If given a chance, I would NUKE the SWISS...
@consultrainer (4991)
India
August 21, 2010 1:41am CST
It is a shame and disgrace to the world, that there are banks that entertain hooligans, criminals, and money-launderers.
Please read politicians also in the above group.
I have read swiss bank myth-busters, and to quote them:
" Swiss bank accounts are mostly from honest people of the world, who need not be millionaires. Anyone can open an account with mere 5000 swiss francs.
To help them, we offer services through mere correspondence. send in the money, and the letter, and you have an account with us.
We are extremely cautious about politicians opening accounts with us, (*as if they have a column to declare who is a politician)_ we systematically refuse to accept any money that is of dubious origin or poorly founded, .. (again, will money carry any smell or identification regarding the nature of origin? )"
please see the link here:
http://swiss-bank-accounts.com/e/banking/7myths.html
---------------- given a chance, I would nuke these banks.. for the safety of the world, and for removing the poverty of third world. ..
any helping hands?
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18 responses
@vandana7 (100296)
• India
21 Aug 10
I completely and vehemently disagree with you CT. A banker is expected to do its job just like the milkman is supposed to do his, or the person who runs a grocery is supposed to do his. It is not their calling to identify who is good or bad. It is for us to identify criminals, and monitor them so that they dont manage to open the account. Would you rather a Swiss bank's personal have spies in our country keeping tabs on politicians and in general all activities in our country? Why only Swiss, any bank for that matter. Sometimes you sound like you've just taken some homeopathic concoction that has an effect similar to heroine!
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@consultrainer (4991)
• India
21 Aug 10
Good Luck to you in this wonderful world of hooligans.
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@consultrainer (4991)
• India
21 Aug 10
How about giving me a bazooka.. that you kept hidden in the attic? .. I will bomb you first, and then fly off to swiss, to nuke them.
@alaskanray (4636)
• United States
21 Aug 10
hmmmm...Swiss banks: the new criminals. Switzerland has always been neutral ground and now you are attacking it. hmmm. I'll have to think about that.
Frankly, I would love to have a Swiss bank account. In the US, those of us on disability aren't allowed to have savings of over $2000 but there are many things that cost over that $2000. The powers that be don't mind us going into debt for things like cars and homes but to save up for such things is not only discouraged, it is forbidden. The only way for us criminals to save up for big item purchases is to open a Swiss bank account so the Social Security people can't penalize us for saving more than $2000. So I guess the disabled are all criminals, too, eh? Frankly, it isn't the Swiss banks that are the devil. They just protect their patrons' privacy which the US constitution is supposed to do, too, but our lawyers and leaders always seem to get around that particular portion of the Constitution. I would rather nuke DC and the Social Security offices than the Swiss Banks.
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@consultrainer (4991)
• India
23 Aug 10
see, friend.. when you have an issue, you will get angry! ... and, you want us to empathize at your rules. While you are not interested to understand the situation in the third world countries.
WE don't have drinking water! .. most of us, living in professional status also, have to BUY drinking water, and spend more money, to purify that, to make it drinkable.
.... i am not asking food, and shelter. I am asking WATER! ... READ THAT?
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my topic is not about the relaxation of swiss account opening! .. I am talking about DIRTY POLITICIANS, and their hoarding funds away from the country.
@vandana7 (100296)
• India
23 Aug 10
@Alaskanray - I agree. I think if we cant have ways and means to check our politicians and systems - we shouldn't be blaming outsiders.
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@alaskanray (4636)
• United States
23 Aug 10
Well, CT, then why nuke the banks? Nuke the politicians. After all, they are the ones that are dirty.
@hexeduser22 (7419)
• Philippines
21 Aug 10
Don't nuke them now. They still hold some of the ill gotten wealth of the Marcos's here in the Philippines. It's the people's money so if you nuke them now the fight of all the victims of Marshal law in the Philippines would be in vain. Please just wait for its release then I will support you in any way I can
If others see this post they might think we are planning a terrorist attack in here
@hexeduser22 (7419)
• Philippines
21 Aug 10
A scene in a clinic somewhere in Earth:
Patient: Doc can you prescribe some medicine for me
Doc: Oh yeah I have checked your records and I found you got some swiss account
Patient:Huh?
