How would you feel if your country would be divided in many pieces?
By rappeter13
@rappeter13 (8608)
Romania
August 23, 2010 1:59pm CST
What it would be like waking up and realizing that you belong to another country and not to your mother country anymore? How would that be? Or maybe it did happen to you, or maybe your ancestors not too long ago? How would you feel? And the "new" country you belong to would make everything that you loose your language, your culture, your name and everything that connects you to your mother country and nation? And people from other nationality, the nationality of the new country would be brought in to this part which was taken away from your original country and in a short period of time you would be a minority, and treated liked second placed persons? please think about it and write your thoughts...
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@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
24 Aug 10
Actually you live in part of the world where this has happened. There is a region at the Black Sea called Bessarabia which belonged historically to Russia, however the majority of the population was Moladavian (Rumanian). After the First World War at the Treaty of Versailles in 1918 this region was given to Romania. so the people woke up one day and belonged to another country. Parents had gone to school and learned Russian and the cyrillic alphabet. Now their children had to learn Romanian and the Latin asphabet. What a confusion this caused! Russia never got over this and marched into Bessarabia in 1940 and took it back. The Romanians fled and did not put up a fight. It was a wise decision since they could not have fought the Russians. When the Second World War was finished the region was divided again. The Northern part became Moldova, so all the people whoever they were, Romanians, Russians, Ukrainians are now Moldavians not by ethnicity but by nationality. The Southern part now belongs to the Ukraine and whoever lives there is now Ulrainian by nationality and passport.
Another case in history is an island in the North Sea called Helgoland. During the time of Queen Victoria in England it belonged to Great Britain. However, for political and strategic reasons it was traded with Germany for another island close to Africa, I believe it was Madagascar. The negotiations were secret and the population of Helgoland woke up one morning and found they were no longer British but they were now German. Hopefully these cruel events will not happen anymore.
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
24 Aug 10
True enough, I did not mention Transylvaninia or a number of other situations such as Poland being carved up by Hitler and Stalin and then after the the second World War all the Eastern Provinces of Germany being ceded to Poland. Now all the former German names are changed to Polish names, even the former free city of Danzig is now Gdansk. Other parts of former Poland now belong to Russia. As far as I am concerned I hope these evil wars and divisions never happen again, especially in the Balkans where people don't go by their nationality (the passport of the country they live in and are citizens of) but by their ethnicity. You talk about being Hungarian, Maybe your ethnicity is Hungarian but if you were born in the present day Romania are you not Romanian? A lot of things were reality 1000 years ago. Let us live in the present. It is for reasons such as always thinking of what was 1000 years ago wars and hatred starts.
I am so very grateful I live where I live (Canada) We are all Canadians first. People here originate from over 150 countries in the world. Many honour their heritage and culture in their own homes, churches and clubs but foremost and all important we must be Canadians first and all are supposed to be equal under the law. On job applications and in official business the Government is not allowed to ask your ethnicity. The official languages are English and French. If you want to speak another language at your house it is your business but you better make sure your children speak English and in some provinces French and English or in Quebec French.
There are people here also in Quebec who bemoan the fact that this province was conquered 300 years ago by the English and belongs to Canada. They agitate and want to separate but keep all the good things that Canada gives them such as protection by the armed forces, the Canadian Dollar, Canadian pensions and free access to trade with Canada. You cannot do this! what happened 300 years ago is done, what happened at the treaty of Versailles in 1918 is done, what happened after the second World War in 1945 is done. Let us accept the realities of today and live in peace with each other. Hungarians, Romanians, Poles, Serbians, Slovacks, Czechs, Austrians, Germans, Cinti, Roma, Canadians, Americans and all the people of the world. Peace, let us keep peace.
@rappeter13 (8608)
• Romania
24 Aug 10
I see that you make the mistake that most of the western people do. Nationality is the same with ethnicity, it signifies the nation you belong to, and I certainly don't belong to the Romanian nation. Yes, I have Romanian citizenship, but I am not proud of it all, because neither of my ancestor went to live in Romania, this thing was decided by other because of an unjust treaty, and the documents were based on lies. Even the English Prime Minister admitted this. And as far as Canada and USA is concerned, the people who live there decided to go there, therefore it is a different story. But how about the people who lived there before this places being colonized? Do they have the same rights as others? It is allowed to use their language freely, and in official acts as well? I am asking this because I don't know and I would really encourage them to use it, because they are the aboriginal people there. That should be a right which they are born with, in my opinion. Of course, we can have friends from other nationalities(ethnicities, or how do you want to call it), but it is not fair to demolish a country just like Hungary was demolished. Maybe for others it is more important to have financial wealth, but we,Hungarians, and especially those Hungarians who live separated from our mother country, wish to keep our legacy, which includes language, territories, culture and everything that our ancestors left for us. Because if you know our history, you know what kind of ancestors we had.
