A hostage drama at Quirino Grand Stand
By mspitot
@mspitot (3824)
Philippines
7 responses
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
23 Aug 10
There have been recent gunshots again after the swat team tried to get in the bus. They are still clueless how to settle the ongoing crisis in the grandstand. The cops assume that the hostage taker has some companions inside other than the hostages.
Why did they not have a major hostage negotiator that the situation have escalated to this situation right now?
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
23 Aug 10
they look funny as if they're afraid to take a bullet. and indeed very very disappointing! this is embarrassing indeed. where was their negotiator, how could they have been so indeed reckless!
@basqui (3888)
• Philippines
23 Aug 10
Indeed it is getting funny but still serious situation. The negotiator should have been there at the start. Now the situation is getting out of hand. Hope the cops get it settled soon. Let's wait and see.
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
24 Aug 10
mspitot,
No offense, but I have to say that your country's SWAT team is a joke. And, I sincerely hope that this is not the only SWAT team you have in your country.
I am also shocked that your authorities did not even seem to have AT (Anti Terrorist) teams or even use them when there is evidently a need to. SWAT can only handle certain intricate situations but a hijack with an armed ex-policeman really is equivalent to that of a terrorist short of a strapped C4 explosive on his body to take down the whole bus with the special force team.
The special tactical teams just behaved like Hollywood monkeys who think 2 sledgehammers is enough to breach the coach bus. I just cannot imagine how on earth the officer in charge and the team's leader could be so naive. Also, if you have read the news on CNN, a question was being raised about the whole Philippines having ONLY 2 sledgehammers in the siege.
Also, these team members are obviously country bumpkins who do not know how to break tampered glass windows, windscreens, open or break the coach bus's main door and emergency exit door. They took 1 hour to breach (reported)!!
In all fairness, the tactical team is a joke and pathetic look at the video below. I am sure you will agree with me that you had minnows or rather some poor kids fumbling with a new toy.
Video feed:
http://video.sina.com.cn/p/p/news/c/v/2010-08-24/084561086851.html
@rexrevol (328)
• Philippines
5 Sep 10
I am a Filipino...always proud to be. But this hostage drama sure knocked my pride down. I'm really disappointed of the outcome. But I think this incident has re-opened the eyes of our Forces...I hope this won't happen again. No matter which side we look at it...It's clear for me that the training some of our Forces are undergoing is still not enough. Situations/Operations so delicate as this should have long been anticipated. But who am I to judge? If I be in that situation, I might even chicken-out. I hope this would serve as a lesson for everyone. Life is precious, we have to protect it at all cost.
@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
5 Sep 10
rexrevol,
As a Filipino, you have every right to be proud of your country and her best where one of them would be your prolific SWAT team.
Please do not forget that you have every right to be critical when these prolific country's best does not perform to expectation. Because, they are suppose to be the best (top 1 percent) but I think you can see that it was not so with the botched rescue operation that left 8 hostages killed.
The people in the elite teams like Commandos, SWAT, Anti Terrorist Teams or Special Forces are not only specially trained - they are specially selected from a very tough and horrendous selection process. After that, they are specially trained to hone and sharpen their specialties. They train so hard that mistake is not an option and I really fell off my chair when I saw the point man in the breaching team make a retreat when fired upon at the coach bus's emergency exit.
So, yes the supposed SWAT team really belonged to the pit and they should be seriously be reconsidered to remain in the teams. You need to be critical because you may never know when you or your family members or love ones might be in such a similar hostage situation. Don't tell me you would feel comfortable with such a team in your country because you will just be bluffing yourselves here.
Take care.
@rexrevol (328)
• Philippines
6 Sep 10
Well said. Anyway, there are still other events where I could be proud of...like the Ms. Universe pageant...and others.^_^
Maybe I was just expecting too much from our SWAT team, it was too soon, I think. I hope this downfall will not affect our pride to keep moving forward for a better and strong republic! I believe that every citizen of every nation has the potential to change the world for the better.
@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
I only saw the aftermath. Got home around 9pm and the whole thing went down at 8:40pm while I was stuck in traffic. We were listening to the radio about it though and I could not believe that such a simple demand escalated to killing. This would have a lot of impact on our tourism industry. To think that Chinese nationals are one of the largest contingents of tourists in the country.
@Metatronik (6199)
• Pasay, Philippines
23 Aug 10
I was in Fitness First of ABS CBN were a lot of people are concentrating on screen. I was really shocked that it was LIVE until the news was aired up to 9:00 PM which was supposed to be it is already Agua Bendita. Now I am wondering for the reason why there was hostage at the bus.
@TheAdvocate (2392)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
The hostage-taker wanted his motion for reconsideration heard that very same day. To think that he filed his motion way beyond the time allowed by law and still it was given due course by the Office of the Ombudsman for the sake of fairness and justice. He was sacked around January. Now its August and he wants to be reinstated at once. Talk about delayed reaction.
@akopoaysi (739)
• Philippines
23 Aug 10
yeah i saw the breaking news a while ago. how could he do that? he is a police officer with medals of honor. does he think that he will be reinstated when after what he did? how could be attract tourist if they can see what might happen to them? either held hostage, kidnapped or robbed.
@manilatop10 (371)
• Philippines
23 Aug 10
It was a tragic event and soils memories of my nights spent at Luneta Park.
Without sounding too critical and shifting the focus from where it should be i.e. on the victims, which deserve the best that foreign and domestic officials can provide, the response was flawed in at least two critical ways.
1. Meet force with sufficient force to eliminate the threat and let the chips fall where they may.
2. Control the "crime scene" at all costs and not let anyone within a reasonable cordon of the situation; it was a crime that so many were in harms way for so much of this tragic situation. What if the bus had a bomb?
as always, imho.
Eric
@clouds0327 (1389)
• Philippines
23 Aug 10
Yeah its a shame.. It's really traumatic for the hostages they went to tae a vacation and this is what they get from a police officer. Tsk Tsk tsk.. This is really one of country's sad history maker.