Doc: I will now advise you to nuke your account then you can feel better after that
Patient: Err...Okay
@allknowing (136481)
• India
21 Aug 10
I am just imagining a scene in your clinic where patients are patiently waiting and you are at your laptop 'mousing' away and they seriously think that you are busy preparing their case history!!
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@consultrainer (4991)
• India
21 Aug 10
well, if you see, not one politician from the third world.. be it India, Pakistan, Malaysia, ... .. not one of the top rated politician is left off without being accused of the money-hoarding in the Swiss accounts.
and, these dirty bankers are supposedly the bankers for the NAZIs too....
all loot money reaches the Swiss. Shame/// shame///
@vandana7 (100296)
• India
21 Aug 10
Actually Swiss bank is unable to stock old paintings from Nazi times, as there is nobody paying them locker charges. Moreover, such things might get damaged. So they've decided to auction them and distribute the monies to all those who open a bank account with them on or before 31st December 2010. Now, any takers?
@nangisha (3496)
• Indonesia
26 Aug 10
Hi consultrainer!.
I think I agree with you because there are so many people from Indonesia. Especially who do corruption have account at swiss bank, I think they wash their money there.
I think they seem not mind do a money laundering in their bank. The most recent news is a son of our late president had to account there and our official try to get it back because they concluded as result of corruption but not success so far.
Do you think its swiss way to protect their country, because they don't have an army so if all bad people plus politician save their money there, no will messing with them.
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@consultrainer (4991)
• India
26 Aug 10
thanks for the agreement, about corrupt politicians, and dirty bankers.
regarding the sons and daughters of politicians, .. we can never recover the money. and, it is funny and surprising that, we have never heard of anyone ENJOYING the hoardes of millions kept in the swiss banks.
@Memnon (2170)
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26 Aug 10
Why stop there? We are forced by legislation to have our earnings paid into banks when we don't want them to be. They are earning money on what I earn by way of legalised theft.
My bank, Santander, will process payments even if there are insufficient funds in the accout- just so that they can
a) charge me for exceedeing my limit
b) charge me for the transaction
That transaction could e as little as 10 pence, and could take me 1 penny over my limit, but it will cost me £25 and £35 in charges
As an example, last year my partner accidentally quoted a wrong account number for a direct debit. There were no funds in that account. We had yet to receive a card for the account, so could not check this on a regular basis- in fact had no need to. To check on line or by telephone banking you also need the 16 digit card number.
So that was an immediate cmbined charge of £60. As we had no expected reason to check this account, the first that we were aware of this was the 12th of the following month when we received our statment. Charges run from month to month, so that meant that we had also gone into unauthorised overdraft for that month too- another £35.
I phoned the help desk to explain the mistake and ask whether they could help with the charges. No, they could not; and reminded me that I should check my account on a regular basis. I explained about our lack of card, and all the above, but he continued to read from his script. No offence to anyone here, but the call sentre was Indian and there were some language difficulties on both sides: it was impossible to hold a conversation.
So, for a simple mistake I had to find £120 to cover a £25 payment requested from the wrong bank account- £25debit: £25+£35+£35 in charges. It's not as if they sent us a letter telling us that we had gone into overdraft!
Nuke them all.
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
26 Aug 10
i am sorry about the call-center trouble.. I presumed Indians are able to converse well, but, my recent discussions with those in the UK ... and Europe, over my telephone, proved me wrong. WE speak very fast, and pronounce differently. ..
anyhow, YOUR SUPPLY of bombs is adequate for me to wipe out the banking industry.. thanks for the stock.
OUR other friend, Vandana promised some bazookas.. lols.
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
26 Aug 10
i would prefer the age-old system of delivery.. VIA sea. It is the safest and soundest.
shall i sub-contract that? .. or will you find someone existing in the same business?
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i remember the craze the FOREN-RETURNED, foreign returned grooms commanded, when the call-center business started., some decade back. lols on that.
@Memnon (2170)
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26 Aug 10
I am sure that many more will be donating grenades and bombs of many descriptions!
I used to work, indirectly, for a bank that had a specific policy to outsource 10,000 jobs to India- that was before the global melt down. They even shipped new employees to the UK for training before transferring the business. As you can imagine, that has left much bitterness, but against the company, not the individuals.
I guess that our next project should be a delivery system.....
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
23 Aug 10
it is my way of explaining that LEGITIMATE has no meaning... in this part of the argument. And, to support my comment, I have given just three instances.