@rappeter13 (8608)
• Romania
24 Aug 10
But you haven't mentioned anything about Hungary. Do you know what happened with Hungary? 76 percent of its territory was taken away and given to the neighbor countries. I am Hungarian and I live in Transylvania, which now belongs to Romania. But do you think that was fair? To split our mother country so much and not let us do nothing? This happened at the Treaty of Trianon(Versailles) and caused a national disaster among us. It is funny you have mentioned Bessarabia and you haven't mentioned Transylvania. It belonged 1000 years to Hungary, and after the First World War, Hungary, as a losing country, was given the most unjust decision in the history. Hungary's delegation had nothing to say to these treaty, was forced to sign it. Romania, which entered the war on the side of Germany, like Hungary as well, betrayed Germany and got rewarded for this. Did you know this? Do you know how it is? To see ancient Hungarian cities being populated with Romanians brought from Moldova and Muntenia? And our names being translated to Romanian, our grandparents were forced to talk in Romanian, although they never learned it? And there is Slovakia, which did never exist, it is a country which is formed from a part of Hungary but it was populated with Czechs, and they created the Czechslovakian nationality, which doesn't exist. In Serbia many Hungarians were killed, especially men and children. And many Hungarians were deported and banished. And they forced the assimilation. Luckily they haven't succeeded, but the number of Hungarians is continuing to fall, because many of us are treated like secondary people on the sole which is Hungarian, but now belongs to others.
@soulsshine (488)
• Bangladesh
24 Aug 10
I'm so lucky that I born after we got the freedom after a bloody war. I really don't want to see my country divided into pieces. Because I already feel bad as we were divided from India. It's really bad. I'm from Bangladesh but once we were a part of India, which was called Indian subcontinent. We were ruled by British for 200 years and when they left this region they divided the subcontinent into 2 parts India and Pakistan in 1947. Bangladesh was then a part of Pakistan because of our religion not for our culture or language though we were a thousand miles away from Pakistan and surrounded my India. We speak Bangla...and our language and culture is as same as Calcutta(India). but now we are separated. Same language, same culture, same occasions, same heritage, same history but country is different, how rude can you imagine?
In 1971 we got victory over Pakistan because they didn't give our language the priority though we were majority. They wanted us to speak Urdu and follow their cultures but we didn't do it. We love our motherland and mother language. How can we speak others language!
@rappeter13 (8608)
• Romania
24 Aug 10
Imagine that we are in the same situation. I am Hungarian and live in Transylvania, which was about 1000 years the part of Hungary. After the First World War this territory was given to Romania, and many Romanians were brought in and now they form a majority. In the first years, the Hungarian language was banned, everybody had to speak Romanian, even though many didn't know it. And other parts of Hungary were given to other neighbor countries, or in the case of Slovakia, a new country was formed. Of course, other nationalities lived among us, but this gives nobody the right to divide our country. And we couldn't do anything about this, because this happened after a war which we have lost.
@sender621 (14894)
• United States
24 Aug 10
Unity of country is so important. Living in a country so divided would not be the same. How could we stay connected as citizens of a country with so many barriers between us. i am glad to live in a country that is solid and still going strong. There was a time when this country did not enjoy this amount of joining together. I hope that we will always remain strong together and undivided.
@Lupin3d (225)
• Philippines
23 Aug 10
That would really suck. I mean, being a big person in a small country is nice but being a big person in a small country that used to be big is different.
A country is successful only if its people is united under it. If this country splits up then that just means that the people in it do not have any loyalty towards their country and their culture. As such when they slipt up into smaller pieces, when the opportunity arises, they will yet again split up until they came to a point that they are so small and poor that they will be swalloed upon by other stronger countries.
@rappeter13 (8608)
• Romania
23 Aug 10
But if this division of the country is not because of the people they live in, it is decided by others and the country would have nothing to do to stop it? If this would happen against the will of the countries population? How would you feel then?
@BigTips (304)
• China
24 Aug 10
To be honest, if my country is really divided in many pieces, I can't determine how I would do.
One country means an ideal place where gives me a chance to enjoy a better life. If this situation happens someday, I will feel confused, depressed and annoyed because I may lose my mother tongue, my culture and my house, etc. Of course, I will try my best to avoid this bad situation.
After having reading your discussion, I got a little worried about the future of my country, although it is next to impossible to be divided into several parts.
@soulsshine (488)
• Bangladesh
24 Aug 10
I wish you will never face this situation. This is really bad and I even can't imagine it. I heard from my dad who was a freedom fighter. He said it feels like...you have just your body but your soul is in prison....when a person can't speak, can't express how he is feeling, can't show is joys and sorrow and deliver is opinion I think its worst than hell.
@rappeter13 (8608)
• Romania
24 Aug 10
Imagine that this really happened. It is about Hungary, which lost three quarters of its territories after First World War, and not because we lost it in fight, it is because of a treaty which was based on false documents and many lies, as they admitted after a few decades. Can you imagine how it is like? To live on the ground of your ancestors and not to be really home? You said it right, it is a disaster, but we can't do anything about it. This was a decision of the great powers of the world, and we are a small nation compared to them.