing anything about the problem. We need to aggressively enforce our laws and that would go a long way to solving the issue.
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
29 Jul 10
It's more than a double standard in the context of what the phrase "double standard" actually conveys. It's a completely separate standard; a dueling standard: politically correct/socially just society V everyone else.
To people living by their separate standard, the rest of us are the ones with a "double standard," going after Latino immigrants when America itself was birthed of immigrants, citing illegal ills instead of positives, etc.
The entire PC culture is completely separate of anything the rest of us live with or live within. And it definitely has its own standards.
Just like one of the discussions I've recently seen on here, where depicting Obama as certain characters is "racist" because it's offensive to some minorities, even though the person depicting him wasn't connecting those particular dots.
In one world, that's racism. There's no two ways around it. But in the other world, the non-PC world, it's just basic common sense that a black guy can be called what a white guy's called if people are really equal.
The PC standard for any minority is that they deserve preference. That's the bottom line. Not equality. Not equal footing. But uberironic separatist preference. Ongoing reparations due to countless factors, none the least of which is, of course, white guilt.
South of America's border, it just happens out that most people are a few shades darker than 66% of America's--already considered white supremacist--population.
The PC culture is thicker in Europe, I've heard, and it's certainly no surprise that it's suddenly racism when a white guy in a white country wants to get a handle on immigrants whom most are about the same shade as Latinos. Now they're victims and whites are the oppressors.
I can't stop myself from ranting about the ridiculous irony here. The goal is, I thought, it usher in equality, where a person is judged on his or her character and not his or her skin tone. But it's just as backwards to look at a person's skin tone when they're charged with a crime and assume that's the reason and go full stop, as it is to deny someone of something due to the color of their skin.
At the very, very least, it's patronizing "minorities." And I have to put that in quotations because they're (non-whites in general) only minorities in majority white countries.
People jump on their Hitler fantasy wagon or something and just assume that their race is the only reason for it. Full stop! Just their race. They truly believe it and refuse to look at anything but the skin tone of the majority of immigrants in question.
Racism extends past slavery and lynchings. It's kept alive and well by backwards maroons who honestly believe they're helping to heal the world by crying wolf.
@knitesh (1)
•
29 Jul 10
the matter seems really to be discussed,, discussed once, twice and till this protests get down.. this is just a way to kill the issue,, huh,, americans can't b stopped.. this time they r on right side,,, and this double standard is just a disadvantage they take behind all advantages they are provided