... am I clear in my stand-point? .. Thanks for the support, and clarification. Else, we might stumble at a communication gap.
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@consultrainer (4991)
• India
23 Aug 10
do you know, OSAMA BIN LADEN is a legitimate citizen, now, a guest of AFGHANISTAN.
and, that the dictator of History, NAZI HITLER was the legitimate head of his country.
and, the IRAQI Saddam Hussein was the legitimate HEAD of their country?
--------------------thanks, for trying to understand.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
22 Aug 10
It looks as if you take the myths as truth. I would suppose the only reason for the Swiss Bank Accounts is to keep money from the wrong hands. I figure you are more against those who have more then 5000 swiss francs and are mainly interested in removing the poverty of the third world.
That cannot be done by force and perhaps removing the Swiss, many who are nice and decent people.
I would suppose that they would not accept political money because much of that money comes from other people, the constituents, and has to be used for a specific purpose (like build a new highway, etc.) and that money has to be towards that purpose.
As for you believing that what they wrote much of it is untrue, I would think with how long they have been in business, that they probably have Interpol around them and that anyone putting money in would be given the third degree.
Also the way to remove poverty is by showing people who to make a living, giving them jobs, and buying their products, not just by taking money from the rich and middle class and giving to the poor.
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
23 Aug 10
wrong again, dear friend.. you got me wrong.
I am not interested in the way they conduct any such business .. if you have read about some of the bank scams, ... like the INDIAN 'HARSHAD MEHTA' scam, ... there were mere calls for stringent action of the culprits. and, there were shouts for stricter controls to be fixed. .. none asked for CLOSING DOWN the banks.
but, from the history lesson, and from the present day politics of any third world, .. one needs to think again about the SWISS.
I would request you to read about the role of the SWISS, during world war 2.
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i am not against the rich..I am against the ill-gotten funds, of politicians. And, it is not giving the money to the poor. All the unemployment could be wiped off, if there are funds to stop taxing, and use the funds for development of infrastructure.
and, interpol, is fully depending on the politicians, who rule the governments.
@elmiko (6630)
• United States
21 Aug 10
i will say it is bad to have such a bank so the people can hide their wealth in other countries without paying taxes. however, countries are pushing the swiss banks to give them information about people in order to collect owed taxed money due to the financial crisis. the swiss banks apparantly are starting to cave in as their giving countries such as the U.S. as well as others information about citizens with swiss bank accounts so they can catch the law breakers. swiss bank accounts are something that should of never existed and i absolutely believe they contributed to the financial crisis.
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
23 Aug 10
thanks for the comment, and support.
it is the politicians, who operate the governments. So, it is very hard to get the information.
let us see!
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
21 Aug 10
hi consulttrainer I do agree, its the people who have done thousands out of their money who hurry to make a Suiss bank account, they dare not divulge where their money came from or they will be arrested. Its been known for years that Swiss bank accounts serve to launder money and all
other crooked money handling schemes. so go a head Nuke them.
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
23 Aug 10
[b]thanks HATLEY.. There are very few people from advanced FORWARD COUNTRIES, who empathize and understand the troubles of others..
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and, Xemnas... I repeat this again: .. I am not going to KILL. i LOVE human lives more than anyother profession. I am a life-saver. BUT, i am trying to project the anguish and anger, and trying to ask for ANNIHILATION of the dirty organization.
Do you read history? .. Please read those times, when LONDON is bombed. Try to locate the news editor's comments of those days! .. then, you will understand my words/
@veejay19 (3589)
• India
21 Aug 10
Add me to your list consultrainer. first of all who are the ' honest ' people who wouldput their funds into a swiss bank account. These so called honest people are those who have black market money or black money as it is called which they wish to hoard and hide. These 'honest' people don`t want to pay legitimate taxes of their country a nd also because they cannot account for their illegal and illgotten cash. If they declared this fraudaulent money they would be jailed. In my country 90% of politicians have their money stashed away in Swiss bank accounts and during election time when they have to declare their assets publicly what they show is merely a tip of the iceberg.If all the money stashed away in these accounts were to be released then no person in any country would go hungry or die of hunger.There would be enough left in the governments kitty to boost its economy. So i support you in this venture and its not only Swiss banks but also the numerous tax havens which shield the filthy rich from declaring their incomes and hoarded wealth.
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
21 Aug 10
thanks for extending the support. I am glad that you too subscribe to the list of those who are annoyed and unhappy with the swiss.
I have thought of starting a web campaign, but.. again, I would be making unnecessary enemies. ...
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
23 Aug 10
did you ever hear of the Mellinda Gates foundation? .. or the Warren Buffet? .. Or the CLINTON trust? .. they are giving away their earnings to the third world. .. and, they are not hoarding their money, profits and all, earned through rightful means.. to the world population.
not like the thirdworld politicians. .. Xemnas.. don't live in a dream world. COME to reality...
I am not against a NATION.. if you read, I am against the dirty bankers, who are talking something, but doing something less. I have documentary evidence, from 1935, till date, to prove my stand point.
NOW, STOP WARRING WITH ME!
@CJscott (4187)
• Portage La Prairie, Manitoba
23 Aug 10
If you nuke the Swiss, someone else will just take up the slack, someone is always willing to fill another shoes. Besides, what power does a bank really have, and I am sure all the "bad people" have their money insured anyways, so they will still have all their ill gotten money any ways.
You want to improve 3rd world countries, talk to the citizens. They allow the government to stay in power. Because they are afraid not to. With good cause mind, but they still allow it, get rid of the problem, not the symptoms, that is the only way to true success.
If I knew what the problem was exactly, I would help, but I know that where the problem keeps their money, is just a symptom.
Sincerely and With Appreciation.
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
24 Aug 10
thanks for the appreciation friend, CJScott.
you are right about the citizens, voting the looters to power., In India, still there are people who take money and booze, to cast their votes, and later suffer.
alas, there should be some way about bringing all those hooligans and looters to justice.
@CJscott (4187)
• Portage La Prairie, Manitoba
24 Aug 10
You merely have to expose their lies for what they are, and educate the populous. How to do that on the other hand is beyond me, I only know it has to start with a good education in politics, and critical thinking.
Cheers.
@vandana7 (100296)
• India
24 Aug 10
That is a very intelligent response CJscott!!! We cant nuke forever!!! Besides, innocents are there in it too!!! Not fair at all!!!
Yes, we have too much of hero worship!!! It goes on for generations!!! I agree - it is citizens who need to come to their senses.
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
23 Aug 10
oh.. thanks for the support.. I think, the topic is sure to be deleted. It has created a rift between great friends of mylot.
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
23 Aug 10
lols.. a very nice way of teasing me back.. but, thanks, I AM not going to be a politician. ..
@hexeduser22 (7419)
• Philippines
21 Aug 10
Don't nuke them now. They still hold some of the ill gotten wealth of the Marcos's here in the Philippines. It's the people's money so if you nuke them now the fight of all the victims of Marshal law in the Philippines would be in vain. Please just wait for its release then I will support you in any way I can
If others see this post they might think we are planning a terrorist attack in here
@allknowing (136481)
• India
21 Aug 10
The stacking of money in Swiss Banks has been going on even before you and I were born and no one created a shindig then and so why now? Is it because Advani brought it up that you became aware of it?He is in his dotage actually and when they were in power all was quiet at the 'Swiss Front'. If he could not contain it and follow it up with all the whip at his disposal what can poor mortals like us do. Yes. I agree with you if there is a will there is a way but this way has been blocked by those who do not belong to the group that you have mentioned. That is the problem. The so called saints could be the biggest culprits.
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
23 Aug 10
lols.. friend, .. I have been reading history, even before the ADVANIs spoke .. in INDIAN context.
and, if you read the other posts, there are MARCOs ... related angry remarks.
=============further, you seem to forget that I have mentioned POLITICIANS as a whole, as dirty. If you read the present day headlines, there are serious discussions and meetings of the central CABINET OF MINISTERS to increase the salary of members of PARLIAMENT, while we are suffering from lack of drinking water, and a lot of troubles.
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
23 Aug 10
thanks for the support, friend..
but, please also educate about this, to our other FORWARD COUNTRY CITIZENS, who cannot understand our suffering.. PLEASE respond in their boxes too, telling about your sufferings.
@rajeshkanna436 (1)
• India
21 Aug 10
Yes you said right, but in INDIA many people didn't have accounts in SWISS. where as many people who were under corruption have accounts.
@consultrainer (4991)
• India
23 Aug 10
rajesh, thanks, and WELCOME TO mylot. ...
this is what I tried to discuss. about corruption...